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BellBoy
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30-pin to Lightning availability

Why would this adapter not be available on launch day? The ship date is "October" in the Apple store.

Perhaps they will have existing stock in the stores for launch day...?

Daemon
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It was available but they ran out of stock.



BellBoy
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Hmm...makes sense I suppose, but I would have thought that they'd have buttloads of this thing ready to go. You might buy ONE iPhone, but more than likely you would want more than one adapter.
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Paul928

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reply to BellBoy
From what I've heard this adapter does charging ONLY, and will not carry audio or video, any truth to that?



Thinkdiff
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said by Paul928:

From what I've heard this adapter does charging ONLY, and will not carry audio or video, any truth to that?

Completely untrue.

Edit: I should clarify - untrue that it's charging only. It does not support video, but it does support audio and (presumably) remote control functions:
quote:
This adapter lets you connect devices with a Lightning connector to many of your 30-pin accessories.* Support for analog audio output, USB audio, as well as syncing and charging. Video output not supported.

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dellsweig
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Third party adapters on amazon

»9to5mac.com/2012/09/16/first-3rd···-for-18/
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Thinkdiff
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I would be very suspicious of those adapters as that first one doesn't really have any room for the required ADCs, serial to USB converters, etc. most likely only good for charging and USB syncing.
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dellsweig
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said by Thinkdiff:

I would be very suspicious of those adapters as that first one doesn't really have any room for the required ADCs, serial to USB converters, etc. most likely only good for charging and USB syncing.

I have used the cheap chinese knock-off adapters (usb to 30 pin, Thunderbold, etc, etc) with NO (ZERO) issues.

I have already ordered some of these
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Jackarino
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reply to BellBoy
I'm going to wait for some reviews on the 3rd party adapters before I order some



Thinkdiff
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reply to dellsweig
This is different. The adapter needs to have active components inside that convert the all digital lightning port to the mostly analog 30-pin connector signals. Just giving everybody a fair warning.
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dellsweig
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said by Thinkdiff:

This is different. The adapter needs to have active components inside that convert the all digital lightning port to the mostly analog 30-pin connector signals. Just giving everybody a fair warning.

The 'knock off' thunderbolt adapter I use on my Imac (paid 5$) does digital conversion - why would that be an issue??

how do you say - reverse engineering??
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Thinkdiff
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The thunderbolt cable does have active components, but its not really the same. It's also a documented Intel standard.

The pictures of that cable don't even look to have enough space to fit everything (I don't think apple made their adapter huge as a design choice).

Like I said... Just giving everybody fair warning as they may not know exactly what goes into this adapter. Most people think its just a box of wires that Apple hughly overcharges for. If you want to take the risk of ordering a cable that nobody has even seen before, go ahead. It may work great. It may not. That's my point.
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Kearnstd
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reply to BellBoy
just think it cant be long now for Monster to release an adapter and cable for 5x what Apple charges and then try to convince people that they used some kind of Silvertainium Alloy that sends signals faster than the speed of light to reduce latency in your audio.
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BellBoy
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said by dellsweig:

Third party adapters on amazon

»9to5mac.com/2012/09/16/first-3rd···-for-18/

This article doesn't bode well for 3rd party Lightning adapters: »www.engadget.com/2012/09/25/appl···nnector/
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Nezmo
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said by BellBoy:

said by dellsweig:

Third party adapters on amazon

»9to5mac.com/2012/09/16/first-3rd···-for-18/

This article doesn't bode well for 3rd party Lightning adapters: »www.engadget.com/2012/09/25/appl···nnector/

Just another reason for me to avoid the 5.
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Michail
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reply to BellBoy
The iPhone 5 (being already a tad awkward tall) is going to look silly tall in a doc, propped up on top of one of these large adapters.

As ubiquitous as the 30 pin connection has become it's a shame there isn't a more affordable solution. I'd be okay with an inexpensive charge only variety. Wifi and Bluetooth can handle the data anyway.

It's going to take years, if at all, before we have the level of market saturation that the old connector had.



ptrowski
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said by Nezmo:

said by BellBoy:

said by dellsweig:

Third party adapters on amazon

»9to5mac.com/2012/09/16/first-3rd···-for-18/

This article doesn't bode well for 3rd party Lightning adapters: »www.engadget.com/2012/09/25/appl···nnector/

Just another reason for me to avoid the 5.

Yup. Ridiculous.
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norbert26

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reply to Nezmo

said by Nezmo:

said by BellBoy:

said by dellsweig:

Third party adapters on amazon

»9to5mac.com/2012/09/16/first-3rd···-for-18/

This article doesn't bode well for 3rd party Lightning adapters: »www.engadget.com/2012/09/25/appl···nnector/

Just another reason for me to avoid the 5.

the iPhone would be fine to a person that will just use the supplied out of the box cable and had no legacy 30 pin docks or the like. Those of us squatting on older 4's and who have 30 pin docks may be better off waiting for the market to have 3rd party docks that use the new connector. Trying to use the lightning to 30 pin adopter on a legacy dock will mean another piece to fiddle with which will be a PITA when docking and undocking and not be very stable either.


dellsweig
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said by ptrowski:

Yup. Ridiculous.

Got my IP5 just now - you wont ay you will avoid it once you hold it.. It is a pretty awsome piece of engineering and design work.

WELL worth the hassles of upgrading some cables.
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ptrowski
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It may be, but spending another $30 a piece on 4 adapters raises the price to $520 to start, it's just not worth it. I will wait and see what happens.


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