Topic '[FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox' in forum 'Mozilla Software' - dslreports.com

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:54:33 EDT

La Luna posted : Ahh, that is more clear. I agree, I don't think it's necessary to force those types of links on people. People are capable of deciding what they want themselves. Of course, that fact doesn't stop the phone companies from forcing apps on people either. As you mentioned, I had to root my phone to get rid of the crap. Just as an example, ALL the Facebook apps suck (IMO). They are all horribly glitchy, slow and plain just don't work. I go to FB via the browser to the mobile site, no app needed (or wanted). Hence, FB apps are deleted (and I tried a few of them beyond what came with the phone, they all stink).

Point being, why would anyone want to go through that on their computer browser? I guess we'll have to wait and see what actually comes to be.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:06:22 EDT

carpetshark3 posted : Automatic built-in links to most social sites like Android phones seem to have. Earlier versions of Android had to be rooted to get rid of the built-in versions, and you have to clean that crap out of all browser bookmarks.

FX has had some unwanted extensions - who is to say someone can't slip in an extension that calls home to some of these sites - if you don't want them to. OK for the users who do want everything bundled together.

I'm tired of cleaning out stuff I don't want.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:45:11 EDT

La Luna posted :

said by carpetshark3:

What bothers me is the thought of social media getting in the act.
What if FX sees that most people stay logged into FB - will they add a way to make it easy for everyone? Then the rest of us who don't either like FB or don't stay logged in have to jump through hoops to opt out or whatever......

According to the info that chachazz posted, it will not know what websites you visit, so I don't see how it could tell if people stay logged into FB or not. And you can already stay logged into FB if you want to, so I'm not sure what makes you think they need to make it easy for everyone. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:21:49 EDT

Grail Knight posted : Not sure when the meeting is not that I would attend it when email works fine for reporting opinions.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:53:40 EDT

Mele20 posted : I think most of us had not seen the bug thread until you posted it and I appreciated the link to that.

So, how do we find out the date of the Town Hall meeting on this and can anyone attend and voice an opinion? I get the idea that the Town Hall meeting is just window dressing as the important decisions have already been made and as BenB posted on Sept 21 in the bug thread "My proposal on how to collect data anonymously was completely ignored."

But I'll attend the town hall meeting if I know when and where. I don't think anything anyone says now though will stop Mozilla or even get them to make it Opt In. This is great for Opera. Europe will switch to Opera now and Firefox will be on the road to irrelevancy except maybe in the USA where we currently spit on privacy. :(
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:29:57 EDT

Grail Knight posted : This is not particularity pointed at you just an observation.

I think some people are forgetting that this feature is still in development and its options are as yet not set in stone.

If what MoFo offers is not to ones liking 3rd Party dev builds are an option and I have little doubt someone will offer Fx (or whatever name they give it) sans data collection in the future.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:33:35 EDT

dandelion posted :

said by BitWeasel:

When *any* software developer builds into their product an elaborate mechanism for creating "studies" that collect information about the user's configuration and use of a product that *is* a problem. A problem that becomes more prevalent with each passing year because more and more marketing and metrics people push for it and fewer and fewer end users actively oppose it. Nothing is lost by doing this the right way: making it a 100% optional, pure opt-in, addon driven component. Sure, metrics people will whine they they won't get all the data they want and likely try to spin things by playing up "opt-in creates a bias" while neglecting to mention that opt-out creates an equal but opposite like bias. The very best way to try to mute the bias issue is to force the user to choose "yes, please install" or "no, please don't install" *before* the offensive and risky components are installed. I think anyone who cares about the future of Firefox and Firefox users would support this kind of approach and oppose the less user friendly alternative that Mozilla appears intent on pursuing.

Agreeing with this approach.. some would point out that ff is a free browser. Take it or leave it.. there are others.

My issue with this is I actually LIKE/becoming less and less.... firefox, I don't even care if the browser requires some payment/donation to use if it continues to stay user friendly and IMO user friendly is allowing this yes/no before installation rather then have to remember.. opt-in/opt-out.. change this or that in order to keep some semblance of the privacy desired on the web. Some I agree wouldn't care but I think more care then what is portrayed using the term "general public".
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:41:33 EDT

Mele20 posted :

said by howardfine:

I have to laugh at all this when you consider what data we collect about you when you visit our web sites and any advanced web site. Most of us know your IP address, what city you live in, what page you entered our site on, how long you stayed on each page and which page you went to next. You can block your cookies but I can still store data in your browser about you without you knowing it.

