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Name Game
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reply to OZO

Re: Google Apps dropping support for IE8

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said by OZO:

Well, good...

1. I'm impatiently waiting for the time, when browsers will start updating their versions couple of times per month. That will be real fun

2. At the moment I'm browsing the Internet on WXP computer with hosts file containing:
127.0.0.1 ajax.googleapis.com
So, I guess respect is mutual

cool..that is a great page to block..I don't block it because it's ..Mac people had that problem when..

"Looks like if you have this error you downloaded Parallels from torrent, and added to hosts file one line containing ajax.googleapis.com.
So go to terminal and type:
sudo nano /etc/hosts

inside the editor find for the line
127.0.0.1 ajax.googleapis.com

and remove it or comment it out."

ajax.googleapis.com is a CDN repository for the popular jquery javascript functionality plus others that modern websites utilise.
If you block this then you will stop some website's functioning as it was designed to work.

For websites..

Both Google and Microsoft host several different versions of jQuery and other JavaScript frameworks. It saves you from having to download and store the jQuery framework, but it has a much bigger advantage: Because the file comes from a common URL that other websites may use as well, chances are that when people reaches your website and their browser requests the jQuery framework, it may already be in the cache, because another website is using the exact same version and file. Besides that, most CDN's will make sure that once a user requests a file from it, it's served from the server closest to them, so your European users won't have to get the file all the way from the US and so on.

You can use jQuery from a CDN just like you would do with the downloaded version, only the URL changes. For instance, to include jQuery 1.5.1 from Google, you would write the following:
»www.jquery-tutorial.net/introduc···started/

jQuery
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JQuery

3 reasons why you should let Google host jQuery for you

»encosia.com/3-reasons-why-you-sh···for-you/
»encosia.com/do-you-know-about-th···feature/
»developers.google.com/speed/libraries/

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Wait for there corporate clients to threaten to leave Google docs and Google will be changing there mind. Most corporations are still using XP and IE 8 is the latest version that runs on XP.

Google is nuts if they thing they can force customers to upgrade when even MS hasn't been able to get most companies to upgrade and you can bet if they haven't gone to windows 7 they will not be going to windows 8.

This time there policy isn't in sink with the real world especially corporations.

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said by Name Game:

3 reasons why you should let Google host jQuery for you

And I have my million reasons to block that host:
1. JavaScript from that host makes tracking users easier
...

And, so far, blocking that host working well with all web sites, that I want to visit, including this forum too, BTW.
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Name Game
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Yer Funny..now if you said jQuery was your concern because a site might use it to find out what browser you are using etc. I would understand since your privacy concerns are well known..but blocking google site that hosts the stuff is just fud since you and I both know ways to stop sites from from tracking..and it sure would not be plunking that in a host file.
It just slows down the load and other things in many browsers.
All web site do not even use it from that place..so it can't as you say 'work for all sites".

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said by Name Game:

It just slows down the load and other things in many browsers.

Really? I'm sure, it's just an opposite. Putting mentioned earlier host name in hosts file speeds up browsing because browser saves time on downloading JQuery library and it doesn't run those scripts on background. Second, to know which particular browser user uses to browse web site there is no need to run JavaScript. That info is part of the header, provided with every request it sends. Third, if you and I both know that we have to stop tracking our web browsing habits by data collecting services, like Google, we also know, that one of the well known and simple ways is to put offending site into the hosts file. That's exactly what and why I do it -- to protect myself from Google, tracking what I'm doing on the Internet. And finally fourth, I said putting the site into my hosts file works for me for all sites I want to visit, not for all sites as you've mentioned. It's a slight, but nevertheless important difference, don't you think?.

BBR site uses JQuery for the sole purpose of tracking its users. If JQuery is blocked here it will not brake any important function on this site, even one. But Google (and you, mentioned in your post the importance of JQuery it in bold) still suggest everyone to use it anyway...
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Name Game
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The protecting yourself from google is the fud. and your saved time thing is negligible ...beside the fact certain website and pages are going to be slow as molasses without it on some form elements you are screwed.

