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Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to jlivingood

Re: [Speed] My French Car Forum is Being Throttled - But Why?

said by jlivingood:

I noticed an email from their NOC last night so maybe that was due to your contact. We're investigating (and have been since this thread began).

Thank you - that is good to know.

Checkerboard

join:2012-09-19
Orinda, CA
reply to Imagnu

I'm with you, imagnu. Something has radically changed for the worse just 5 days ago, and like you, I wrote to tinet.net. However, all they said to me was that they didn't finad any issues with their network (see below) and sent me their tracert routing:

"After further investigation I do not find any issues on our network that would cause the packet loss that you have reported. The following is a copy of our trace route monitor to 85.165.110.194.

My traceroute [v0.69]
ams20-re0 (0.0.0.0)(tos=0x0 psize=64 bitpattern=0x00) Fri Sep 21 06:59:02 2012
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. schlund-gw.ip4.tinet.net 0.0% 291 6.8 10.4 6.7 60.5 8.4
2. te-4-1.bb-c.act.fra.de.oneandone 0.0% 291 21.0 13.4 6.7 73.4 10.9
3. te-1-3.bb-c.tp.kae.de.oneandone. 0.0% 291 28.0 27.6 23.7 139.4 10.5
4. ae-1.gw-dista-a.bap.rhr.de.onean 0.0% 291 13.1 18.0 9.8 386.6 30.6
5. vl-1991.gw-ps5.bap.rhr.de.oneand 0.0% 290 10.3 14.7 9.9 67.8 9.8
6. kundenserver.de 0.0% 290 9.7 15.9 9.6 155.5 18.0

So, what next? Let's hope JLivingood at Comcast in Philly can fix things... please!!!


Checkerboard

join:2012-09-19
Orinda, CA

And here it is, 2:40 p.m. PDT and the site ( »autodejavel.fr )won't load.... again. And this morning until at least lunchtime, it worked fine.



JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA

said by Checkerboard:

And here it is, 2:40 p.m. PDT and the site ( »autodejavel.fr )won't load.... again. And this morning until at least lunchtime, it worked fine.

It's not GREAT but it is working for me on comcast business class
$ wget http://autodejavel.fr/
--2012-09-21 14:51:54--  http://autodejavel.fr/
Resolving autodejavel.fr... 82.165.110.194
Connecting to autodejavel.fr|82.165.110.194|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html'
 
    [             <=>                       ] 49,526      9.66K/s   in 5.0s
 
2012-09-21 14:52:00 (9.66 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [49526]
 

5 seconds for web speed test site »www.webpagetest.org/result/120921_YB_KSF/

7 seconds from this one »tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/hAynXBH···javel.fr

low score from google »developers.google.com/speed/page···le=false

Seems OK to me.
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My place : »www.schettino.us

Checkerboard

join:2012-09-19
Orinda, CA

Yep - I agree John- it works for a bit and then stalls out. I am on it now, and it was normal, but now it's back into its crawl-speed. It only partially loads the section called "le Citrojournal," stalls, and then 30 seconds after, it fully loads.



tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Comcast

Read in depth the sites JohnInSJ See Profile has posted. The problem is the site design where it needs constant refreshes of many elements and right now some of them are failing to promptly update (could be the server or user demand)
As you note it changes at different times of day, but during the worse monments by the time the slow element is served the other elements need updating and the process starts again.
Lock your css, limit the refreshes, limit or cache the graphics and it runs pretty well for a site 8K miles away as the crow flies



Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to Checkerboard

My hosting company is Fasthosts.co.uk

Their site and many of my websites will not load again this evening.

