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FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
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reply to Alex J

Re: Almost there, Karl.

said by Alex J :

IF forced to provide flatrate ($) "UNLIMITED" , either the rate($$$) will grow exponenially year after year, or capacity will rapidly be overwhelmed leaving a nearly useless traffic jam 24/7.

Which is why Verizon FiOS is so totally unusable and Verizon makes no money, right?

This is nonsense.

It isn't nonsense. Because you ignored the other theme that Karl keeps bringing up - cord cutters. The more people who end their TV service, but keep internet and start video streaming non-stop, the internet gets more jammed up and needs upgrading at the same time income goes down for the cable companies due to less TV revenue. As TV revenue goes down, the companies will charge more for internet access. And bill-by-byte is the best method to do that.
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Alex J

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Nobody is debating that they're jacking up the price of data to offset the expected and inevitable loss in TV subscribers. Cord cutting is an incredibly, incredibly slow shift. If a company whose primary job is to build networks can't use the significant profits they're making to be ready for it with a ten year warning they deserve everything coming to them.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

It isn't nonsense. Because you ignored the other theme that Karl keeps bringing up - cord cutters. The more people who end their TV service, but keep internet and start video streaming non-stop, the internet gets more jammed up and needs upgrading at the same time income goes down for the cable companies due to less TV revenue. As TV revenue goes down, the companies will charge more for internet access. And bill-by-byte is the best method to do that.

No, it's selling higher and higher speed tiers without having the appropriate network and/or upgrades in place that causes congestion. Do you ever have a clue?

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to FFH

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yeah, those major ISPs are shelling out a bundle for connectivity (a little dated, but if anything that category may be smaller)


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

And bill-by-byte is the best method to do that.

except they don't really want to do that. that want to charge what they are charging now and add overages. That's not bill-by-byte. Bill-by-byte would mean someone that uses only 20 GB a month wouldn't be charged $50 like someone that used 200 GB. They'd only be charge $10 a month or something like that, but ISP certainly aren't going to do that because they would LOSE money.

Even a quasi bill-by-byte system should be more like $25 a month for service with say a 50 GB cap and $1 per 10 GB overage. But once again ISPs won't do that since most of their customers use less than 50 GB a month


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to nasadude

Amounts to 3/4 of 1%. They spend 4X as much on purchasing STBs.

Also let's se so they collect around say $6 billion a year from customers for internet service and only spend $40 million on internet connectivity. Sounds like they are doing just fine.