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Your Daddy
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Re: Business Plan

said by drew:

Now for my question... how does everyone propose that reporters get paid? You and I don't want to pay for it. The for-profit companies aren't interested in being unprofitable...

What's the plan here? Something's gotta give, right?

Why do reporters need to get paid? Why do we need to maintain the same volume of reporters and the same evolution of reporters? You've also made some assumptions here that need to be questioned. Are all news sources unprofitable? Is it possible that news agencies have failed to adapt their business models to the current demands of the people?

Taxation for news is not the answer. If there is no profit in news, eventually, no one will have news, right? Of course not. There is a demand for news and it requires the right innovators to come up with the appropriate business model for success. In 1840, 64% of the population were farmers. By 1990, less than 3% were farmers. Did we suffer an ultimate death in the agriculture industry? No. The world's economy evolves. People find new purpose. Industries learn how to become profitable. It is not up to you or I to figure out how to do it.

(Source: »www.agclassroom.org/gan/timeline···land.htm )

For as long as capitalism has been around, companies rise and fall. That is the nature of capitalism. Only recently have we decided that such a model is bad and failing businesses must be "bailed out" because we fear for the consequences.

We now pay more into corporate welfare than we do for personal welfare. We support failing businesses which no longer need to account for failure in their business model. Businesses no longer need to become efficient, innovate, or do anything right. They simply need to know how to acquire government assistance to keep their failed companies afloat

(Source: »thinkbynumbers.org/government-sp···tistics/ )

These companies should have failed. Would the demand for their products or services failed? No. Do people no longer need cars? Of course not. Our population is still growing and people still need private transportation to get to where they want. It'll just be provided by companies who can provide a product that people want at a price people are willing to pay.

But that's not how it works anymore. Now, companies will be bailed out. They can make bad decisions without consequences.

Corporate welfare is much more dangerous than social, personal welfare. With personal welfare, we can provide assistance to those who need it, but the rampant abuse means that productive members of society are leeching off of the rest of the people who work.

With the corporations having the ability to pay into politicians pockets with contributions, they can control which politicians can enter into the political arena. They can choose which ones survive and which ones get pushed out. Corporations can get billions of dollars and the politicians can get millions in return. The money comes from the tax payer.

Put enough people on personal welfare and you've absolutely disintegrated the middle class and small business. With corporate welfare, no one can rise out from the ashes, because new businesses cannot compete on innovation, service or lower prices. Corporations can lawyer them into oblivion.

Propping up newspapers is just another such symptom of this entire mess.
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drew
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Re: Business Plan

You all failed to read my post, especially the introduction.

I'm not favoring taxation to subsidize (read: prop-up) the business model.

I'm asking for YOUR SOLUTION to the funding issue.

I agree 100% with Immer See Profile that they need to get back into the business of fact-checking and out of the business of tabloid sensationalism. However, are you willing to pay for that? What's the business model?

I'm interested in solutions, not posts telling me that "taxation isn't the solution." I'm not proposing it as one - leave that for another thread on this article.
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Re: Business Plan

My solution to the newspaper funding issue is to sit on my hands and do nothing. Let them figure out how to survive and if they cannot, then I hope to see a new innovative business model come out of it.

I like the coupons, but those are becoming digital more and more as the time passes.
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drew
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Re: Business Plan

That's a cop out answer

Everyone has an opinion on what's not the solution but nothing about what the solution is.

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Re: Business Plan

The solution is a series of micro-solutions by an unfathomable amount of sources. Decisions by each of the reporters to contribute better content and create a better product. Decisions by the management to direct their people to make a better product. Decisions by executive management to decide how to drive their business into a modern era. Decisions by the consumer on how they want to see their news and what types of news they want to see. Decisions by competitive news organizations to be innovative and attack outdated business models that cannot survive. The list goes on. The list of events that sways this one or another is what drives the economy, speculation, stock markets, etc. If we knew this information, we could make investments accordingly and profit heavily.

This is the "sit on my hands" solution that says we need not intervene. We simply need to sit back and observe. News isn't dying. A company is dying and it arrogantly thinks it is an industry when it is not. It can adapt, or die.
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SomeGusdfsay

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Simply put, as the consumer it is not up to us to find a solution. While I fully agree news is good (don't repeat history and all that) we are not the ones selling the product. Like any other business, it is up to the company to figure out how to make it viable. If I don't buy TV's anymore, it's not up to me to figure out how to make them profitable. Right now the company is trying various ideas, like paywalls, that are generally failing. Now they are trying to get subsidized and well, will fail as well. Time for them to figure out something new, not me.
ericthered26

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It's not a cop out. It's truth. It's not our job to find a solution, we don't own a newspaper. I'm not even remotely worried about it, because I don't live in some fantasy land where some big newspaper fails and then somehow I never ever ever again get news.

And paying a tax to "save" them from the destruction they deserve if they can't create a product others want to PAY for, is outrageous.

It's awfully generous of you to offer your time and ideas to saving a failing business, but if they want mine..... I want a paycheck.

drew
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Re: Business Plan



Typical news (be it local, national, tech, whatever) commenter attitude. Quick to berate an idea but has nothing to offer instead.

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said by drew:

I'm interested in solutions, not posts telling me that "taxation isn't the solution." I'm not proposing it as one - leave that for another thread on this article.

Here's just some random ideas I've cobbled up without any research, just throwing them out there. Ultimately it's their job to figure this out, not mine. But since you wanted some solutions, here's what comes to my mind.

- Improve the quality of your content and go behind a pay wall. Post the article online the day of the event, update the same article with new information (don't make a new one), then optionally post the fleshed out article on paper the next day. Maybe include comments from the website. This way you get the immediate newsflash online, then the researched article later.

- Tie in with social networking. Want to read our news? Link us with your Facebook profile. We'll get your info, but in return, we'll give you relevant location based stories. If you have your home and work address in Facebook and give that to us, we can intelligently give you your own personal traffic report. And here's your actual *LOCAL* news.
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drew
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Re: Business Plan

I appreciate you at least trying to solve the problem.