Tracert

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Oengo>tracert fasthosts.co.uk

Tracing route to fasthosts.co.uk [213.171.195.48]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 312 ms 457 ms 573 ms 71.200.166.1
3 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms te-7-1-ur01.oceancity.md.bad.comcast.net [68.85.
134.137]
4 18 ms 16 ms 13 ms te-4-1-ur01.salisbury.md.bad.comcast.net [69.139
.174.198]
5 16 ms 11 ms 14 ms te-7-3-ur01.cambridge.md.bad.comcast.net [69.139
.174.210]
6 16 ms 21 ms 18 ms xe-13-0-1-0-ar04.capitolhghts.md.bad.comcast.net
[69.139.174.194]
7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms pos-5-7-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.90.85]
8 16 ms 18 ms 16 ms be-15-pe04.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.8
4.222]
9 19 ms 16 ms 20 ms xe-11-2-0.was10.ip4.tinet.net [173.241.131.61]
10 103 ms 102 ms 101 ms xe-4-1-0.ams20.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.180.137]
11 114 ms * * schlund-gw.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.75.94]
12 129 ms 128 ms 131 ms te-1-2.bb-c.the.lon.gb.oneandone.net [212.227.12
0.134]
13 137 ms 129 ms 127 ms te2-1.prt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk [88.208.255.57
]
14 134 ms 132 ms 127 ms po-96.prt0.fhdis.fasthosts.net.uk [88.208.255.97
]
15 129 ms * 318 ms 88.208.255.5
16 * 126 ms 126 ms server213-171-195-48.livedns.org.uk [213.171.195
.48]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Oengo>
______________________________

It sometimes loads and sometimes doesn't but it is very slow now at 6:32 pm est usa - even if the mail site loads when I try to log into my control panel it freezes at the username and password.



Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to Checkerboard

I also noticed with this tracert oneandone is also a shared route - maybe that is causing some of the hangup.



Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to Checkerboard

said by Checkerboard:

..and sent me their tracert routing:

"After further investigation I do not find any issues on our network that would cause the packet loss that you have reported. The following is a copy of our trace route monitor to 85.165.110.194.

My traceroute [v0.69]
ams20-re0 (0.0.0.0)(tos=0x0 psize=64 bitpattern=0x00) Fri Sep 21 06:59:02 2012
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. schlund-gw.ip4.tinet.net 0.0% 291 6.8 10.4 6.7 60.5 8.4
2. te-4-1.bb-c.act.fra.de.oneandone 0.0% 291 21.0 13.4 6.7 73.4 10.9
3. te-1-3.bb-c.tp.kae.de.oneandone. 0.0% 291 28.0 27.6 23.7 139.4 10.5
4. ae-1.gw-dista-a.bap.rhr.de.onean 0.0% 291 13.1 18.0 9.8 386.6 30.6
5. vl-1991.gw-ps5.bap.rhr.de.oneand 0.0% 290 10.3 14.7 9.9 67.8 9.8
6. kundenserver.de 0.0% 290 9.7 15.9 9.6 155.5 18.0

So, what next? Let's hope JLivingood at Comcast in Philly can fix things... please!!!

If you look closely at their tracert - they did the test at 6:59 am - and as you and I have been saying all along is that everything works fine from 3am - noon or 1pm - it is in the afternoon and evening that the real slowdown occurs. Oh well I can only hope it will get fixed soon.


Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to tshirt

I am currently designing a sample website for one of my clients - I haven't even optimised it yet as it is only a sample of a possible design and it got an 83 out of 100 on the google speed test

»developers.google.com/speed/page···le=false

and this evening it won't load at all or sometimes only loads the words - it is not a complete website but the front page slide show should still work - it is so intermittent.

»5.tophatz.com/



JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA

said by Imagnu :

I am currently designing a sample website for one of my clients - I haven't even optimised it yet as it is only a sample of a possible design and it got an 83 out of 100 on the google speed test

»developers.google.com/speed/page···le=false

and this evening it won't load at all or sometimes only loads the words - it is not a complete website but the front page slide show should still work - it is so intermittent.

