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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:56:46 EDT

vp71inet posted : Man I love this thread.

Harsh but truer words I have never heard spoken
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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:56:55 EDT

meeeeeeeeee posted :

Interesting that this particular lesson does not seem to persist through history. Some mistakes can be learned and avoided, some are destined to repeat themselves. This, unfortunately, is a repeater.

This is what happens when a society puts money and things (toys) ahead of what is truly important. Greed spawns corruption.

Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:13:16 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :

quote:
Scum will always cheer the crooks in power to screw the citizen. Happened in Communism, Nazism, ancient Rome, etc. Eventually comes to an end quite violently and the vermin is exterminated, for a while.

Interesting that this particular lesson does not seem to persist through history. Some mistakes can be learned and avoided, some are destined to repeat themselves. This, unfortunately, is a repeater.

Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:13:31 EDT

WernerSchutz posted : Not at all kind sir, just history. Freedom and courage triumphs over greed and laws bought by those that try to stifle progress.

Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:32:05 EDT

Juggernaut posted : It happens to be the truth.

Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:06:02 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by WernerSchutz:

Scum will always cheer the crooks in power to screw the citizen. Happened in Communism, Nazism, ancient Rome, etc. Eventually comes to an end quite violently and the vermin is exterminated, for a while.

Idiots were cheering Tiberius, Khruschev and Hitler as they are now the oligarchy that is killing what is left of the US and the civilized world with draconian laws to protect shit at the expense of the rights brave Americans fought to preserve.

Just keep that in mind.

Is that a threat?
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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:00:10 EDT

Noah Vail posted :

said by Linklist:

said by Noah Vail:

said by Linklist:

It isn't ever going to happen.

Why?

Cost, if nothing else.

There's significant cost associated w/ 6 strikes.
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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:39:08 EDT

WernerSchutz posted : Scum will always cheer the crooks in power to screw the citizen. Happened in Communism, Nazism, ancient Rome, etc. Eventually comes to an end quite violently and the vermin is exterminated, for a while.

Idiots were cheering Tiberius, Khruschev and Hitler as they are now the oligarchy that is killing what is left of the US and the civilized world with draconian laws to protect shit at the expense of the rights brave Americans fought to preserve.

Just keep that in mind.

Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:07:39 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by Noah Vail:

said by Linklist:

It isn't ever going to happen.

Why?

Cost, if nothing else.
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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:59:44 EDT

Noah Vail posted :

said by Linklist:

It isn't ever going to happen.

Why?
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Re: EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:32:24 EDT

pnh102 posted :

said by Linklist:

The EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards to be invoked in a civil process. It isn't ever going to happen.

I don't think this would be such a bad idea. I know it is highly unlikely but if the Constitution were to be amended so that, as pertaining to civil lawsuits, the following rules were to apply:

1. The plaintiff must prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt, as opposed to the current standard of preponderance of evidence.

2. No defendant can be compelled to testify against himself.

3. A trial judge in any civil case in which the plaintiff loses must award some form of compensation to the defendant if the defendant can show that he will endure hardship as a result of paying for legal expenses.
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EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards in a civil process

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:49:44 EDT

Linklist posted : The EFF & ACLU want criminal safeguards to be invoked in a civil process. It isn't ever going to happen.

Their solution is to make it so costly to enforce copyright law, nobody would bother. And they want any system to provide PROOF a specific human being did the infringement instead of a residence related IP address. That also is impossible unless cameras, like 1984, were put in every house.

IOW those 2 entities want copyright infringement to not exist and will do everything in their power to stop any attempts at enforcement.
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