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I run Linux am I still a PC?
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reply to LucasLee

Re: halo 4 special edition bundle

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said by LucasLee:

could you please repeat yourself a few more times within one post?

we get it, you don't like an all in one multimedia and entertainment device.

that said, you clearly didn't follow the advertising for the 360 before or during the launch back in 2005. even the name, "Xbox 360" was an attempt by Microsoft to be at "the center" of the living room for all entertainment possibilities. 360, as in it is surrounded by entertainment options of all kinds. tv and direct download of video services was always part of the promotion.

personally, i dig the integration.

i'd love to see the source for your "most estimates have PC gaming outdoing console gaming in sales and users altogether" by 2015. perhaps if you're counting flash games and other disposable web content and mobile smart phone games. by 2015 there will be a new set of consoles out and they'll be selling like crazy again pushing serious PC gaming into a niche corner for technically minded enthusiasts. consoles will always fair better with the general market. mark my word.

yeah i got a bit carried away lol, please excuse my passion.

As for my source about sales for consoles and PC,


Dan Stapleton, editor-in-chief at GameSpy.com, says PC gaming is indeed on the upswing, and he thinks there’s even proof in the numbers.

“If we’re talking about raw numbers, how about 30 million active Steam accounts, 15 million League of Legends accounts, more than 10 million World of Warcraft players, and 4 million Minecraft sales?” Stapleton says. “Those are huge numbers, and each is representative of the things that are really driving modern PC gaming: aggressive digital distribution, free-to-play gaming, MMOs, and unfettered indie developers.”

Stapleton says the performance gulf between the PC and console is so big right now that he suspects console players are envious.

“You can’t look at the visual difference between Skyrim, Batman: Arkham City, or Battlefield 3 running on a console next to the PC and not be at least a little jealous,” Stapleton says. “We’re also getting amazing deals from Steam sales, and entire genres like real-time strategy that just don’t work well on consoles. I don’t want to paint all console gamers with one brush, but PC gaming is pretty compelling right now.”

As you can see from the chart above, PC gaming has risen considerably from 2008 to 2012 much moreso then consoles.

This is not to mention how many accounts Steam has added in that time frame.

My neighbors son who is 13 just sold his Xbox, built a PC and installed steam...you can't beat the prices...games are 10-15 dollars cheaper on Steam. Console ports are even cheaper.

IMO the Xbox and PS are in trouble...i won't be surprised if the next gen is the last....I do think Valve will release a Steam Console and it will be upgradeable, and will be the only viable console moving forward simply due to the cheap price Valve can deliver games compared to the others.

again just my take.



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i only meant friendly chiding, and i understand your passion, i've played games for decades across all kinds of consoles and computers.

your source while being clearly from one particular side of the discussion to begin with (a pc mag) appears to fail to accurately acknowledge that the current console generation is 7 years old. of course the pc is doing well right now, and of course the hardware is not equal. but this generation is almost over.
that's exactly what happened back in 2004 when the ps2 and original xbox were slowing their growth.

i guess, i just see too much of your argument mirroring things i heard back when the Voodoo 2 video card was all the rage and people predicted the end of consoles in the 1990's.

so, out of list of "active accounts" referenced (steam/LoL/WoW/Mincraft) there is only marginally more than the number of current active Xbox Live Gold subscribers. and i think it's fair to guess that there is some overlap in those pc gaming related accounts, many of the WoW players likely also have Steam for example.

i'm not saying you're wrong, i just think, this is the most convenient time to make the argument that pc gaming is making a big return to prominence since it's the end of the current console generation. in 3 years, i have a feeling the market wont look like your bar graph as the market is in for a major change once again.

pc gaming is great, it's just not for everyone given the amount of extra effort required to get the most out of the experience.