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PaulGo

join:2005-01-29
Gaithersburg, MD
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: [DTA] What DTAs is Comcast acquiring that are brand new

The HD DTA's should allow viewing of all HD channels except premiums channels such as HBO, Starz, Encore and Showtime.

From the Comcast HD DTA guide:
"A uDTA (like the one in this
kit) will allow you to receive the
channels you currently have
in an all-digital format. It will
not display On Demand
programming."



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4

Unless something has changed with the embedded security waiver that Comcast received for the current SD-DTAs (and renewed for the HD-DTAs: »www.lightreading.com/document.as···d=215351 ), I didn't think the HD-DTAs would be able to use the stronger "conditional access" encryption scheme used in full STBs, only the weaker "privacy mode" one that is used for the Digital Starter tier SD and HD channels.

The fact that that in that statement it says "in an all-digital format" sounds to me like the channels they are talking about are lower-tier ones currently being provided in analog.



PaulGo

join:2005-01-29
Gaithersburg, MD

It's possible that either Comcast got a waiver or they are changing the encryption on all but the premium channels, but according to my sources at Comcast you will have the ability to get all but the pay channels.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4

Wow, that would be great then, as there are a few Digital Preferred channels I like to get on my DTAs right now. And if they include the Rovi DTA program guide, that would even better. Then I'd swap out some one of my current (SD) ones, that I pay $1.99/mo for, for one of those.

It would be nice if there is someone on this forum that's involved in the field trial that could let us know about all this for sure.



gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
Philadelphia, PA
kudos:8

When is this new HD DTA going to be available in the Philadelphia Area?

And will I be able to trade in my 2 old free DTA's for the HD ones? And will they still be free?


rody_44
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA

I doubt it. Free goes away with about anything now. I just upgraded my package and away went the free dtas.b They are 1.99 now. The hd ones will probably end up costing more anyway.


dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL

said by rody_44:

I doubt it. Free goes away with about anything now. I just upgraded my package and away went the free dtas.b They are 1.99 now.

Well a couple months ago, when I upgraded from limited basic to X3 play, my (2) FREE DTA's remained FREE even after the upgrade. Maybe you should check on that & try to get them back down to FREE...


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4
reply to gate1975mlm

said by gate1975mlm:

When is this new HD DTA going to be available in the Philadelphia Area?

Well, according to that recent CED Magazine article (»www.cedmagazine.com/news/2012/08···loyments ):
"... with plans to have them more broadly deployed in customers homes later this year." but We havent actually announced the date when paying subscribers will start getting HD DTAs."

From a post back in April by Comcast insider "J Jefferson3" (»Re: [DTA] Motorola's High Definition Digital Transport Adapter) it sounded like Comcast is waiting for the FCC to lift the prohibition on encrypting the Limited Basic tier of digital channels (which appears to be imminent: »www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···_Ban.php) before releasing the HD-DTAs. In that post he also said "This decision only affects [the] Freedom Region because they were to be the first markets for the HD-DTAs" so it seems our area may be the first to see them.

said by gate1975mlm:

And will I be able to trade in my 2 old free DTA's for the HD ones? And will they still be free?

What Comcast's policy will be on this is not clear yet, but I think if you try to trade in older SD-DTAs for the new HD ones, they will probably lose their grandfathered "first 2 DTAs are free" status.

As for the cost, I think the HD-DTAs may still be priced at $1.99/mo., as I think they are supposed to be the only DTAs that will then be provided and also as a concession to the FCC for lifting the basic tier encryption ban.


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4

An excellent article on DTAs on the CED Magazine site today:

CPE: Digital transport adapters expand their horizons
DTAs’ role in the cable operator environment becomes more prominent

By Mike Robuck, CED Magazine - September 28, 2012
»www.cedmagazine.com/articles/201···horizons



owlyn
Premium,MVM
join:2004-06-05
Newtown, PA
reply to rody_44

That was probably a mistake. They are grandfathered in.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4
reply to telcodad

From an article today on the Light Reading Cable site about Humax targeting some new products for Comcast (»www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable ):

But rather than targeting Comcast's business for video gateways, Humax appears to be focused on the lower end of the market, placing early efforts on IP-only HD client boxes and a new line of QAM-based HD Digital Terminal Adapter (DTA) devices. (See Comcast HD-DTAs Reach the FCC: »www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable)


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4
reply to telcodad

From:
Cable-Tec Expo: Evolution Digital Screws In Wall-Plate DTA
Digital-to-Analog Device Aimed a Multidwelling Units

By Todd Spangler, Multichannel News - October 19, 2012
»www.multichannel.com/cable-opera···a/139894

Evolution Digital said operators including Comcast are planning to deploy its HD wall-plate digital terminal adapter ...
:
Comcast will deploy the Liberty devices in 2013, according to Smith. Comcast spokeswoman Jenni Moyer declined to confirm its rollout of the wall-plate DTAs.


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4
reply to PaulGo

said by PaulGo:

It's possible that either Comcast got a waiver or they are changing the encryption on all but the premium channels, but according to my sources at Comcast you will have the ability to get all but the pay channels.

Well, it looks like your sources are right, for in an item in today's cable news round-up article on the Light Reading Cable site today (»www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable) it says:
It's understood that a new breed of HD-DTAs will include more flexible security mechanisms that will allow for the support of higher-level tiers, including premium cable TV services.

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

with comcasts limited premium HD it's not that good of idea unless they kill off SD channels and use the room to add back the cut HD.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:4
reply to telcodad

It's reported that Comcast has finally started to deploy HD-DTAs now.

See my post about it in another thread: »Re: [DTA] Are DTA boxes with HD coming out any time soon?



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to Joe12345678

why are you always beating on Comcast? Have you left for directv or dish yet?


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

I know a few people that have dealt with them on the past and have switched I left them years ago for an other system.


dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
reply to mikedz4

said by mikedz4:

why are you always beating on Comcast? Have you left for directv or dish yet?

pot meet kettle...


Caddyroger
Premium
join:2001-06-11
To the west
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by dishrich:

said by mikedz4:

why are you always beating on Comcast? Have you left for directv or dish yet?

pot meet kettle...

I lost count on how many times he said if I could I would get Directv.
--
Caddy