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Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to Ken

Re: Need help with an old safe

The other obvious thing is to reverse the digits within each number, i.e., 13-61-98 or 51-61-98 (and +/- 3 and 5).


Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN
I have been doing that as well.


DataDoc
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Martinsburg, WV
reply to Ken
There's an 800 number on that page link.


norbert26
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Warwick, RI
reply to Ken
i dont think i seen this suggested. Try ignoring the 1 in 315 and try that as a 35 for the first number and in with other numbers in various order(s) as you have been doing.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to mattmag
said by mattmag:

And who knows, really. The three could mean "Add 3 to each number" or "take away 3"........ oh my..

OR if he's so sure that it's a 3 number combination:

16 (-/+3) = 13 or 19
89 (-/+1) = 88 or 90
38 (-/+5) = 33 or 42

As for those saying to safe crack, well I deal with about 5 combination locks at work (3 to 4 numbers each). What I notice is a "tick". It's not heard as much as it is felt as I spin the disc. I don't feel it when I reach the number on the last revolution, but I feel it when I pass over the number while completeing revolutions.


Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN
reply to norbert26
I have tried 31+5=36 and I believe if it was 35 it would have opened when I dialed 36. From what I understand the tolerance is sloppy enough that you can dial 1 number in either direction of the correct number and it still opens.


bottomside

@tmodns.net
reply to Ken
other ideas: check the bottom and back of the safe for numbers.
a saw or angle grinder with diamond wheel will open but destroy it.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to Ken
BTW Ken, when you tested all your combinations, did you try turning the disc in the opposite direction at the very end, see if it locks up? Safes at my work require that move, otherwise they don't unlock.

When you try your combinations, first try opening it without turning the disc after the last digit, and if it doesn't work, try turning the disc. At least you'd be covering that possibility at the same time.


norbert26
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Warwick, RI
reply to Ken
another thought comes to mind. since there are so many different possibilities i assume you are writing down and keeping a record of everything you tried. Try each twice just in case you missed something / mis dialed on first attempt.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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I second Norbert.
Even with the correct numbers I still have some safes that are moody. They'll either open on the first try, or not open until after 3-4 attemps.


Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN
reply to alkizmo
Yes after the last number I turn the opposite way to see if it stops, which so far it hasn't. I have not been trying to open it on the last number as the way I understand it you have to turn it the opposite way to what we might call the 4th number where it should stop turning. Yes I have a large list of the numbers I have already tried, and when it feels like the dial wants to stop on the number I will try that combination again just to be sure.


mityfowl
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Dallas, TX
reply to Ken
I just asked my dad. He can't remember. even 3 or 4 numbers. He remembers that lock.


mityfowl
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Dallas, TX
reply to Ken
I can't here anything soft like I used to.


Sc0tt
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Stockholm, NJ
reply to Ken
for God's sake, don't cut it open. i know a LOT of people that keep the black powder for their muzzleloaders in the safe.

on both of my safes, after dialing in the combination you have to turn the dial the opposite way of the last action until it stops before actually opening it..........


sempergoofy
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Smyrna, GA
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reply to Ken
»www.stethoscope.com/
Never knew they were so expensive.

But if you want one for less than $10 then
»www.amazon.com/Prestige-Medical-···4&sr=1-2
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DadeMurphy
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Danvers, MA

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reply to Ken
Have you tried 45 as the first number? (3x15)


fartness
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Look Outside
reply to Ken
Can you use a stethoscope to hear anything when turning it?


beck
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On The Road
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reply to Ken
Have you looked for a local lock club? Many groups crack locks as a hobby. There might be one close to you.


Ken
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Markle, IN
reply to Ken
said by DadeMurphy:

Have you tried 45 as the first number? (3x15)

I tried 45 when I did 3+1 & 5 = 45

said by fartness:

Can you use a stethoscope to hear anything when turning it?

I don't have one

said by beck:

Have you looked for a local lock club? Many groups crack locks as a hobby. There might be one close to you.

I have not looked


mattmag
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NW Illinois
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reply to Ken
Heck no, don't cut it open, it would spoil the most interesting thread I've seen here in a long time!!!!



Karride
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Germantown, TN
said by mattmag:

Heck no, don't cut it open, it would spoil the most interesting thread I've seen here in a long time!!!!


+1


koma3504
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North Richland Hills, TX
reply to Ken
if you took the 3 off the 15 and 16 make 31

31-16-89


Karride
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Germantown, TN
reply to Ken
First number: 3*15-16 = 29 maybe?


StubbornMule

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reply to Ken
I am sure you have tried some of these but how about:
3-15-16
31-5-16
38-89-16
38-16-89
38-31-51
31-51-68
1-7-2 (gotten from taking 315 subtract all the numbers then you have 172)
36-16-89
36-16-38
16-89-38
53-16-51


JRW2
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reply to Ken
Have you tried subtracting the next three numbers from the first??
I know the wheel only goes to 100, but it might be as simple as starting at "0" (Zero) and going that number for the first revolution, then that number BACK for the second revolution, then forward for that number for the third, or some permutation of that....

So 299, 226, 277...

Or 99, 26, 77...

Or, 99, back 226 numbers to 27, then forward 277 to 4...

Or something along those lines...

Or..
99, 10, 72
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UHF
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reply to Ken
Post a close up of the dial. Looks a lot like a safe we have at work. It's a touchy bastard.


dogma
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reply to Ken
48 minute review of safe cracking:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=odu1d8OAW9Y


Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN
reply to Ken
I will take the requested picture and try everyone's new combinations a little later.


mattmag
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NW Illinois
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said by Ken:

I will take the requested picture and try everyone's new combinations a little later.

Later???!!!

You have the most active thread on the entire website now, (look on the front page) and you're making us wait until LATER???!!!



but ya, you have a life too of course...


jrs8084
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Statesville, NC
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reply to Ken
Don't be surprised if Geraldo shows up.