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Ken
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Re: Need help with an old safe

said by alkizmo:

What do you mean that the safe has 3 wheels?
Are you saying there are 3 different discs that can be set to different numbers?

It has 3 discs as opposed to a 4 disc lock. So the combination is going to be 3 numbers and not 4 numbers. But someone could write it down as 4 numbers as there technically is a 4th number. But there is no way to go past the 4th number so it doesn't need to be written down or remembered.

said by VioletVenom:

Does a correct combination get a "finder's fee" if riches are stashed within?

I fully expect it to be empty.

said by Bob4:

Are you sure you're making the proper number of revolutions in each direction when trying potential combinations?

Once (if) you get it open, you might find another locked compartment inside!

I looked the safe up quite a bit and the correct combination is 4L - 3R - 2L - 1R
If there is a door with a keyhole I'm sure I will be able to pick it, they don't look to be very complicated locks.


mattmag
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And who knows, really. The three could mean "Add 3 to each number" or "take away 3"........ oh my..


Bob4
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said by mattmag:

The three could mean "Add 3 to each number" or "take away 3".

That would be my guess.

Probably easier to hire a safe expert (not a locksmith).

Bob4
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By manipulating the lock, can you determine what the last number is? The locks we use at work have a noticeable indent (for lack of a better word) at the last number. Maybe that would give you a clue to decoding the numbers on the wall.

Without knowing one of the numbers in the actual combination, you're unlikely to decode the written combination.



Ken
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I actually already tried +3 and -3 and then +5 and -5 to each number and just to the first number. I also took 31 16 89 and 15 16 89 and tried them in all possible positions. I really don't want to call someone in, as that takes all the fun out of it. If I get totally sick of this that will be my Plan B. Also I just finished trying all the numbers everyone has posted so far.



Ken
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Markle, IN
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said by Bob4:

By manipulating the lock, can you determine what the last number is? The locks we use at work have a noticeable indent (for lack of a better word) at the last number. Maybe that would give you a clue to decoding the numbers on the wall.

Without knowing one of the numbers in the actual combination, you're unlikely to decode the written combination.

I have tried manipulating the lock as well. I can tell that the 3rd disc is higher than the other 2, but I can't discern a clear number from that disc. Each time I go around I write down all the numbers that stand out, and after 20 times around I don't have a clear leader. Part of the problem is this lock is a bit rough and I feel to many things going around.

Bob4
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reply to Ken

The other obvious thing is to reverse the digits within each number, i.e., 13-61-98 or 51-61-98 (and +/- 3 and 5).



Ken
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I have been doing that as well.



alkizmo

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said by mattmag:

And who knows, really. The three could mean "Add 3 to each number" or "take away 3"........ oh my..

OR if he's so sure that it's a 3 number combination:

16 (-/+3) = 13 or 19
89 (-/+1) = 88 or 90
38 (-/+5) = 33 or 42

As for those saying to safe crack, well I deal with about 5 combination locks at work (3 to 4 numbers each). What I notice is a "tick". It's not heard as much as it is felt as I spin the disc. I don't feel it when I reach the number on the last revolution, but I feel it when I pass over the number while completeing revolutions.