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McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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reply to Immer

Re: [Raiding] Pride and Ego (Nathrezim) hits level 25!!

Network dropped at work today, but I've got one of my son about a year ago when he was 8 months old wearing my headset and a tshirt with a boombox on it. He looks like a dj, it's hilarious.

And I've gotta get some dailies/heroics/scenarios done before the raid. I need ~150 vp for my neck piece.


Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:8
reply to Jobbie
Yes... all 3 of us are healing while we master the mechanics. If the boss goes down, awesome, if we just need more dps, we'll decide if it should be sanct or me based on the individual fight.


Pollux7777

join:2010-02-16
Saint Paul, MN
Those headphones look comfy. My headphones are total garbage. They are literally being held together by duct tape, and the mic doesnt work anymore.


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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Mine are similar to those and they make my ears soooo hot


Venom1

join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA
reply to Jobbie
we are on tanks, swapping beacons, immer (now holy) will be on raid heals. as far as cleansing debuffs/ rescue healing that guy that never moves out of fire... we'll see who has more haste lol.
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Nick D
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join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

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reply to Venom1
FYI duders, appears to be Jasper, Cobalt, Jade this week.

So buddies moving away from blue things, but the slow from cobalt is probably not that relevant because there's no purple on the ground.


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
kudos:2
reply to Venom1
Should be easy this week. As long as we don't have jasper chains again.


Immer
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Evans, GA
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reply to McBrain
said by McBrain:

Mine are similar to those and they make my ears soooo hot

They can. I usually keep my right ear exposed so I can hear if one of the kids wakes up, so it mitigates the overheating nicely.


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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reply to Venom1
Looks like LFR reqs were reduced. My buddy is at home and is ilvl 459/461 and apparently can queue for first part of LFR.

I'll post if he texts me something different.


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
Premium
join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5
460 is the new requirement.


Venom1

join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA
reply to Immer
do you alternate the exposed ear? if not how does the the other ear cool off?

I understand the concept of "one leg out of the covers" but thats to keep the body cool, not necessarily both feet.

Edit: My ears are usually burning up from all the WoW ladies talking about my mad skillz.

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Nick D
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join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA
reply to McBrain
said by McBrain:

Should be easy this week. As long as we don't have jasper chains again.

You do have Jasper Chains again.

But those are the easiest ones to manage. Find your buddy and stand on his head.

I need to see how bad Cobalt is (in terms of explosion) but that's easy enough to just run away from until you have controlled explosions during Cobalt Petrification.

No purple means you're not constantly moving around the entire room.


McBrain
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join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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said by Nick D:

No purple means you're not constantly moving around the entire room.

Arcane Mages approve of this message.
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McBrain#1430

Name's Ash...Housewares.


Nick D
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join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA
Scorch more.


Immer
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reply to Nick D
said by Nick D:

I need to see how bad Cobalt is (in terms of explosion) but that's easy enough to just run away from until you have controlled explosions during Cobalt Petrification.

The cobalt ice traps are brutal. If everyone avoids them, they stay up and don't despawn. So you have to eat them, but that does dmg, so you need to use personal CDs when you do.


Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
Dk should be able to eat 3.

Ginjer
Premium
join:2009-08-14
Honolulu, HI
said by Lothario:

Dk should be able to eat 3.

Zone and Shield if I am correct. That should eat up some damage.
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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
I'm the only DK in the raid - I can eat the ones close to me, and I did...but I can't be dragging the boss around, he can't get in proximity to the other bosses, and I can't risk getting my back to him. That would work with a DK dps I suppose.

Ginjer
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join:2009-08-14
Honolulu, HI
said by clawfury:

I'm the only DK in the raid..

That makes sense.
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McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
kudos:2
reply to Nick D
said by Nick D:

Scorch more.

lol @ Scorch.

Presence of Mind, ftw. I was over 60k in every attempt last night, and hit 64k on my 1 LFR kill. At the time, I believe 64k would have been top 2 Arcane Mage DPS in the US, according to WoL...I'm sure that number has increased over the course of the evening though.

But I need to learn Fire for that fight...Stupid European cheesing Fire Mages hit 179k on Stone Guard in LFR.
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McBrain#1430

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Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
reply to Ginjer
Icebound fortitude too with a quick death pact to heal back up.


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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I tried a shiesty little trick of letting one spawn on me, then Iceblocking to wait out the three second detonation timer...and that didn't work...it seemed like the timer didn't start until I came out of Iceblock, it sucked.

One concern I have is that the description in the dungeon journal says it does 340k damage in a 7 yard radius...I definitely didn't see it hitting that hard, even when I didn't have my Ice Barrier up (absorbs 85k). Also, is that damage split, or is it equal to everyone?
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Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
With all the self heals everyone has now it shouldn't be much of am issue.


McBrain
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Kalimdor
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Outside of my barrier, the only self heal I have is Rune of Power, which returns 1% of my max health per second, but I've gotta be standing in the rune for it to work.

One of the things I noticed is that we weren't coordinated enough when two people got chained. I think we should designate people to either move too their partner or stay still, so we don't have people running around all crazy.

