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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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reply to Jerm

Re: Problem MATH

said by Jerm:

So lets get this straight:

For rough math sake, say $50/month for 300GB

At overage rates $10GBx300 = $3000!

So they are saying once we hit 300GB data is worth 60X more?!!!

Yeah, that math doesn't make sense.. that's wireless data prices and crazy for wireline.. I thought the idea was $10 for every 50 additional gb...

Nevertheless, if you're on a plan that pays more than $100 a month for internet there should be NO, ZERO, ZILCH, ZIPPO caps..that would obviously be business class afforability wise, if not in QOS.. and 100 - 150 megabit tier-- currently AFAIK, the 50 megabit tier with Comcast is close to the $100 mark.. which is as I suspected, price collusion with Verizon.. and utter GREED!

tanzam75

join:2012-07-19

said by tmc8080:

Nevertheless, if you're on a plan that pays more than $100 a month for internet there should be NO, ZERO, ZILCH, ZIPPO caps..that would obviously be business class afforability wise, if not in QOS.. and 100 - 150 megabit tier-- currently AFAIK, the 50 megabit tier with Comcast is close to the $100 mark.. which is as I suspected, price collusion with Verizon.. and utter GREED!

Unrealistic.

Metro Ethernet runs in the $1000 per month range. Nobody cares if you max out the line for every second of every day for the full month, because you've paid for that dedicated capacity.

Clearly, then, $100 per month business-class service depends on some degree of statistical multiplexing. You simply cannot max out the line without impacting other customers on the same node.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY

said by tanzam75:

Clearly, then, $100 per month business-class service depends on some degree of statistical multiplexing. You simply cannot max out the line without impacting other customers on the same node.

Well, presumably the higher price of the service would fund infrastructure upgrades to allow them to offer a lower contention ratio than they otherwise could. Business class service can also be prioritized over residential service during times of congestion. I'm not sure if Comcast does this but I know my provider (Frontier) does.

Another consideration is that most businesses care more about latency than they do about sustained transfer rates. They need webpages to load snappily, VoIP to work, VPNs to work, RDP to work, etc, etc. Online backups are about the only thing a typical business would need sustained data transfer speeds for, but even that isn't really a consideration, most online backups are incremental, and they can be scheduled to occur during off-peak times. Additionally, many businesses would care more about the upstream than the downstream, they need it for road warriors and the like. Torrent kiddies notwithstanding, the upstream side of the equation is underutilized in most ISP networks, so the contention ratio is less of a concern there.

My employer shares a connection with 55-60 employees; in the last four weeks we've used 78.21GB down and 26.55GB up. Our 95th percentile is 1.09mbit/s, meaning that 95% of the time we were using less bandwidth than that. Most employers would be even lower on the downstream, we've got classrooms that do a fair amount of video streaming, whereas most business entities really have no need for that.