»5.tophatz.com/

Yep currently dead - website is stalled

 
$ traceroute 5.tophatz.com
traceroute to 5.tophatz.com (88.208.252.204), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  70.89.67-118-BusName-smpls.sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (70.89.67.118)  0.437 ms  1.364 ms  1.689 ms
 2  73.71.192.1 (73.71.192.1)  12.080 ms  16.962 ms  33.777 ms
 3  te-0-0-0-0-ur14.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.85.190.213)  15.922 ms  17.057 ms  17.149 ms
 4  69.139.198.166 (69.139.198.166)  18.304 ms 69.139.198.158 (69.139.198.158)  19.265 ms 69.139.198.166 (69.139.198.166)  19.364 ms
 5  he-2-13-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.90.141)  29.367 ms  30.175 ms  30.266 ms
 6  pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.46)  22.599 ms  23.145 ms  22.404 ms
 7  pos-0-6-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.66)  23.613 ms  20.474 ms  17.314 ms
 8  xe-9-3-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (213.200.80.165)  22.236 ms  23.410 ms  23.164 ms
 9  xe-10-1-0.ams20.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.182.161)  175.665 ms xe-7-1-0.ams20.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.182.165)  185.983 ms  186.973 ms
10  schlund-gw.ip4.tinet.net (213.200.75.94)  203.166 ms  203.250 ms *
11  te-1-2.bb-c.the.lon.gb.oneandone.net (212.227.120.134)  202.524 ms  202.790 ms  202.888 ms
12  * te2-1.prt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk (88.208.255.57)  205.873 ms  204.811 ms
13  * * *
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My place : »www.schettino.us


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
reply to Checkerboard

Oh wow... speed to CA is bad even off comcast

»browsermob.com/free-website-perf···6f1cd65e

12 seconds isn't great
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My place : »www.schettino.us



Imagnu

@comcast.net

said by JohnInSJ:

Oh wow... speed to CA is bad even off comcast

»browsermob.com/free-website-perf···6f1cd65e

12 seconds isn't great

I have noticed that some of these speed tests wait until the entire page has pre-loaded through the last slide in the slide show - but the page appears loaded much earlier than that.

As I mentioned before - this site is under construction and not optimised yet - not worried about the speed - only the fact that nobody who uses comcast can view it or many of my websites during the afternoon or evening hours - while all of the rest of the world without comcast can see it no matter how long it loads.

And for the past 14 years I have not had any problems and suddenly for the past 6 days my sites don't load for people using comcast between the hours noon(ish) to midnight(ish) est


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
reply to Checkerboard

Sure, but I was noting how this showed even off comcast, latency to the US was very high, and much worse in CA. So whatever trickle of bandwidth is supposed to get allocated to comcast is likely fully consumed.
--
My place : »www.schettino.us



Imagnu

@comcast.net

said by JohnInSJ:

Sure, but I was noting how this showed even off comcast, latency to the US was very high, and much worse in CA. So whatever trickle of bandwidth is supposed to get allocated to comcast is likely fully consumed.

All I am saying is why has this only started 6 days ago and been fine for 14 years - yes I am sure all sites can be improved - but that does not answer my question about why now, and why only comcast - when my sites can be viewed anywhere else in the world on any other isp - and have worked great on comcast up until 6 days ago - nothing has changed with my sites - but suddenly they do not work in comcast.


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA

said by Imagnu :

said by JohnInSJ:

Sure, but I was noting how this showed even off comcast, latency to the US was very high, and much worse in CA. So whatever trickle of bandwidth is supposed to get allocated to comcast is likely fully consumed.

All I am saying is why has this only started 6 days ago and been fine for 14 years - yes I am sure all sites can be improved - but that does not answer my question about why now, and why only comcast - when my sites can be viewed anywhere else in the world on any other isp - and have worked great on comcast up until 6 days ago - nothing has changed with my sites - but suddenly they do not work in comcast.

You're missing my point. The peering agreement comcast has with tinet.net, or congestion on tinet.net itself is the issue. Either there is something that changed in the peering agreement, tinet.net is having issues, or there is something flooding that link (specifically across comcast and tinet.net) at night that didn't used to be there before.

I am not saying it has anything to do with your web design. Note how the latency from Ireland is 4 seconds (not going across the altantic via tinet.net) vs 2-3x slower for all US sites?
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My place : »www.schettino.us


Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to Imagnu

Sorry - I am not trying to be argumentative - I am just frustrated. I do appreciate all advice and coments - I understand some of my sites can be improved in their speed - but that still does not answer the question why the same one worked fine last week and is not working this week.

