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Soho97UK
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Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

"Scheduled to be released next month, Ubuntu 12.10 now includes both Amazon ads in the user's dash and by default an amazon store in the user's launcher. The reason for these 'features'? Affiliate revenue. Despite previous controversies with Banshee and Yahoo, Canonical is 'confident it will be an interesting and useful feature for our 12.10 users.' But are the 'users' becoming products?"

Slashdot article

I'll probably still use Ubuntu, after removing the ads of course.


Snakeoil
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Ugh. I was just thinking of moving up on my install. I'm still running natty norwale.



shrtckt

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reply to Soho97UK

This sickens me


Kearnstd
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The moment ads are called a "Useful and interesting feature for our users" by any company, I tend to think its time to look for a different version of the software.

Thankfully with Linux that is exceptionally easy to do.
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Soho97UK
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reply to Snakeoil

Apparently it's simple to remove -

sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
 


KodiacZiller
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reply to Soho97UK

I don't mind. If Canonical can make extra $$$ it's good for all of us. And, as was said, it's easy to remove.



No_Strings
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I think it's outrageous. There are plenty of legitimate avenues for revenue - selling CDs/DVDs, support subscriptions, merchandise - but teaming up with Amazon to spam users, adding a commercial app and spinning them as useful features is so far afield from the tenets of Open Source Ubuntu users ought to be screaming bloody murder.

"It's easy to remove" is a cop-out.

Funny how Secure Boot is characterized as an evil conspiracy designed to lock out competition and workarounds dismissed out of hand but pre-installed spam is okie dokie.



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Just one more reason to totally avoid Unity. Fortunately, XFCE looks almost exactly the same under Debian. My test VM using Debian Squeeze is hardly distinguishable from the host system running Xubuntu Lucid...

Having been an Amazon Affiliate for years now, I don't consider the mere act of affiliating to be spam-like. However, I've not received a penny from them since sometime in 1997 so obviously I'm not working at it very hard. It was just a way of picking up a bit of change from folk who liked the book reviews on my web site.
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Agreed. Does anyone not involved in pushing adverts on people agree that adverts are "interesting and useful" ?

(Back when the US do-not-call list was being mooted, there were raging arguments on this site, with telemarketers claiming that telemarketing provided people with "interesting and useful" information).



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First Unity, now Advertisements & a shopping link. Is Canonical REALLY trying to lose market share?
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Santa Fe
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said by ubermoe:

I run Ubuntu and this story was just a shock, not for a long time. Slashdot> Ubuntu blog and BOOM! It's all misunderstood.

They are not adding ads into the operating system but the actual thing is adding a search-engine kinda feature. Type "Kindle Fire HD" and you will get suggestions from amazon. read on Ubuntu blog: »benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/22/l···tu-12-10

one major failure is sending search terms to the internet unencrypted. privacy concerns.

Aw, you take all the FUN outta being Paranoid!
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ubermoe

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reply to Santa Fe

»bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sourc···/1054776



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Apple is just as bad which is why I am here. Years ago when Mandrake was first released I played with it and loved what it would do. However many things have happen since then and time has taken its toll physically. I cannot do what I did then.

Last fall I bought a new Mac server for the i7 and drive space - not realizing that I opened my own personal Pandora's box.

I looking for a simple browser and email not tied to goggle that will work for me with little effort. . I don't like Apple inserting search engines in the URL bar, because it overrides the search engine I use which is ad free and fast.

Help is appreciated.
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EUS
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nice.....




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FF4m3

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Shuttleworth defends Ubuntu Linux integrating Amazon:

This will contain, not ads, but search results from Amazon. This is part of the integration of Web apps into the Ubuntu desktop. In addition to the Amazon integration into Ubuntu search, there's also a separate Amazon search app. More than 40 other "Web site apps" such as BBC News, Facebook, and Reddit also will be available.

Amazon is the only such app that's being integrated into search. Why? Olli Ries, the Director of Technology at Canonical, explained, that this "more suggestions" results category is there to help users find "content available online in addition to what already resides on their device (thus continuing the maturation of the dash as a viewer to different types of offline and online content). As with the other lenses, a preview section --accessible by right clicking on the result --will allow users to instantly view descriptions, app ratings, music previews, purchasing options when relevant and more, directly from the dash."

And why has Canonical elected to do this? Well it's for the reason you'd think: To make money. Ries continued, "For some of this content, if a user clicks the item and purchases it, it will generate affiliate revenue that we can invest back into the project. … We have found affiliate revenue to be a good method of helping us to continue to invest in maturing and growing Ubuntu."



No_Strings
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If Slashdot got it wrong and Shuttleworth is correct in saying there are no ads, I'll drop my use of the term spam and my objecton to that point.

I maintain, though, that this is a bad direction and is akin to ISPs, software companies or manufacturers installing toolbars or DNS hijacks. It is most certainly not a helpful feature, except to the pockets Canonical and Amazon.



FF4m3

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said by No_Strings:

this is a bad direction and is akin to ISPs, software companies or manufacturers installing toolbars or DNS hijacks. It is most certainly not a helpful feature, except to the pockets Canonical and Amazon.

100% agree. Fail for Shuttleworth on this one.

As The Register says:

Fans revolt over Amazon 'adware' in Ubuntu desktop search results

Ubuntu loyalists are furious that shopping suggestions from Amazon will be plonked into desktop search results, shown when users attempt to find stuff on their computers and the local network.

The new deal with Amazon means that, according to punters, if you use Home Lens to find a file called, say, "journal" on your computer, this query will be sent off unencrypted to Canonical's server and return as a link to Amazon for "Taylor Dupree - Journal [2011] $2.79" among various suggestions. Woe betide anyone searching for something more personal or sensitive.

The affiliate deal with Amazon has stirred the hackles of the Ubuntu faithful, who see the new on-by-default "feature" as a sell-out to the etail giant. Upset Ubuntu users fear their data will be skimmed by Amazon and used to sell them things while carefully tabulating their porn-viewing habits.



FF4m3

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said by Ars Technica :

In response to accusations of privacy violations, Shuttleworth wrote, "We are not telling Amazon what you are searching for. Your anonymity is preserved because we handle the query on your behalf. Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already."

The "we have root" statement raised some more hackles in the comments section of Shuttleworth's blog. Explaining what he meant, Shuttleworth said, "Every package update installs as root."



No_Strings
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Wow. Just wow.


mich

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said by Ars Technica :

In response to accusations of privacy violations, Shuttleworth wrote, "We are not telling Amazon what you are searching for. Your anonymity is preserved because we handle the query on your behalf. Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already."

LMAO, I certainly don't. And I guess that Shuttleworth doesn't particularly care about enterprise customers.


devrandom
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While I understand what Shuttleworth is saying, his phrasing really could be better. It sounds almost like blackmail, even though he IS technically right (updates, and other fun things eventually runs as "root").

It is a shame that Ubuntu is going down this weird, bumpy path of "experiments" -- while I would like to see a company outside of Red Hat, et. al succeed with a Batteries Included distribution, they're doing a bang up job of alienating a lot of people in the process.



FF4m3

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said by devrandom:

they're doing a bang up job of alienating a lot of people in the process

Agreed.

A privacy issue mentioned previously, of great importance to many, is that "if you use Home Lens to find a file ... this query will be sent off unencrypted to Canonical's server and return as a link to Amazon"

For example, Google queries use encrypted connections.

Bad decisions, Ubuntu.


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The fact is, when I'm searching my desktop, I'm searching my desktop, not shopping.
This is invasive, time-wasting, and short-sighted. Yep, a marketer's wet dream.
Could this be the future of 'free software'?
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