 elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | reply to osravens
Re: Proof the Bubble's About to Collapse said by osravens:Enjoy it when it hits, AT&T and Verizon.
These prices are obscene. No, they aren't, otherwise, people would not pay them. |
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 | said by elray:said by osravens:These prices are obscene. No, they aren't, otherwise, people would not pay them. Yeah, they kinda are. Talk to people in Europe, Asia and elsewhere--in many other parts of the world consumers get much more than we do, for much less money.
People pay what they pay here because they need the service and they've no other options, or because they (think they) have money to burn.
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| said by jseymour:said by elray:said by osravens:These prices are obscene. No, they aren't, otherwise, people would not pay them. Yeah, they kinda are. Talk to people in Europe, Asia and elsewhere--in many other parts of the world consumers get much more than we do, for much less money. People pay what they pay here because they need the service and they've no other options, or because they (think they) have money to burn. Jim This is absolutely not true. They are paying alot more in europe for less than we are here. Example, bought a few sims for Orange when we were in the UK (to talk to each other in UK), £30 or $48 got us 300 mins and 300 texts and I think we could get picture messages but no data. And the people that called us had to pay more, and we had to pay for the 0800 numbers that we could call from landlines for free. --
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 | I think you simply got ripped off. Theres way cheaper plans in the UK. Such as »giffgaff.com/index/offer »www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-as-you-go/plans/ |
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| reply to bobjohnson You do know that calling such numbers = international calling on all sides right? I have a Vodafone sim that I use when I'm in the UK, but I know that people dialing a UK number from the US = international call. Likewise calling a 1-800 number from the UK... |
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| said by sk1939:You do know that calling such numbers = international calling on all sides right? I have a Vodafone sim that I use when I'm in the UK, but I know that people dialing a UK number from the US = international call. Likewise calling a 1-800 number from the UK... Yes, I am aware of that. I am talking about people from the US paying .59/min to call a cell phone instead of .29/min to call a landline in the UK and the 0800 (not 1-800) toll free UK numbers charging you about .20/min on cells and toll-free on landline. --
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | reply to elray said by elray:said by osravens:These prices are obscene. No, they aren't, otherwise, people would not pay them. Ya, ask the Cable/Satellite companies that sell overpriced "content" to the suckers that want it.
Heck, even the Cable/Sat companies think it's ridiculous that the prices are going that high, but people want their content at any cost. -- Bresnan 30M/5M | CenturyLink 5M/896K MyWS[PnmIIX3@3.3G,8G RAM,500G+1.5T+2T HDDs,Win7] WifeWS[A64@2G,2G RAM,120G HDD,Win7] Router[2xP3@1G,2G RAM,18G HDD,Allied Telesyn AT2560FX,2xDigital DE504,Sun X1034A,2xSun X4444A,SMC 8432BTA,Gentoo] |
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 | reply to bobjohnson U know there are calling card plans, skype, att call international that have landline calls to uk for $0.04 and .29 to cell phones. I used att call app and I think it was good quality. |
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 | reply to bobjohnson One experience, with one kind of service, in one country, whereas my sources are my many on-line colleagues and family in Europe. They live there. I think they know what they're paying for mobile services. As with broadband and subscription TV: They are all often astonished at what we get for what we pay--and I don't mean in an envious way.
said by bobjohnson:They are paying alot more in europe for less than we are here. Example, bought a few sims for Orange when we were in the UK The U.K. is not "Europe" and one-off pre-paid SIMS are not the same as post-paid.
said by bobjohnson:And the people that called us had to pay more, "Caller pays" in the U.K., Europe and most of the rest of the world. That's why, for most of the world, mobile phones are in pre-determined prefix'. (I think the system is lame, but that's what it is.)
said by bobjohnson:and we had to pay for the 0800 numbers that we could call from landlines for free. What's an "0800 number?"
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 | reply to bobjohnson this is comparing apples to oranges :no pun intended:
buy the service from a local address and then compare.
if you are in the have side of life and live in an overseas location you will almost always pay a good deal less for almost everything. this includes phone service. quality is a different animal. ever seen a Mercedes with an non padded plastic seat. 230k luxury car U.S. 8k Taxi Africa. same steel different plastic. cheers.. U.S. is still preferred place to live just get some nads about the smart phones. |
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| reply to jseymour Im from Europe too (Poland) and I have some acquaintances and families there. While Poland isn't considered Western Europe, its the largest market in Central (or Eastern) Europe that has grown a lot and continues to grow. Over there cell phone services are still more expensive than in the US.
said by jseymour:said by bobjohnson:This is absolutely not true. One experience, with one kind of service, in one country, whereas my sources are my many on-line colleagues and family in Europe. They live there. I think they know what they're paying for mobile services. As with broadband and subscription TV: They are all often astonished at what we get for what we pay--and I don't mean in an envious way.
Users don't get as much minutes or especially unlimited for the price we get, but they do have free incoming calls. Only calling party pays for calling. Also landline phones pay more if they call cell phones, unless maybe if they are in the same network (like Orange). said by bobjohnson:They are paying alot more in europe for less than we are here. Example, bought a few sims for Orange when we were in the UK The U.K. is not "Europe" and one-off pre-paid SIMS are not the same as post-paid. Ive seen data plans there from t-mobile UK starting as low 10GBP, but the data allowance low too, typically starting at 250mb, with max 1.5gb cellular data (3GB limit for wifi). ATT basic wifi here is unlimited regardless of plan. T-Mobile Poland (former Era) is very pricey. The plan for iphone 4 (iphone 5 coming there tomorrow) with unlimited text, sms/mms and 2GB is 140zl for invididual with upfront cost for phone 500zl. That is a lot of money there. said by bobjohnson:And the people that called us had to pay more, "Caller pays" in the U.K., Europe and most of the rest of the world. That's why, for most of the world, mobile phones are in pre-determined prefix'. (I think the system is lame, but that's what it is.) said by bobjohnson:and we had to pay for the 0800 numbers that we could call from landlines for free. What's an "0800 number?" its toll free number, just like our 1-800 or 866 number. |
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 elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | reply to Simba7 said by Simba7:said by elray:said by osravens:These prices are obscene. No, they aren't, otherwise, people would not pay them. Ya, ask the Cable/Satellite companies that sell overpriced "content" to the suckers that want it. Heck, even the Cable/Sat companies think it's ridiculous that the prices are going that high, but people want their content at any cost. No, people don't want their content "at any cost".
They're just willing to pay today's rates, which means the prices are set appropriately. |
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