Something is different and it is not my websites. Once the thing that is different can be identified then maybe it can be fixed. I am just trying to find out what it is. Thanks again for everybody's coments and assistance. Megan



Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to JohnInSJ

said by JohnInSJ:

The peering agreement comcast has with tinet.net, or congestion on tinet.net itself is the issue. Either there is something that changed in the peering agreement, tinet.net is having issues, or there is something flooding that link (specifically across comcast and tinet.net) at night that didn't used to be there before.

Yes - I agree - maybe something like that - maybe something new using up most of the bandwidth - but how do we fix it?? Thanks


THZNDUP
Deorum Offensa Diis Curae
Premium
join:2003-09-18
Lard
kudos:2
reply to JohnInSJ

You're correct, I exit Comcast to the OP's site in San Jose/Great Oaks just as you do, but.......... I jump on Global Crossing to OneonOne Net/kundenserver.de. No problems the several times I've looked at it.

Going to imagnu's site, even Tinet is not bad until it gets to Amsterdam.........

Interesting that a French car site is hosted on German servers though........
--
one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything



JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
reply to Imagnu

said by Imagnu :

said by JohnInSJ:

The peering agreement comcast has with tinet.net, or congestion on tinet.net itself is the issue. Either there is something that changed in the peering agreement, tinet.net is having issues, or there is something flooding that link (specifically across comcast and tinet.net) at night that didn't used to be there before.

Yes - I agree - maybe something like that - maybe something new using up most of the bandwidth - but how do we fix it?? Thanks

We don't - that's up to comcast and tnet.net. All you can do is host your sites someplace with better peering agreements. Which I understand isn't an option for you. Comcast is aware of the issue
said by jlivingood:

I noticed an email from their NOC last night so maybe that was due to your contact. We're investigating (and have been since this thread began).

so hopefully some monitoring will turn up a problem/solution.
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My place : »www.schettino.us


Ripper
Premium
join:2002-02-07
West Palm Beach, FL
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to Checkerboard

Click for full size
Ping Plotter shows website server in Germany.Looks like massive packet loss once trace goes overseas.


Imagnu

@comcast.net
reply to jlivingood

said by jlivingood:

I noticed an email from their NOC last night so maybe that was due to your contact. We're investigating (and have been since this thread began).

jlivingood - This is the end of the 6th day with no improvement - is there a possible solution in the works or should I begin to move all of my websites to another server that is not affected by the comcast problem?

Thanks, Megan


NetFixer
From my cold dead hands
Premium
join:2004-06-24
The Boro
Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
·Comcast Business..
·Vonage
·Comcast

1 recommendation

said by Imagnu :

said by jlivingood:

I noticed an email from their NOC last night so maybe that was due to your contact. We're investigating (and have been since this thread began).

jlivingood - This is the end of the 6th day with no improvement - is there a possible solution in the works or should I begin to move all of my websites to another server that is not affected by the comcast problem?

Thanks, Megan

FWIW, even if the problem(s) you are experiencing are a "Comcast problem" (and I have seen no compelling evidence that either your problem or the OP's problem are a "Comcast problem"), the fact that you have hijacked this thread may very well have lessened your chances of getting a resolution. It is possible that jlivingood See Profile (who started out trying to help the OP), may not have even noticed that you are not just the OP (who started out as an anonymous poster) using a different anonymous name (that does happen in these forums). Sometimes when a different anonymous user hijacks a thread, those trying to help don't always notice that there are actually two separate subthreads being discussed (and the solution to both problems may or may not be the same).

Hint: If you want help, and don't want to create confusion, start your own thread to minimize the confusion factor.
--
We can never have enough of nature.
We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander.


Imagnu

@comcast.net

said by NetFixer:

... the fact that you have hijacked this thread may very well have lessened your chances of getting a resolution

I am so sorry I have been so frustrated by the problem and was so excited to find someone else (checkerboard) who was experiencing exactly the same problem I was - I honestly wasn't wasn't trying to hijack anything - I truly thought it was the same problem and it would help. My deepest appologies to everyone for any intrusion. I have decided that my best solution will be to move my websites to a different server. Please do not stop trying to find a solution for Checkerboard because of me - he can't move the french car forum - and I am sure there are other people out there who don't know why the sites they view suddenly got slow. Thanks and again I am sorry - Megan

devnuller

join:2006-06-10
Cambridge, MA
reply to Ripper

said by Ripper:

Ping Plotter shows website server in Germany.Looks like massive packet loss once trace goes overseas.

