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deke40
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1700 Miles On A Tank

One bad ass truck.

»www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/09/···features



Vamp
5c077
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yeah and only cost you about $650-700 to fill up.
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Lurch77
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reply to deke40

That would be the perfect truck for transport companies. Like those people you see on the Shipping Wars TV show. A lot of those out there could really use the range and capacity this thing has.

I don't see the difference in paying $650-700 to fill it up once, or $100-$150 each to fill up several times. If you're concerned about that, then you're probably not the kind of person that really needs this truck. This truck is not something for the everyday Joe anymore than a class 8 big rig is.



hortnut
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reply to deke40

And what is the premium cost of hauling around the 170 gallons of diesel over a standard 35 gallon tank on a fairly stock Ram 2500 ST?

1190 vs 245 pounds, assuming diesel weighs around 7 pounds? That is just extra dead weight.

Just curious............



Lurch77
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This is the Ram 5500, not the 2500. People interested in the 5500 are not cross shopping the 2500 unless they seriously don't need the capability of the 5500. The 5500 comes with a 52 gallon tank and a 22 gallon auxiliary tank to begin with. So the additional tank is 96 gallons. An extra 700lbs on a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.



hortnut
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I know that, was just pulling numbers.

When I was still in the Nursery Business, I hauled my own stock to my customers up and down the I5 corridor from Frisco to Canada. Every extra pound of dead weight was money out of my pocket in extra fuel.

My trailers were custom built light, yet very strong. I pulled with a F350 Diesel with the 7.3l. I did have 2 tanks, but cannot recall the total gallons. It did not matter, as I fueled at card-lock stations, of which there were many to choose from. My total weight many times was over 18k. Of course all the hardware was capable of more.

At the height of the busy season I leased and drove Freight Trucks [not u-hauls], equipped for the job at hand.


itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

said by hortnut:

Every extra pound of dead weight was money out of my pocket in extra fuel.

It's not THAT Bad - every 1000 lbs = roughly .1 mpg lost. So .2 mpg for a ton.


nunya
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reply to deke40

I think they might be underestimating the mileage. My un-chipped 5.9 got 19 MPG on the highway, about 16 loaded.
Guys are reporting the new 6.7 gets around 17-18 MPG.
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boogi man

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Jacksonville, FL
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on that note i've heard that guys are getting way way better mileage and power with chips intake and exhaust mods without hurting reliability much if any.

friend has an 03 duramax that with intake exhaust and chip is seeing 30mpg in town no load.

another guy i know has an 04? powerstroke that is making huge power and getting 40+ no load mpg. the powerstroke is heavily modified though.
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I think they might be over exaggerating things a little (men over exaggerating?). Chipped, I could get 22-23 MPG on the econ setting on the highway. You definitely lose some power though. If you are cruising across Kansas or Texas, that doesn't matter much.
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Lurch77
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reply to boogi man

I wouldn't put too much faith in what they are telling you. You can get some excellent mileage with a diesel, but they are telling you they are nearly tripling it with some modifications? Physics makes that unlikely.



hortnut
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reply to itguy05

Forgot to add in the cost of product. 1000 pounds of extra plants moved equal $600 to $800 added to the invoice.



Lurch77
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You're forgetting that time is money for many people too. Not stopping every 300-400 miles is money saved. Of course that is assuming their bladder will hold out.


Beezel

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said by Lurch77:

You're forgetting that time is money for many people too. Not stopping every 300-400 miles is money saved. Of course that is assuming their bladder will hold out.

Thats why you carry bottles.


boogi man

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reply to Lurch77

the ford guy yeah im sure you're probably right. the one with the chevy on the other hand i've driven it myself and watched the numbers. it's real. again these are the 3/4 ton trucks with no load.

in either case once you get clear of the epa there is better power and mileage available in nearly every single piston powered engine out there.
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Jackarino
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reply to deke40

I would only get 2miles in that thing before it ran out of gas the way i drive lol



aurgathor

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reply to deke40

With a 170 gallon tank I'd expect to get a little more than that.

Expand your moderator at work


Irun Man
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reply to Lurch77

Re: 1700 Miles On A Tank

said by Lurch77:

...a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.

Won't a CDL be required to pilot this thing, A la International CXT?
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CylonRed
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reply to deke40

Technically.............. it would be 3 fill ups:

quote:
and an oversized mid-mounted gas tank that combines with a second frame-mounted tank and a third auxiliary tank in the bed for a maximum capacity of 170 gallons


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Kearnstd
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would that be three fill points or do multiple tank pickups just have you turn a valve/flip a switch?

I know some Ford super-duty trucks at some model point offered dual tanks that used a switch.
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CylonRed
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I know someone that had 2 tanks and 2 fill nozzels thought it was awhile back. However - in this case it does sound like there are 3 distinct (or at least 2 distinct tanks). Even if they just flipped a switch to use - they would unlikely be feed by one fill tube.
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Kearnstd
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Ahh okay so like a semi with two tanks then. Each one has to be filled on its own but is drawn on as a single or a switched supply.
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Lurch77
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reply to Irun Man

said by Irun Man:

said by Lurch77:

...a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.

Won't a CDL be required to pilot this thing, A la International CXT?

No. 26,001lb is the magic number. »cdltrainingconsultants.com/Who_N···DL_.html

Needing one for the CXT is a myth too. International was smart enough to keep the rating just below the federal level requiring a CDL. It's GVWR is 25,999. Driving the truck itself does not require one. If you pull a trailer over 10,000lbs then you will need one.


Anonymous_
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reply to Lurch77

said by Lurch77:

This is the Ram 5500, not the 2500. People interested in the 5500 are not cross shopping the 2500 unless they seriously don't need the capability of the 5500. The 5500 comes with a 52 gallon tank and a 22 gallon auxiliary tank to begin with. So the additional tank is 96 gallons. An extra 700lbs on a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.

Wrong with a basic Drivers license it's 26,000 GVWR


CylonRed
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said by Anonymous_:

said by Lurch77:

This is the Ram 5500, not the 2500. People interested in the 5500 are not cross shopping the 2500 unless they seriously don't need the capability of the 5500. The 5500 comes with a 52 gallon tank and a 22 gallon auxiliary tank to begin with. So the additional tank is 96 gallons. An extra 700lbs on a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.

Wrong with a basic Drivers license it's 26,000 GVWR

Ummm - you quoted the wrong post... Lurch already stated the correct weight for a CDL in the post DIRECTLY above your post.

In the one you quoted - Lurch was only stating the extra weight of the extra tank. It has nothing to do with the CDL weight.
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Beezel

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reply to Anonymous_

said by Anonymous_:

said by Lurch77:

This is the Ram 5500, not the 2500. People interested in the 5500 are not cross shopping the 2500 unless they seriously don't need the capability of the 5500. The 5500 comes with a 52 gallon tank and a 22 gallon auxiliary tank to begin with. So the additional tank is 96 gallons. An extra 700lbs on a truck that has a GVWR of 19500lbs.

Wrong with a basic Drivers license it's 26,000 GVWR

With a 26,000 GVWR no cdl. 26,000 GVRW pulling a trailer 10,001 pounds = CDL