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cowboyro
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join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT
reply to scross

Re: Need some plumbers opinions.

said by scross:

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but in a world of low-flow shower heads and minimal water-use toilets and such (water conservation in general), how does one really justify putting in a system like this?

One word: WANT.
Not all people need to save water. In many places water is too cheap and too abundant to worry. Even a 30min shower would take far less water than what is needed for 1 day of lawn irrigation.

scross

join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN
said by cowboyro:

One word: WANT.
Not all people need to save water. In many places water is too cheap and too abundant to worry. Even a 30min shower would take far less water than what is needed for 1 day of lawn irrigation.

One word: MARKETING. And another word: SUCKER! Despite what the warranty says, I suspect that there may never be a day where this thing DOESN'T leak from somewhere.

I live on top of one of the best and largest aquifer systems in the world, plus next to the Mississippi River and several smaller rivers, so water here is abundant and cheap. Yet we are constantly reminded not to waste it, and they bend over backwards to protect the aquifers - to the point of stopping you if you try to build the wrong type of facility at a geographic point where contamination would be easy. So we all try to be good citizens about this.

On the other hand, I was in Chicago last year (near the lakefront) and my hotel's shower put out so much water that it nearly knocked me off my feet. And I'm not gonna lie about it - it felt good, man, it felt good!

Bob4
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said by cowboyro:

Even a 30min shower would take far less water than what is needed for 1 day of lawn irrigation.

But what if you stripped off your clothes and took a shower under your lawn sprinklers?


cowboyro
Premium
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT
reply to scross
said by scross:

I live on top of one of the best and largest aquifer systems in the world, plus next to the Mississippi River and several smaller rivers, so water here is abundant and cheap. Yet we are constantly reminded not to waste it, and they bend over backwards to protect the aquifers

Because it's much more profitable to charge the same for less. I could get flat rate water service if my need was much higher (the break-even point would be around 15,000gal/mo). Unless we are talking about a big city where water supply barely meets the demand, it's all BS. I have a reservoir about 1000ft away, I have never seen it not to be overflowing.

scross

join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN
said by cowboyro:

Because it's much more profitable to charge the same for less. I could get flat rate water service if my need was much higher (the break-even point would be around 15,000gal/mo). Unless we are talking about a big city where water supply barely meets the demand, it's all BS. I have a reservoir about 1000ft away, I have never seen it not to be overflowing.

Actually, I do live in a major metropolitan area (tri-state, in fact, with multiple utility jurisdictions), so not only is there significant demand, there are also ongoing disputes about which jurisdictions have the rights to use how much of the water at whatever rates. And, having run the numbers, I believe that all of these utilities have determined that we might start running out of our very pure, "fossil" water sooner rather than later, meaning that they might have to invest in major upgrades in order to continue providing clean water at the rates they do now, so they are being very forward-looking here. Which is a good thing!