And millions of web sites do this all the time without you knowing about it. So being concerned about this is laughable.

What do you mean? You are speaking of Supercookies? Or are you speaking of Offline Storage? Explain to me how you believe you can store data in my browser when I have overridden automatic cache management and my Cache is limited to 0MB of space? This is on all my browsers except IE where I cannot designate 0 cache and is one reason I use IE just for speed tests that require Flash and Java as I don't want those on the browsers I surf on. As for Supercookies, you don't think I have ways to protect against those? Or do you mean that if I download some gizmo from your website that you are using Alternate Data Streams to hide a trojan in the download? You can't do that on my computer as I have Stream Shell Extensions software that detects anything hidden in ADS on a download.

Yes, you know my IP address (that's rather important if I want to connect to your webiste ...unless I decide to use an anon proxy), as for what city I live in that is debatable as my ISP many times designates my city as Herndon, Virginia, other times as Atlanta, Georgia, other times as Waihiawa, Oahu, Hawaii, sometimes as Kailua-Kona, Hawaii, sometimes as Kansas City, Kansas, etc. As for knowing what page I entered your site on...yeah...soooo? But if you tell me I entered using IE 8...could be correct but is more likely that I SPOOFED the browser I am using to make you think I am using IE 8. Webbugs? The Proxomitron with Sidki's latest configs nukes those as well as kills all ads (although I will allow ads sometimes on websites that I like and respect in order to help that website). Need I continue?

I must say that you have an extremely low opinion of others. What is your website? I want to avoid it, not because I am worried about you storing information in my browser, but because I don't like your nasty attitude about people who may visit your website.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:16:51 EDT

Sentinel posted : "(I didn't look back at previous posts)"
But you'll make a determination anyway. ;) Figures.

"Being paranoid is not an opinion"
Actually it sounds like the very definition of an opinion to me. It is a persons opinion that another person is paranoid. To the other people their views are not paranoid. But your statement of paranoia "as fact" demonstrates exactly the point I was trying to show so thank you for that. Any opinion that differs from your "fact" is paranoia. No one is allowed to have an opposing view or they are crazy.

"Statements as you make like "demanding you take her cookie" as an example of this is way off base. This collects internal browser performance data and now you're saying it's being shoved down your throat."

If you are forced to do something whether you want to or not then it is exactly like my cookie analogy. If you are unaware of the opt-out, as most users are, then you got it; whether you want to "participate" or not.

Unfortunately it is up to uninformed users like you (about security and the loss of privacy) that we get more and more of this kind of thing until eventually even people like you will wake up one day and say hey, maybe we went too far. Of course by then we'll be so far down the road that it will be too late. Put simply you should stand up for a persons right to not take the cookie; especially if you don't understand it or agree with it. The fact that the person just simply does not wish to participate should be enough for you. If that person is denied that right of refusal that should concern you. Regardless of how silly it seems (to you in your opinion, which I respect).

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:52:46 EDT

BitWeasel posted : When *any* software developer builds into their product an elaborate mechanism for creating "studies" that collect information about the user's configuration and use of a product that *is* a problem. A problem that becomes more prevalent with each passing year because more and more marketing and metrics people push for it and fewer and fewer end users actively oppose it. Nothing is lost by doing this the right way: making it a 100% optional, pure opt-in, addon driven component. Sure, metrics people will whine they they won't get all the data they want and likely try to spin things by playing up "opt-in creates a bias" while neglecting to mention that opt-out creates an equal but opposite like bias. The very best way to try to mute the bias issue is to force the user to choose "yes, please install" or "no, please don't install" *before* the offensive and risky components are installed. I think anyone who cares about the future of Firefox and Firefox users would support this kind of approach and oppose the less user friendly alternative that Mozilla appears intent on pursuing.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:46:20 EDT

howardfine posted :

said by Sentinel:

So your saying that a user has no right to an opinion? All users have to take the manufacturers opinion as "reasonable" and if you disagree then you are unreasonable? Having an opt-out is useless if no one knows about it.

(I didn't look back at previous posts)

Being paranoid is not an opinion. It's more of an uninformed decision. I believe a couple people stated the opt-out option is shown.

All this worry is based on automatically thinking there's a problem where there is none. Statements as you make like "demanding you take her cookie" as an example of this is way off base. This collects internal browser performance data and now you're saying it's being shoved down your throat.