»encosia.com/dont-let-jquerys-doc···ou-down/

»web.enavu.com/daily-tip/disablin···-jquery/

You better start doing some more blocking

The jQuery library is a single JavaScript file, containing all of its common DOM, event, effects, and Ajax functions. It can be included within a web page by linking to a local copy, or to one of the many copies available from public servers. jQuery has a CDN sponsored by Media Temple[10] (previously at Amazon[11]). Google [12] and Microsoft[13] host it as well.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JQuery

might even be some of the reasons Mele20 has a hard time making a page display correctly beside the font and dpi thing.

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Yes well luckily gmail works FINE on IE6


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reply to OZO
I dont have that blocked Name Game and i still get a 404 error on ajax.googleapis.com (Nothing good comes from this anyway (Just tracking stuff,etc))
Expand your moderator at work


Name Game
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News for you..everyone will get a 404 on ajax.googleapis.com..has nothing to do with blocking it serves up stuff..and not a website you can access with your browser. it is even out with https.


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Re: Google Apps dropping support for IE8

said by lorennerol:

Between the lines:

If you are still on Windows XP, you can no longer access Google Apps with Internet Explorer.

Well, I'm not still on XP (not by choice), and I don't use IE - but I also don't use Google Apps. So no great loss.

I'm pretty sure I'm still the customer, and I'm not about to be dictated to by software companies. They can just get over themselves.


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Well I can't get here from there

If you look you'll see my IE 5.0 install only supported 40-bit encryption. Although I had the 128-bit pack I'd forgotten to install it. It now supports 128-bit

Party like it's 1999

BTW DSLR Secure Login won't work but I was able to login via standard. Woot!
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Yes saw the 40 and smiled..glad you be uptodate..now if we can just get mozzila to work. I'll pass up the goober apps.


Name Game
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said by Dude111:

Yes well luckily gmail works FINE on IE6

IE6 is still not out in the cold..you can still do Real Time Web Communication using Animated GIFs as Transport Google Apps not required.
GifSockets

»github.com/videlalvaro/gifsockets

The real time tech that was missing during the '90s .com BOOM
ht tp://vimeo.com/49447841?pg=embed&sec=49447841

vimeo.com/49447841

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Re: Google Apps dropping support for IE8

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said by Name Game:

..now if we can just get mozzila to work. I'll pass up the goober apps.

Well I have Netscape 4.08 (16-bit) in the same WfWG 3.11 VM but it blows up/hangs on many sites
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Why does LogMeIn works so much better on IE than Google Chrome? The mouse cursor skips and stutters a lot while IE is just smooth - its like the mouse is local.

(I know the answer)


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Surprise you would even use it with Chrome. How do you have it set up? Last time I looked Logmein does not work with safari, firefox needed a plugin..
and for chrome you do this

»www.fixya.com/support/r8308768-i···e_chrome

The google chrome plugin is still long overdue ???
»community.logmein.com/t5/Central···-p/59360

»help.logmein.com/SelfServiceRend···0DGAhCAO
This still happens...
»community.logmein.com/t5/Pro/Log···-p/51304

Chrme has it's own desktop extension for Remote in Beta..still need to have someone on the other end so it will not yet compete with logmein..but they plan to have it function with just one user.
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We do not currently support Chrome fully, it currently works with Flash, Java, or HTML (not HTML 5). For the time being if you are on a Windows-based PC, I personally suggest you use this extension for Chrome:

»chrome.google.com/webstore/detai···ponefajn

This will allow our ActiveX plugin (what we use in IE) to work in Chrome, and provide the full Pro featureset. I use it myself on my Chrome browsers, and it works great.
Sean Keough
Product Specialist, LogMeIn Support

»community.logmein.com/t5/Pro/Log···4/page/2

And that surprised me.ActiveX is a proprietary Microsoft technology. Don't expect to see it in Chrome.
Google Chrome doesn't naturally support ActiveX.
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Dude111
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Active-X can be very dangerous.. I hope everyone running IE has it blocked so ONLY THE CONTROLS THEY HAVE can run!! (Flash,WMP embeds,etc)


Name Game
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In your IE6 do you have all of the ActiveX set for "enable" or "prompt" ?

