dslreports logo
site
 
    All Forums Hot Topics Gallery
spc

spacer




how-to block ads


Search Topic:
uniqs
26935
share rss forum feed


SpankMeHard
Premium
join:2009-06-21
Buellton, CA

[DISH] How does Dish Network Internet work?

How exactly does Dish network Internet work? Is it a special dish set-up that downloads and uploads thru the dish to the satellite? Or, do they partner with someone and provide Internet thru the cable coax in the house or thru a DSL setup over the telco copper?

I hear nothing but bad about satellite internet and I want to avoid it if that's how Dish does it.



Hayward
K A R - 1 2 0 C
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Key West, FL
kudos:1

1 edit

First of all you are right sat internet sucks.

That is not what DISH does but does provide alternate service options via your EXISTING internet connection (Like SLING and DISH Online), not they provide.

The internet service Dish sells is repackaged DSL not saatelite.
--



guyver01
In Brightest Day

join:2001-01-04
Littleton, CO
reply to SpankMeHard

Click for full size
Dish actually provides satellite internet via Hughesnet, which is a division of Echostar... Dish's parent company


Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Germantown, OH
kudos:2
reply to SpankMeHard

It depends on where you live. In my area, they partner with ATT to offer U-Verse for internet access.



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to guyver01

Did DirecTV own Hughes Net at one point? I remember Hughes made receivers before for them. Plus I see tons of Hughes Net commercials on DirecTV. Never saw so many when I had cable.



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

2 recommendations

reply to SpankMeHard

Anyone who has options for internet like cable or DSL needs to steer clear of satellite.



Steve Mehs
Gun Control Is Using A Steady Hand
Premium
join:2005-07-16
kudos:1

1 recommendation

reply to cypherstream

There is a lot to it, but basically the opposite, Hughes owned DirecTV.

DirecTV was originally owned by Hughes Electronics. Hughes Electronics was a subsidiary of General Motors that was made up of a merger between Hughes Aircraft and Delco Electronics. There were a handful of divisions Hughes Electronics was broken into and two of them were Hughes Network Systems (HNS) and Hughes Space Communication. HNS is the division that manufactured the DirecTV receivers back in the old days. Hughes Electronics was a money loser for GM, they wanted to spit DirecTV from the rest of the company. In the early 2000s Dish Network made a bid to buy DirecTV, but the DOJ blocked it. DirecTV was eventually sold to News Corp, who offloaded it to Liberty Media, who after some stock buys out and other things, made DirecTV their own company.

That all pertained to the TV side of the business, the satellite internet service that started out it’s life known as DirecPC , remained being owned by Hughes Communications, which was purchased by Echostar, last year, the former parent company of Dish Network, before Dish was spun off. DirecPC, later was called DirecWay, when two way satellite internet became available using the service. In the beginning, your downstream was handled via satellite, but you needed a phone line and dial up connection for upstream. After DirecTV was sold to News Corp, the name of the service changed from DirecWay to Hughes Net. At one point you could have got the ‘DirecDuo’ dish, which featured two LNBs in one physical housing. One looking at the 101 west orbital location for TV, and one looking at whatever satellite the internet came off of, 95 degrees maybe, I can’t remember now.
--
For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.


sharkyyoung
Premium
join:2012-03-15
Reno, NV
reply to Hayward

said by Hayward:

First of all you are right sat internet sucks.

That is not what DISH does but does provide alternate service options via your EXISTING internet connection (Like SLING and DISH Online), not they provide.

The internet service Dish sells is repackaged DSL not saatelite.

Dish internet is satellite and will need a seperate dish the one on the ISP news has to do with the Echostar 17 satellite. Echosatr owns both Dish and Hughes.


Hayward
K A R - 1 2 0 C
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Key West, FL
kudos:1

said by sharkyyoung:

Dish internet is satellite and will need a seperate dish the one on the ISP news has to do with the Echostar 17 satellite. Echosatr owns both Dish and Hughes.

So in reality it is HughesNet You can also buy independently.