It helps make a better product but people are quivering in their boots as if the sword of Damocles was hanging over their head.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:36:21 EDT

howardfine posted :

said by EdmundGerber:

Considering they haven't collected any information yet, how the hell can you say what will and will not be collected?

Mozilla states what will be collected.

quote:
Do you ever Not have a knee-jerk reaction to criticism of Mozilla ?

Do you mean how others have a knee-jerk reaction to anything Mozilla does? I took one side and they took the other so I'm immediately the bad guy?

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:56:30 EDT

Grail Knight posted : Slow down sunshine the feature is still being hashed out and things could change.

Remember microsummeries and the nonsensical rantings you posted?
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Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:09:59 EDT

Dude111 posted :

quote:
You can block your cookies but I can still store data in your browser about you without you knowing it.

Ah man!!

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:08:10 EDT

Sentinel posted : So your saying that a user has no right to an opinion? All users have to take the manufacturers opinion as "reasonable" and if you disagree then you are unreasonable? Having an opt-out is useless if no one knows about it. The average user will have no idea what is going on and thus have no idea that he can opt-out. And most companies remove opt out features if too many people opt out.

All I want is the ability to disagree and think what I like which I am losing because of the "majority" that don't care. I respect your right not to care. God bless ya. All I ask is that you respect my opinion that I do care. But for some reason if I just don't want to play I am a heretic and shunned. The Amish rule of computing. If don't play along the way we say you are shunned. No one respects the opposing view of caring.

And when I say I don't want to do something that seems mild and everyone loses their mind and demands that I do it, all of a sudden it makes me think ... hmm. Perhaps I was right not to want to do that. Perhaps it is not as mild as it seems. If a lady offers you a cookie and you say no thanks you might feel like perhaps you were rude and you should have taken the nice ladies cookie. But if, after you refuse she loses her mind and demands that you take the cookie ... then you start to think that perhaps it was a good idea not to take the cookie after all.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:34:36 EDT

EdmundGerber posted :

said by howardfine:

said by Sentinel:

But my ability to be able to say "no thanks, I'd rather not participate" is paranoia?

Yes because no information about you is being collected but some automatically fear it without reason. They presume bad things will happen.

Considering they haven't collected any information yet, how the hell can you say what will and will not be collected?

Do you ever Not have a knee-jerk reaction to criticism of Mozilla ? How about let's see how things shake out before getting all righteous, eh?

And it's Opt Out. Very unlike Mozilla. It should be Opt In, then you folks who roll your eyes at privacy concerns can sign right up, and we'll all be happy.

said by Grail Knight:

He is a Mozilla Dev. so what he says will more then likely occur especially the opt out.

Damn - I was hoping for a voice of reason over there...

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:52:24 EDT

howardfine posted : I have to laugh at all this when you consider what data we collect about you when you visit our web sites and any advanced web site. Most of us know your IP address, what city you live in, what page you entered our site on, how long you stayed on each page and which page you went to next. You can block your cookies but I can still store data in your browser about you without you knowing it.

And millions of web sites do this all the time without you knowing about it. So being concerned about this is laughable.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:59:15 EDT

Mele20 posted : Oh, this is nothing as you can easily opt out although it should be opt IN not backwards and requiring opt out. So right there, you know Mozilla is not being honest about it. As for Mitchell Baker's blog on it, I don't appreciate the insults. She is really out of touch with reality, and her users, as there was no need for her to insult anyone who plans to opt out.

What I find more worrisome is that Fx is on schedule to become a SOCIAL browser (ver 17).The plans there are nauseating and the reasons for this SOCIAL browser crap are even more nauseating and insulting of those of us who do NOT share the crazy notion that the internet is now simply one big Social network and that all anyone does on the net is social networking junk.

We need a fork before the Social browser version is released. Yes, all this crap can be disabled but why will it be there by default in ver 17? Here again, it should be OPT IN not opt out. And can I be absolutely sure I am opted out of all this junk and not being tracked by various social websites...especially in Windows 8 which is retarded when it comes to using the Host file to block this crap? I suppose Fx 17 will need to be INSTALLED OFF LINE so one can get all the SOCIAL browser crap disabled before going online so as to not be tracked.

I hope the new ESR version, out in a few months, blocks all this junk regarding being a Social browser as of ver 17.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:14:40 EDT

BitWeasel posted : This wouldn't be so bad if it were truly an opt-in, add on component. It being built in to Firefox is disturbing. Not only because Firefox will soon come with a remote control spyware like component built in (full capabilities yet to be seen and that could "accidentally" be enabled or at some point made to be non-optional), but also because Mozilla would cross such a line to begin with.