Example, I am able to cover a lot of ground very quickly with blink, therefore if I get chained, it is more logical for me to move to my partner than for them to move to me. Muzzle can ghostwolf, the Hunters can disengage (not ideal, but you get the idea). The healers and melee dps should not run to their chain partners, they should stand their ground and let their counterpart come to them, Immer should be casting Leap of Faith on his chains partner. To piggyback off this, we should also designate what direction to move in when you and your partner have a cobalt mine planted under you. I personally move to the right for some reason, so my partner and I should be on the same page with this.

One more thing. Please, for the love of God, do not stand in melee range if you aren't hitting the boss with your sword or attached to a melee dps via a Jasper Chain. There is no reason for anyone other than clawfury, Tiermordius, and Furius(and his chain partner) to be in the boss's hitbox.

Set your range finder to /range 10 and try to keep your circle green until you get chained. When you get chained, you should have one dot in your circle, your chains partner. Period.

Once we can follow these pretty simple guidelines, get our "tank swaps" down, and pick up the DPS a little, we should be good to go.

That's just my 2 copper, if anyone has any response or further input, please voice your opinion. It's the only way we will loot those purple pixels. 10 quiet people won't kill raid bosses.
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McBrain#1430

Name's Ash...Housewares.


Immer
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reply to Lothario
said by Lothario:

With all the self heals everyone has now it shouldn't be much of am issue.

If that were the only dmg going out I would agree. There is a lot of AoE dmg in the fight... everyone has to be careful about the dmg they eat intentionally.

said by McBrain:

I tried a shiesty little trick of letting one spawn on me, then Iceblocking to wait out the three second detonation timer...and that didn't work...it seemed like the timer didn't start until I came out of Iceblock, it sucked.

One concern I have is that the description in the dungeon journal says it does 340k damage in a 7 yard radius...I definitely didn't see it hitting that hard, even when I didn't have my Ice Barrier up (absorbs 85k). Also, is that damage split, or is it equal to everyone?

It is a 3 sec. activation period (just like hunter traps, only a little longer). I saw the same thing in the dungeon journal and was very confused by the dmg. Usually it will say if the dmg is shared, but it doesn't. I'm starting to believe it is, though... We really should have tried staying in a tight group and just eating it for one round.

And yeah, I used leap of faith on muzz when he was clear across the room. the issue with chains isn't so much getting the 2 people together as much as it was keeping together as they avoided ground effects.

I'm going to be looking through WoL parses today to see where else we were falling short... well, when I can find breaks at work, that is.
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Immergruen (resto/boomie) on Nathrezim Server (US)
Agrende (discipline/holy); Esclavizado (blood/unholy)

Intelligence is no substitute for Character.


Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
reply to McBrain
btw Frost is #1 theoretical dps spec for mages.....


Venom1

join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA
reply to Venom1
We (immer sanc and tanks) had a pretty good conversation on how to handle tank swaps. Really, Tier and Frost talked about how to deal with it so they were on the same page, while me and immer were there for a sanity check.

With the "new" guild comp, we are learning more than just mechanics. We are learning each other's play styles. Of the ten raid spots, only 6 have raided together, and that was only at the end of Cata. This fight, as we've seen, is a tank swap fight. Last night was the first night Tier and Frost have tanked a progression fight together. As we get used to each other and communication improves, bosses will die, loots will be had, and once again WE will save Azeroth.

That's the way I see it.
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DarkLogix
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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reply to Lothario
I solo qued LFR (figured the first few weeks might have a larger number of good players than late DS runs did.

It was a full clear of the 3 bosses available in LFR.
For the first 2 I was top dps, (only by a little) and forgot about my rune on the 1st boss.

Annoyingly I used one of my charms on the 1st boss (forgetting that it didn't have anything for me (atleast in LFR)

then used a charm on the 2nd boss (I got a neck and chest (nether were clear upgrades)) The neck was lower ilvl then the VP one and the chest was the same ilvl but with a red socket instead of a blue, and I didn't feel like having to re-gem and enchant (though maybe I should have considered it more.)


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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reply to Lothario
I see that on Noxxic right now. (it's changed since last time I looked)

--t14 BiS--
Frost: 104577
Arcane: 102906
Fire: 101676

I reckon it all depends on what you're most comfortable with. I've never even looked at Frost, tbh. I think I'd fail miserably at it.

For this fight tonight I'm gonna stay Arcane and maybe swap out Frost Bomb for Living Bomb or Nether Tempest. I think Living Bomb would probably be the best dps in this particular scenario, I'll have to try and look something up to find out for sure.

Also, last night I ran a LFR with an Aff Lock that destroyed Stone Guard (soul swap will do that, I guess). He pulled ~90k, so I looked him up on the armory after we finished, and he had a 496 ilvl helm from the last boss in Heart of Fear...I thought that raid hadn't even been released yet, any idea on how he got it?

His name is Justus, Worgen Warlock, Proudmoore, Non Combat Pets is his guild.
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McBrain#1430

Name's Ash...Housewares.


Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
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Galleon, Salyis's Warband can drop it. Another reason we should be trying to take down these world bosses each week... especially with the gear being so restrictive.