Where Sat internet is not required, DISH also resells DSL, here it is ATT.
--


sharkyyoung
Premium
join:2012-03-15
Reno, NV

said by Hayward:

said by sharkyyoung:

Dish internet is satellite and will need a seperate dish the one on the ISP news has to do with the Echostar 17 satellite. Echosatr owns both Dish and Hughes.

So in reality it is HughesNet You can also buy independently.

Where Sat internet is not required, DISH also resells DSL, here it is ATT.

Yep Hughesnet, thanks for the info on Dish & AT&T, I can get them but 5GB a month just won't cut it, so satellite for everything.


Gavin5

join:2012-10-03
canada
reply to SpankMeHard

I did not use it yet, but i am interested to use this network. I hope that i will get nice service from them.


joedit

join:2001-11-29
Marietta, GA
reply to 88615298

You Wrote >>Anyone who has options for internet like cable or DSL needs to steer clear of satellite.

Can you tell me why?

tHX



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

1 recommendation

said by joedit:

You Wrote >>Anyone who has options for internet like cable or DSL needs to steer clear of satellite.

Can you tell me why?

tHX

Well it's pricier typically slower and has much lower caps.

For example I have charter cable internet . It 30 Mbps $55 month and has a 250 GB monthly cap.

For around the same monthly cost with Hughesnet and Wildblue you'd get able to get 10-15 Mbps( supposedly ) and have a 10 GB monthly cap. Just 1 hour of Netflix in HD can use 2.3 GB.

In fact the highest cap you can get with Hugesnet is 20 GB( with 20 bonus GB between 2 AM and 8 AM ) That's $110 a month. With Wildblue it's 25 GB for $140 a month but there is no cap between 12 AM and 5 AM. If you go over your cap for the rest of the month you are throttled to dial-up speeds.

Also there is this thing called latency which is how long it takes a signal to go to the website you want to go and get a signal back. With satellite internet since it has to go to space and back, latency will never be lower than 500 ms. Most of the time it's 2-3 times that. 500 ms is half a second, which may not seem long, but if you're doing something that is time sensitive like online gaming well that makes that useless.

So why would one deal with all that when one could get DSL or cable internet? I'd rather have 6 Mbps DSL with at&t and it's 150 GB cap than put up with satellite even if it was technically faster.

MrIcehouse

join:2006-02-07
Saint Petersburg, FL
reply to joedit

My cousin has Hughesnet, it is VERY slow, she has no choice, she lives in the middle of nowhere. If there are other options go with them. I had to drive 15 miles to a hotel parking lot in the winter to get my work email when I was visiting her.


iowaboy
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fairfield, IA
Reviews:
·Windstream
·WildBlue
reply to SpankMeHard

In my area I have a very bad dsl line that I am fighting to get fixed and even when it did work somewhat correctly it is very slow. So the wife and I did have Excede Sat internet installed so we could at least have a decent internet speeds. We get 23 Mbps down and 3 Mbps upload and it goes through its own dish that is installed on the roof. I have only needed to call tech support once but they did have a tech onsite within 2 days to correct the issue. We do have a cap of 10 gigs a month which we have met once, otherwise we stay below the cap. We are not ones who download a lot unless I stay up past midnight and then we can download as mush as we want without it counting toward our allowed 10 gig cap. As I said we went with the sat internet for the speed since we are on the edge of town and a quarter mile from Fiber and Cable so we are stuck with either Sat or phone company dsl and they do not want to maintain the lines for it. (national company that has bought out many telephone companies and then collect the money and not fix anything)


scottct1

join:2002-01-28
Newington, CT
reply to MrIcehouse

If its slow then he has an older system, you should have him check into upgrading to the Gen 4 service.


MrIcehouse

join:2006-02-07
Saint Petersburg, FL

said by scottct1:

If its slow then he has an older system, you should have him check into upgrading to the Gen 4 service.

What she has is all that she can get where she lives, she barely gets cell phone signal. I'm talking out in the sticks, they had to cut down 3 big trees to to get a sat signal.


Ganesh

@photoninfotech.com

Then we cant do any thing