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Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:43:58 EDT

Dustyn posted :

said by Dude111:

It should!!!!

You should want your privacy... They are becoming intrusive like Microsoft is......

But it doesn't.
What they are collecting is of little privacy concern to myself.
You can opt-out of the service if this disturbs you.
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Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:52:42 EDT

Dude111 posted : It should!!!!

You should want your privacy... They are becoming intrusive like Microsoft is......

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:46:43 EDT

KodiacZiller posted : If you don't like it, take that feature out of the codebase, then recompile the browser. FF is open-source, so the code is there for you to read and compile.

Or you can wait for someone else to release builds without this feature. I am sure such a project will crop-up (as it did with Chrome, although SWIron does nothing that can't be done in regular Chrome).
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:07:51 EDT

carpetshark3 posted : What bothers me is the thought of social media getting in the act.
What if FX sees that most people stay logged into FB - will they add a way to make it easy for everyone? Then the rest of us who don't either like FB or don't stay logged in have to jump through hoops to opt out or whatever.

I go read Mozillazine for shits and grins. I remember some of the volunteers being real upset about complaints about the "awful bar."
There were a few nasty posts which got to be funny.

A lot of so-called improvements just seemed to cater to those who are too lazy to type, bookmark, or do more than one mouse click. I just think that's contributing to people being too damn lazy to think, reason things out, or pay attention.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:59:48 EDT

chachazz posted : {{that is opt-out and not opt-in}} -are those your words in a quote of Mozilla text?

Thanks for correction.

User is presented with choice and can disable it at any time.

Spyware ? No it is not.

Drama and FUD.. yes.

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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:15:34 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by chachazz:

Some much drama... :huh:
Read the FAQ.

Using this feature will be users choice (opt-in), under users control and disabled at any time.

It is opt-out and not opt-in as the FAQ says.

When it appears, users will get an explanation of what it does and will have the option to disable it.{{that is opt-out and not opt-in}}

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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:07:25 EDT

chachazz posted : Some much drama... :huh:
Read the FAQ.

Using this feature will be users choice (opt-in), under users control and disabled at any time.

FHR makes it clear what information is collected, makes the information directly visible within Firefox, explains why this data is important and provides users with complete control over deleting their own data, we hope to establish new best practices that can be followed by other developers and our competitors.

FHR will not collect email addresses or track website visits, which services users are logged into, downloads, or search details, nor will it collect other information which directly identifies you as a user.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:58:58 EDT

howardfine posted :

said by Sentinel:

But my ability to be able to say "no thanks, I'd rather not participate" is paranoia?

Yes because no information about you is being collected but some automatically fear it without reason. They presume bad things will happen.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:28:12 EDT

Sentinel posted : I agree with you. Thank you for posting but honestly, don't expect a lot of support from many in here though. Many people in here are fine with others deciding their privacy limits and don't care all that much about their ability to decide for themselves what info goes in and out of their PC. They are fine with others deciding for them what is good for them and what is necessary. To each his own.

So wanting to collect performance data to improve the product is not being user friendly?

It sure is. But my ability to be able to say "no thanks, I'd rather not participate" is paranoia? I don't care what a company does as long as I can opt out. I prefer having the ability to determine for myself what info goes in to and out of my PC. But that's just my opinion.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:20:19 EDT

howardfine posted :

said by kickass69:

Yes of course let's over exaggerate

My over exaggeration is in response to your over exaggeration.

quote:
because Mozilla can't do no wrong and can't ever change their intentions. Them putting this 'feature' into Firefox can easily be just a start.

You can easily react negatively to anything in life and I find some doing the same with everything in the tech world because of the privacy fad everyone's exposed to in forums. Any attempt to send anything home is always a privacy violation and, soon, will be a ball and chain around our necks.

Of course, we can always stop using that product should Mozilla ever do anything negative. Such an action would cause severe harm to Mozilla and should prevent them from doing such a thing but no one seems to think about that.

quote:
Given Mozilla's mission statement above and being an organization 'for the users', I'd say that would make them no different then those two and at that rate become just as untrustful and careless about said users as well.

So wanting to collect performance data to improve the product is not being user friendly? Go on.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 03:01:38 EDT

kickass69 posted : "And then they want to post your picture on their front page, your home address and street view of your house. Then, if you try to use another browser, they look up your tax filings and report you to the IRS!!!!!!!"