Looks like it gets through Comcast fine to GLBX and then starts having problems within GLBX before it hits oneandone.net at hop 9. (204.245.39.158 is owned by GLBX.)

It may be easier to get your hosting provider to address it with their ISP as they control the routing in this situation. Comcast can only inform GLBX there is a problem, but has little control to fix it.


linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
Reviews:
·TracFone Wireless
·CenturyLink
reply to Checkerboard

I am not on Comcast, I am in the US and the page loaded in less than 5 seconds. It is a rare ISP hat admits to any type of problem. They are like politicians; if their mouth moves its a lie.

iPad is not ISP dependent. My ISP installed new digital equipment and it periodically acts the same way. Let's look at your router. Which light is yellow, which is green? Are any lights blinking?

Unplug your router for 30 seconds Plug it back in and note the lights and what each is doing. On some no activity is wonderful and on others it is bad news. If it still does the same thing. Take the router off line, and check the modem. If it still slow reboot your modem. If you still can't download the page quickly......

1-) It is possible your modem, or router, or both, need to be replaced.
2-) It is possible there is a problem with the connection between your house and the first hop on Comcast.
3-) It is possible you need to move your webpage to a new host.
4-) It is also possible nothing is wrong. There could be a network issue beyond Comcast control -- and they are re-routing around it.

When it comes to electronics, nothing set in stone.
--
Mac: No windows, No Gates, Apple inside



JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA

said by linicx:

I am not on Comcast, I am in the US and the page loaded in less than 5 seconds. It is a rare ISP hat admits to any type of problem. They are like politicians; if their mouth moves its a lie.

You do realize that once the packet leaves your ISP, and travels on the internet, your ISP has lost control. You do know that various nets are inter-connected (um, Inter-net) and at those connection points there are agreements for how much data can pass in each direction in exchange for money, right?

Comcast doesn't have any control (other than the peering agreement) over other people's networks on the internet. The reported speed issues here are detected by ALL comcast customers during peak times because the network between comcast and these European sites is either having a capacity issue, or the peering between it and comcast is overcapacity. It's not the CPE.
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State

Um... 4-) It is also possible nothing is wrong. There could be a network issue beyond Comcast control
--
Mac: No windows, No Gates, Apple inside



JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA

said by linicx:

Um... 4-) It is also possible nothing is wrong. There could be a network issue beyond Comcast control

Yep... thats what I am saying... its a problem upstream of comcast. Resetting his modem isn't going to fix the problem, since I can reproduce it on my business class comcast account when he sees it.
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NetFixer
From my cold dead hands
Premium
join:2004-06-24
The Boro
Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
·Comcast Business..
·Vonage
·Comcast

1 edit
reply to Imagnu

said by Imagnu :

said by NetFixer:

... the fact that you have hijacked this thread may very well have lessened your chances of getting a resolution

I am so sorry I have been so frustrated by the problem and was so excited to find someone else (checkerboard) who was experiencing exactly the same problem I was - I honestly wasn't wasn't trying to hijack anything - I truly thought it was the same problem and it would help. My deepest appologies to everyone for any intrusion. I have decided that my best solution will be to move my websites to a different server. Please do not stop trying to find a solution for Checkerboard because of me - he can't move the french car forum - and I am sure there are other people out there who don't know why the sites they view suddenly got slow. Thanks and again I am sorry - Megan

There is nothing to apologize for; my suggestion that you need your own thread was for your benefit; it was not a rebuke.

I was just trying to explain that just because you seem to have a similar symptom to the OP does not mean that you have "exactly the same problem", and therefore, a fix for one poster's problem may not be a fix for all posters with similar symptoms.