»betanews.com/2006/03/01/microsof···-change/

reply to Name Game

Re: Google Apps dropping support for IE8

Yeah LogMeIn Free works fine in Chrome... just not as snappy/smooth as IE's ActiveX. I don't even have Pro subscription.

I just went there like normally and it's working. Same with IE after installing ActiveX plugin.

ActiveX is great, Dude111. It's not like Java doesn't have many security holes. =)

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said by RazzyLogMeIn :

Yeah LogMeIn Free works fine in Chrome... just not as snappy/smooth as IE's ActiveX. I don't even have Pro subscription.

I just went there like normally and it's working. Same with IE after installing ActiveX plugin.

ActiveX is great, Dude111. It's not like Java doesn't have many security holes. =)

But my question is..for Chrome when you use it..how are you using it..with ActiveX, Flash or Java ? To do it with ActiveX which I suggest..it works faster if you do the change.

see here and follow the link as the Rep from Logmein suggests.

"We do not currently support Chrome fully, it currently works with Flash, Java, or HTML (not HTML 5). For the time being if you are on a Windows-based PC, I personally suggest you use this extension for Chrome:

»chrome.google.com/webstore/detai···ponefajn

This will allow our ActiveX plugin (what we use in IE) to work in Chrome, and provide the full Pro featureset. I use it myself on my Chrome browsers, and it works great."
Sean Keough
Product Specialist, LogMeIn Support

»help.logmein.com/selfserviceknow···0DGAxCAO

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said by StuartMW:

said by silentlooker:

I am still using ie 5.0 and happy with it.

On Windows 3.1?

I have IE 5.x (16-bit) in a Win3.1 VM.

IIRC IE5 worked in W2K.
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quote:
In your IE6 do you have all of the ActiveX set for "enable" or "prompt" ?
NO....... DISABLE!!

Active-X can be very dangerous.... Years ago i didnt have things set like this and someone gave me a site (I used to always have scripts enabled as well) and the site wanted to install an active-x!!!! (I COULD NOT GET OUT OF IT.... CLICKING NO WOULD JUST POPUP THE BOX AGAIN) -- I tried 30 times at least....... I FINALLY PRESSED CTRL-ALT-DEL AND ENDED TASK ON MY BROWSER!!

Now i have scripting disabled (Unless i need it) as well as active-x 99% locked out (The local controls i have can run (Embedded WMP,flash,etc)) .. I also have USERDATA PERSISTANCE and ALLOW PASTE OPERATIONS VIA SCRIPT disabled....


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good going stay safe buddie.


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Thank you buddy

said by Sindows 7 :
They wanna cripple you if you use a older version.
Yes it makes it seem like THEY ARE IN BED WITH MICROSOFT and trying to force ppl to use the latest trash where they can spy on ppl the most/easiest!!

said by Name Game :
Hey Dude..youtubbie claims I am running IE7 but it's really IE6.. How about you ?
Nothing it just displays the page buddy.... (I went to that same page you did (BTW: THATS NOT ME ))


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said by Dude111:

Thank you buddy

said by Sindows 7 :
They wanna cripple you if you use a older version.
Yes it makes it seem like THEY ARE IN BED WITH MICROSOFT and trying to force ppl to use the latest trash where they can spy on ppl the most/easiest...

Or lazy to make their stuff work on older stuff.
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Re: Google Apps dropping support for IE8

It wasn't the Active X plugin for sure. I may try it later or I just keep using IE10 =)


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Big deal....

I like Google Apps a lot. I use Firefox, Chrome, and IE. All three work well. I don't use IE8 anymore at all. IE9 works just fine. If you have to run an older version of IE, then install Chrome or Firefox. Problem solved.
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