Yes of course let's over exaggerate because Mozilla can't do no wrong and can't ever change their intentions. Them putting this 'feature' into Firefox can easily be just a start.

"So Microsoft and Google already do this and you're worried about Mozilla?"

Given Mozilla's mission statement above and being an organization 'for the users', I'd say that would make them no different then those two and at that rate become just as untrustful and careless about said users as well.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:57:56 EDT

Reimer posted : No. Actually, user metrics isn't enabled in Chrome by default.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:57:27 EDT

howardfine posted :

said by kickass69:

Well damn, aside from the 6 week cycle to keep up with Chrome

Firefox went on a faster dev cycle before Chrome did.

quote:
...they're now slowly becoming what Chrome is...wanting to use their users data...

They aren't using what is known as "user data". They are using internal browser config and performance data.

quote:
initially to “help us improve performance, fix problems and let users see how their browsing experience compares against other instances of Firefox" and then watch them sell it off to the highest bidder.

And then they want to post your picture on their front page, your home address and street view of your house. Then, if you try to use another browser, they look up your tax filings and report you to the IRS!!!!!!!

quote:
..well they'll now eventually have the data in more than one way to give them that opportunity that Google and Microsoft make a mint off of.

So Microsoft and Google already do this and you're worried about Mozilla?

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:05:03 EDT

kickass69 posted : Well damn, aside from the 6 week cycle to keep up with Chrome...they're now slowly becoming what Chrome is...wanting to use their users data...initially to “help us improve performance, fix problems and let users see how their browsing experience compares against other instances of Firefox" and then watch them sell it off to the highest bidder. It's a slippery slope.

Mozilla's mission being "to promote openness, innovation & opportunity on the Web"...well they'll now eventually have the data in more than one way to give them that opportunity that Google and Microsoft make a mint off of.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:25:39 EDT

Grail Knight posted : He is a Mozilla Dev. so what he says will more then likely occur especially the opt out.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:18:04 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by Grail Knight:

As usual there is always more to the story.

»bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718066

In particular item: Comment #66

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Whoever BenB is, he is tearing Mozilla a new ones over this plan.
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:12:34 EDT

Grail Knight posted : As usual there is always more to the story.

»bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718066

In particular item: Comment #66

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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:07:33 EDT

Dustyn posted : What they're collecting doesn't bother me...

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:57:04 EDT

Juggernaut posted : FF isn't Chrome.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:17:39 EDT

Mister M posted :

said by Linklist:

To gather more info on the use of their Firefox browser, Mozilla is adding a "phone home" feature. At first it will just be in their nightly builds.

»thenextweb.com/apps/2012/09/22/m···browser/

Mozilla today announced Firefox Health Report (FHR), a new feature that sends data back to the company in order to help them “build a more excellent browser.” In addition to improving and prioritizing development, Mozilla also says FHR will “help us improve performance, fix problems and let users see how their browsing experience compares against other instances of Firefox.” The feature is coming to the nightly build of Firefox, which means it will eventually hit the stable version of the browser, likely in Firefox 19 or maybe even Firefox 20.

So what exactly will FHR share with its creator? Mozilla says these four types:

Configuration data (such as device hardware, operating system, and Firefox version).
Customizations data (such as add-ons, count, and type).
Performance data (such as timing of browser events, rendering, and session restores).
Wear and Tear data (such as length of session, how old a profile is, and count of crashes).

If privacy bells aren’t ringing in your head, they should be.

Doesn't Google Chrome already do all of that? And more?

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:21:19 EDT

ZzyzxFromOR posted : Just in case you were afraid to check it out;

Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at www.ms-ieporn.com.

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:21:32 EDT

Santa Fe posted : Oh Noes, Mozilla will find all my visits to www.MS-IEPorn.com ;)

And have no idea if that IS an actual site or not. :D
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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:42:45 EDT

chrisretusn posted : Bells ringing in my head? Nope.

I do have bilateral tinnitus, so there is ringing, but alas no bells (or whistles either).
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[FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:09:08 EDT

Linklist posted : To gather more info on the use of their Firefox browser, Mozilla is adding a "phone home" feature. At first it will just be in their nightly builds.

»thenextweb.com/apps/2012/09/22/m···browser/

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Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

Re: [FireFox] Mozilla adding phone home spy feature to Firefox

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