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Re: Technical challange!said by urbanriot:said by elwoodblues:I've always been horrible at making cables. To this day I refuse to make them, (extremely long runs, I let someone else crimp on the ends).
I was like that in the early 90's, stubbornly against crimping network ends because I just couldn't do one. Then I think around 1994 I was at a site which didn't have it's fancy patch blocks available so I had to temporarily crimp around 1,000 ends and after the first 50, like Gone, I can do it with ease and it's like riding a bike... I haven Like Gone though, I still don't like doing it. If you cant make your own cables, you will sooner or later make the "networking closet hall of messyness fame". We try to always cut our cables to length. The job always looks neat and professional when we are done. With that being said. I have walked into plenty of patch rooms where 6 foot patch cords are used for a 2 foot patch. After the first couple it looks like a spaghetti explosion.  |
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2012-Sep-26 11:27 am
said by dmas1er:If you cant make your own cables, you will sooner or later make the "networking closet hall of messyness fame". ... which is exactly what I did here at our store last night when I was "cleaning up" the wiring room, because I didn't want to cut and crimp cables to length.  Wire tires are a wonderful thing  |
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said by dmas1er:If you cant make your own cables, you will sooner or later make the "networking closet hall of messyness fame". Never happen! I'd have a wiring specialist do the job. Neat and orderly cables and punching shit down was someone else's full time job, not mine. I always knew when to call the professionals. |
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2012-Sep-26 12:03 pm
said by urbanriot:Never happen! I'd have a wiring specialist do the job. Neat and orderly cables and punching shit down was someone else's full time job, not mine. I always knew when to call the professionals. When I did all this stuff professionally we'd do the same thing. The only thing we'd do is connect patch cables to the block, everything else was done by an actual wiring company. Now that I'm out of the industry and only maintain my own stuff, stuff for my friends and the shop where I work, I am wholly lazy about how I do things. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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First you shouldn't be using a 2foot patch cable, a buddy of mine wires places up and I believe he said it would be an issue with crosstalk, I'd have to ask him again, but under 3ft is a no no.
But yeah, I know what you mean by the messy cables. |
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 twizlarI dont think so.
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2012-Sep-27 9:41 pm
said by elwoodblues:First you shouldn't be using a 2foot patch cable, a buddy of mine wires places up and I believe he said it would be an issue with crosstalk, I'd have to ask him again, but under 3ft is a no no.
But yeah, I know what you mean by the messy cables.
Thats a myth, short patch cables work just fine. |
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said by twizlar:said by elwoodblues:First you shouldn't be using a 2foot patch cable, a buddy of mine wires places up and I believe he said it would be an issue with crosstalk, I'd have to ask him again, but under 3ft is a no no.
But yeah, I know what you mean by the messy cables.
Thats a myth, short patch cables work just fine. A Myth? I'm getting this from guy who does it for a living and has completely rewired places like CBC and Leaf TV. |
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2012-Sep-27 9:53 pm
said by elwoodblues:A Myth? I'm getting this from guy who does it for a living and has completely rewired places like CBC and Leaf TV. I don't care what he says, there is no minimum patch cable length. Between powered devices is a bit of a different story. The minimum total run between powered devices is three feet. |
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twizlarI dont think so.
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said by elwoodblues:said by twizlar:said by elwoodblues:First you shouldn't be using a 2foot patch cable, a buddy of mine wires places up and I believe he said it would be an issue with crosstalk, I'd have to ask him again, but under 3ft is a no no.
But yeah, I know what you mean by the messy cables.
Thats a myth, short patch cables work just fine. A Myth? I'm getting this from guy who does it for a living and has completely rewired places like CBC and Leaf TV. Then he knows nothing about networking or ethernet in general. You can use 3 inch long cables if you want with no issues. I have wired thousands of racks and always use the shortest cables possible for all in-rack connections. More than likely someone, somewhere told him that as it is a common myth and is treated as fact by many cabling people that do not know the actual standards. |
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dmas1er
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2012-Sep-27 11:41 pm
Never heard of the short cable thing before, but I also have never had trouble using short cables in my 15 year run....
The only time I would use a really short one, is if I was going from router to switch and they were stacked one on top of the other. |
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