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Re: [Speed] My French Car Forum is Being Throttled - But Why?Hi Folks, and thanks very much for all the input... I've learned quite a few things from all of your posts! Although my original post was "anonymous," I promptly enrolled afterwards, and wanted to originally, but honestly couldn't quickly find out how to register.
This really is a dilemma for any Comcast subscriber who has trouble accessing certain European web sites. And also a catch-22 for us; unless Comcast decides to apply its know-how and leverage, we affected subscribers are but lone voices in the wilderness.
So when Imagnu entreats "J Livingood" from Comcast (as I have) to please see if it can be rectifed, I see it as both understandable and proper. Right now it's Sunday afternoon and I'd love to interact on the forum at autodejavel.fr; I have some photos from a car show to upload, but the site is again intermittently slow, up, and down.
So again, please - Comcast please fix this! Thanks again, Peter a/k/a Checkerboard |
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said by NetFixer:... but traceroutes from other locations will be different. Indeed. From Sonic.net, LLC in San José, California: Tracing route to autodejavel.fr [82.165.110.194]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.42.1
2 25 ms 26 ms 28 ms 173-228-7-1.dsl.static.sonic.net [173.228.7.1]
3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms gig1-4.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net [70.36.243.13]
4 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 0.xe-7-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net [69.12.211.5]
5 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 0.xe-6-1-0.gw2.200p-sf.sonic.net [64.142.0.109]
6 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms as0.gw.200p-sf.sonic.net [208.106.96.249]
7 25 ms 63 ms 26 ms xe-10-1-0.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net [4.53.134.9]
8 27 ms 26 ms 25 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.140.154]
9 26 ms 26 ms 38 ms ae-72-72.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.153.22]
10 26 ms 25 ms 28 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.153.5]
11 95 ms 94 ms 94 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.135.186]
12 93 ms 93 ms 95 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.141.22]
13 93 ms 93 ms 93 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.135.253]
14 101 ms 99 ms 99 ms ae-3-3.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.132.89]
15 178 ms 179 ms 179 ms ae-42-42.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.137.53]
16 187 ms 178 ms 178 ms ae-57-222.csw2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.161.58]
17 177 ms 176 ms 177 ms ae-2-52.edge5.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.139.235]
18 182 ms 182 ms 183 ms 11-INTERNET.edge5.Paris1.Level3.net [212.73.200.54]
19 189 ms 190 ms 189 ms te-2-4.bb-d.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.42]
20 188 ms 188 ms 187 ms ae-1.gw-dista-a.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.121.171]
21 188 ms 188 ms 188 ms vl-1991.gw-ps5.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [217.160.127.70]
22 188 ms 188 ms 187 ms kundenserver.de [82.165.110.194]
Trace complete.
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NetFixerFrom My Cold Dead Hands Premium Member join:2004-06-24 The Boro Netgear CM500 Pace 5268AC TRENDnet TEW-829DRU
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said by Checkerboard21:So when Imagnu entreats "J Livingood" from Comcast (as I have) to please see if it can be rectifed, I see it as both understandable and proper. Right now it's Sunday afternoon and I'd love to interact on the forum at autodejavel.fr; I have some photos from a car show to upload, but the site is again intermittently slow, up, and down.
So again, please - Comcast please fix this! Thanks again, Peter a/k/a Checkerboard OTOH, trying to steer jlivingood toward an interface problem with tinet.net may possibly delay a resolution, since the tinet.net interface is not used by all Comcast connections to either your hosting service in Germany, or Imaginu's hosting service in the UK. Since this thread started, I have accessed both your problematic site, and Imaginu's problematic site, and (as you have pointed out) sometimes an http connection works reasonably well, and sometimes an http session hangs busy for a very long time. But even when the http connection is hung, the traceroute transit times to both sites (from my location) are essentially unchanged. After trying the same thing from both an AT&T and an Earthlink connection, my experience is that the extreme delays/hangs do appear to be Comcast connection specific. But with the raw transit times being unchanged during "good" and "bad" connection attempts, a resolution is probably not going to be easy or fast. |
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said by devnuller:Looks like it gets through Comcast fine to GLBX and then starts having problems within GLBX before it hits oneandone.net at hop 9. (204.245.39.158 is owned by GLBX.) GLBX ???
# # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: # "n 204.245.39.158" # # Use "?" to get help. # # # The following results may also be obtained via: # »whois.arin.net/rest/nets ··· &ext=net ref2 # NetRange: 204.245.0.0 - 204.245.63.255 CIDR: 204.245.0.0/18 OriginAS: AS3549 NetName: LVLT-ORG-204-245 NetHandle: NET-204-245-0-0-1 Parent: NET-204-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation RegDate: 1995-02-03 Updated: 2012-03-02 Ref: »whois.arin.net/rest/net/ ··· 45-0-0-1 OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc. OrgId: LVLT Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd. City: Broomfield StateProv: CO PostalCode: 80021 Country: US RegDate: 1998-05-22 Updated: 2012-01-30 Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE Ref: »whois.arin.net/rest/org/LVLT OrgTechHandle: IPADD5-ARIN OrgTechName: ipaddressing OrgTechPhone: +1-877-453-8353 OrgTechEmail: ipaddressing@level3.com OrgTechRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ ··· DD5-ARIN OrgNOCHandle: NOCSU27-ARIN OrgNOCName: NOC Support OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-453-8353 OrgNOCEmail: noc.coreip@level3.com OrgNOCRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ ··· U27-ARIN OrgAbuseHandle: APL8-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse POC LVLT OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-453-8353 OrgAbuseEmail: security@level3.com OrgAbuseRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ ··· PL8-ARIN # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: »www.arin.net/whois_tou.html #
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2012-Sep-23 7:28 pm
Global Crossing is owned by Level 3 now, sort of how Worldcom/GTE became Verizon. |
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We're keeping an eye on this and doing what we can - this is largely off net and thus out of our control. But that's not unusual - so we'll keep trying and working with interconnect partners. |
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Thanks, "jlivingood!" The site's hung right now.
I wouldn't complain so much if it were the norm... but after 9 months of delay-free, reliable connections, I'd hate for this problem to become the "new normal..." |
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I've seen oneandone use TINET, GLBX and Level 3 networks in this thread from traceroute examples through different providers. The common problem areas is GLBX and it appears to be congestion/loss on GLBX overseas links. Oneandone can correct this through BGP techniques or by not using GLBX. While NetFixer has stated "extreme delays/hangs do appear to be Comcast connection specific", this problem would be noticed on any ISP that Oneandone is reaching via GLBX. Here is a graphic for oneandone's transit connectivity » bgp.he.net/AS8560#_graph4 |
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2012-Sep-23 10:44 pm
said by devnuller:The common problem areas is GLBX and it appears to be congestion/loss on GLBX overseas links. Oneandone can correct this through BGP techniques or by not using GLBX. 9 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms ge4-1-1g.ar2.dca3.gblx.net [64.215.195.177] 10 155 ms 150 ms 157 ms 204.245.39.158 --Level 3 Communications, Inc. 11 117 ms 117 ms 117 ms te-3-3.bb-d.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120] Yes, but that doesn't seem very likely, and it could just be high latency links, since we don't know the method of connection (not satellite I hope). |
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2012-Sep-23 11:33 pm
The response time numbers look like what is to be expected for a trans-Atlantic connection. And I'm not certain but if they use MPLS then we are actually looking at the other end of the interface at this interconnect point. |
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said by sk1939:9 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms ge4-1-1g.ar2.dca3.gblx.net [64.215.195.177] 10 155 ms 150 ms 157 ms 204.245.39.158 --Level 3 Communications, Inc. 11 117 ms 117 ms 117 ms te-3-3.bb-d.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120] Just to clarify, 204.245.39.158 is part of the Global Crossing (GLBX) network. Level 3 did acquire GLBX and apparently has been changing the whois IP databases; however, the router, links, etc are still part of AS3529(GLBX) and not AS3356(Level 3). |
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OK.. eight days and counting. C'mon Comcast, please!! Multiple European sites are down due to interconnecton issues... this needs to be resolved. |
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Blank page for about 3 seconds and *poof* it all appeared at the same time, |
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It loaded up relatively quickly for me tonight, 4-5 seconds. |
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said by Checkerboard21:OK.. eight days and counting. C'mon Comcast, please!! Multiple European sites are down due to interconnecton issues... this needs to be resolved. I am not sure if your problem has been included (I hope it is) but if you take a look at these two threads - it seems that one problem may have been identified and they are looking into a way to fix it - shouldn't be too long now. » [Speed] Bottleneck in European connection» [Speed] Slow & stalled UK & EU websites for the past week on Com |
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I am still experiencing severe problems - and now, with Air France ( » airfrance.fr ) as well- cannot access the website. It's only 5:42 p.m. PDT and I've come to expect I won't have access until tomoorow morning. Day Nine, Comcast... |
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airfrance loads immediately for me. |
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Almost like clockwork. It's 2:23 p.m., and te connection is slowing down to almost a trickle to » autodejavel.frTen days running... please, jlivingood and Comcast... restore my connection to Europe! Thanks, Peter |
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I just wanted to say that the evening European slowdown problems seem to have been fixed. Thank you all very much, and thank you to Comcast for addressing this for us (especially "jlivingood")! Peter, from the Bay Area |
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Yeah it loads fast now,trace looks much better also. |
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