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IowaCowboy
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Springfield, MA
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Caps are not an issue for me

I subscribe to cable TV so caps are not an issue for me.

Comcast is a cable company, and their core product is cable television and high speed Internet and phone is a side business for them. Their Internet would be like 4-5 times more expensive without the pay tv revenues as maintaining cable plants and customer service is expensive.

If it was not for customer backlash or regulatory pressure, they would require that you purchase cable tv in order to subscribe to Internet (like Verizon requiring a landline to get DSL).

The could allow competing ISPs access to their network and still be profitable because they could charge those ISPs for access to their network (like CLECs are charged by the ILEC for network access).
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I wish I still lived in Iowa; Everything there from rent and groceries to Cable TV is much cheaper in Iowa (especially with an overbuilder in town).


aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
Profit margins would still be much higher for internet than for TV


revenue neut

@windomnet.com
reply to IowaCowboy
Cable TV is nobody's core business. The programmers take all the revenue from cable TV. Internet is where it is at. Phoen is a great revenue maker also.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to IowaCowboy
Do you think their core product will continue to be video? I have my doubts.

»gigaom.com/broadband/the-cable-i···d-right/


Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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reply to revenue neut
said by revenue neut :

Cable TV is nobody's core business. The programmers take all the revenue from cable TV. Internet is where it is at. Phoen is a great revenue maker also.

Link? Source?
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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to IowaCowboy
you do have to buy cable tv in order to subscribe to Internet.

Or it that that limited basic + Internet is about the same price as Internet on it's own.

Now why not just a basic line fee and then cut the price or Internet and cable tv.

But make the line fee be on it's own.


IowaCowboy
Iowa native
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Springfield, MA
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Maybe to protect cable TV revenue, they could base the caps on what tv package the customer subscribes to (such as low caps for Internet only subscribers to no caps for customers subscribing to two or more premium channels).

I still think the only good way to get quality TV programming is to subscribe to cable. Streaming services still don't give you access to live tv such as the Weather Channel, Fox News, local newscasts, etc. I also love reality shows such as Cops.

When you have a node full of people streaming the same content that is offered by the cable provider, they are consuming network resources for those wanting to use other applications such as gaming, web surfing, etc. Shift the streaming users to the content offered by the cableco, that frees up network resources for HSI users that use other applications as the cableco already has network resources allocated to hd programming in the form of their cable offerings. That is why Comcast has every right to manage their networks. Cable TV is a regulated monopoly and streaming services such as Netflix undercut cable TV as they don't have to meet the same standards as cable tv but they consume their resources.

I subscribe to cable tv and always will.
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I wish I still lived in Iowa; Everything there from rent and groceries to Cable TV is much cheaper in Iowa (especially with an overbuilder in town).

covfam

join:2012-03-05
Black River Falls, WI
reply to Joe12345678
er no i dont have charter cable tv, just charter internet with thier 30 meg tier, i wasnt tied or required to get anything else, in fact i have direct tv for my video needs (charter tv sux bad) perhaps comcast has different requirements,

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
reply to IowaCowboy
Unfortunately, I don't think it's their core product anymore. It's more the side business with phone and Internet being the main draw. Certainly Comcast provides better Internet than cable.

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
reply to revenue neut
DirecTV. Dish. "Cable" is their core business.


IowaCowboy
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1 recommendation

reply to jjeffeory
Many times it is cheaper to bundle tv, Internet, and phone. In our area, Comcast has triple play bundles starting at prices not much more than standalone Internet and they give you faster speeds with bundling. I like having a home phone (try telling a 911 dispatcher your exact location when you are in the middle of an armed home invasion or have a child that is not breathing). And in our area, if you dial 911 on a cell phone, it goes to the state police dispatch in Northampton (MA) and you have to tell them the city or town where the emergency is and they transfer you to the local dispatch AND you have to give them the exact location. With a landline, it goes to the local dispatch AND they have your exact location on their screen. When someone is in cardiac arrest, every second counts.
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I wish I still lived in Iowa; Everything there from rent and groceries to Cable TV is much cheaper in Iowa (especially with an overbuilder in town).

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to aaronwt
Not if the revenue from internet was to be relied upon to maintain and expand the HFC plant.

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

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reply to IowaCowboy
" quality TV programming is to subscribe to cable. Streaming services still don't give you access to live tv such as the Weather Channel, Fox News, local newscasts,"

Quality, Weather Channel and Fox News in the same paragraph.

Coming from a cable rip off shill.

I was stuck in bed sick last Saturday watching the Military Channel on Comcast. 5 times in a row the same shit commercial for Star Furniture, some effeminate guys being towed to buy crap furniture, some weight loss crap and hair regeneration garbage over and over again every 10 min for 5 min.

I turned the TV off. Yeah, real quality programming chock full of idiotic adds.

Maybe I should watch the Weather Channel, much better. Paying $130 / month for the cable and $100 for Internet access to be bombarded with the garbage adds is real "value".

As far as "regulated monopoly", IowaCowboy, read up on regulatory capture.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to IowaCowboy
said by IowaCowboy:

try telling a 911 dispatcher your exact location when you are in the middle of an armed home invasion

There's a solution to home invasions that includes the numbers '911', but it has an M and a 1 in front of them.

Joking aside, you make a great case for having a landline. My POTS line is a lousy $27/mo after taxes and fees, or 90 cents a day, why would I give up that peace of mind? I call 911, they have my location instantly. Even in areas with wireless E911 they don't necessarily get an accurate location, and it may take time for the location to resolve.

tanzam75

join:2012-07-19
reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall:

Link? Source?

See page 50 of the Comcast 10-K: »files.shareholder.com/downloads/···t10K.pdf

2011 Residential video revenue: $8.7 billion
2011 Programming costs: $7.9 billion


IowaCowboy
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reply to WernerSchutz
Here the commercials are for ambulance chasing lawyers, bad credit approved car loans, and free government funded cell phones for the welfare beneficiaries. These are during local newscasts and it's not like I am watching Jerry Springer (trailer trash cheating on their wives) or Maury Povich (teen moms seeking paternity tests to see who is the baby daddy). The trash on those shows are more entertaining that the lowlife products (such as guaranteed phone service for people who've been shut off for non payment and the same bad credit approved car loans aired during the evening news) advertised during those trash shows.

Recently, they have been playing political ad after political ad and they will play a Scott Brown ad and the next ad is for Elizabeth Warren. I have not seen any Romney-Ryan ads as Democrats always win Massachusetts like Republicans always win Alabama in presidential election. I am sure the ads regarding the ballot questions will be flooding the airwaves as we get closer to election day. As for my political views, we'll save that for the red room.
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I wish I still lived in Iowa; Everything there from rent and groceries to Cable TV is much cheaper in Iowa (especially with an overbuilder in town).