It is just always a good idea to start your own thread when requesting help. This is especially so when you and the OP post anonymously, since it is not that unusual for anonymous posters to change their "identity" during the life of a thread, and someone trying to help may just assume that similar (but different) symptoms are being reported by the same poster.

FWIW, the reason that I keep emphasizing that you and the OP may not have the "exactly the same problem", is illustrated in the traceroute results shown below:


C:\>tracert autodejavel.fr
 
Tracing route to autodejavel.fr [82.165.110.194]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ap2.dcs-net [192.168.9.1]
  2    37 ms    28 ms    29 ms  67.177.172.1
  3    10 ms    10 ms     9 ms  xe-4-0-0-0-sur01.murfreesboro.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.50.125]
  4    11 ms     9 ms     9 ms  xe-3-1-2-0-ar03.nashville.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.174.17]
  5    12 ms    52 ms    10 ms  ae-3-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.86.148.69]
  6    38 ms    21 ms    22 ms  68.86.90.181
  7    20 ms    18 ms    19 ms  64.209.107.53
  8     *      144 ms   135 ms  204.245.39.158
  9   163 ms   165 ms   164 ms  te-3-3.bb-d.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.9]
 10   249 ms     *      141 ms  ae-2.gw-dista-a.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.122.11]
 11   192 ms     *      171 ms  vl-1991.gw-ps5.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [217.160.127.70]
 12   151 ms   147 ms   148 ms  kundenserver.de [82.165.110.194]
 
Trace complete.
 
C:\>tracert fasthosts.co.uk
 
Tracing route to fasthosts.co.uk [213.171.195.48]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ap2.dcs-net [192.168.9.1]
  2    39 ms    45 ms    32 ms  67.177.172.1
  3    56 ms    10 ms     9 ms  xe-4-0-0-0-sur01.murfreesboro.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.50.125]
  4    61 ms    11 ms     9 ms  xe-11-3-0-0-sur02.murfreesboro.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.174.22]
  5    23 ms    20 ms    10 ms  xe-5-1-3-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.86.176.105]
  6    54 ms    19 ms    20 ms  68.86.90.89
  7    21 ms    19 ms    18 ms  64.209.107.53
  8   142 ms   143 ms   145 ms  204.245.39.158
  9   150 ms   147 ms   148 ms  te-2-1.bb-d.ba.slo.gb.oneandone.net [212.227.120.21]
 10   204 ms     *      154 ms  te2-8-11.prt0.fhdis.fasthosts.net.uk [88.208.255.189]
 11   201 ms   156 ms   204 ms  88.208.255.5
 12     *        *      159 ms  server213-171-195-48.livedns.org.uk [213.171.195.48]
 
Trace complete.
 
C:\>tracert 5.tophatz.com
 
Tracing route to 5.tophatz.com [88.208.252.204]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ap2.dcs-net [192.168.9.1]
  2    20 ms    29 ms     9 ms  67.177.172.1
  3    21 ms     9 ms    10 ms  xe-4-0-0-0-sur01.murfreesboro.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.50.125]
  4    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  xe-11-3-0-0-sur02.murfreesboro.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.174.22]
  5    10 ms    10 ms    11 ms  xe-2-1-1-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.86.176.53]
  6    23 ms    20 ms    21 ms  68.86.90.89
  7    19 ms    18 ms    19 ms  64.209.97.13
  8   175 ms   211 ms     *     204.245.39.158
  9   148 ms     *      200 ms  te-2-1.bb-d.ba.slo.gb.oneandone.net [212.227.120.21]
 10   158 ms   158 ms     *     te2-8-11.prt0.fhdis.fasthosts.net.uk [88.208.255.189]
 11   154 ms   158 ms   161 ms  88.208.255.5
 12     *      157 ms   158 ms  88.208.252.204
 
Trace complete.
 
 


In the above traceroutes to the OP's problematic site, and to your problematic sites, I do not see any hops using your favorite culprit (tinet.net). I do see a common transatlantic hop using Level 3 (64.209.97.13 or 64.209.107.53 and 204.245.39.158), and all of the sites go through oneandone.net routers from my Comcast connection, but traceroutes from other locations will be different.
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