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jman642
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2000-Aug-12 10:12 am
Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 5260To get at your Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5260:
1st) Verify that the TCP/IP protocol is installed and your IP is set to 10.0.0.x and subnet mask is set to 255.255.255.0 or 255.0.0.0 (both work)
Q: How do I Verify my TCP/IP Settings?
A: Right click on Network Neighborhood (assuming your using Windows 98), then properties. The Network window opens. Scroll down to find TCP/IP - 'your network card' (be aware there may be more that one if you have a dial-up connection. that would look like TCP/IP - Dial-Up Adapter). Click on that listing. click on Properties. The TCP/IP Properties window opens. Select the IP Address tab. Here you can see your IP Address & Subnet Mask.
Q: How do I install TCP/IP, because its not listed for my network card (NIC)?
A: In the Network window that you have open, select the Add... button, select Protocol, then Add... Now, in this exact sequence, select Microsoft from the right side and TCP/IP from the left (you may need to scroll down). Now click on OK. At this point it will ask you for the Windows 98 CD and eventually want to restart you computer.
Q: OK, TCP/IP is installed, how do I put in the right settings?
A: Refer to 'Q: How do I Verify my TCP/IP Settings?' to get to the right place. Once you click on the IP Address tab, select Specify an IP address:, then in IP Address: type 10.0.0.2 and in Subnet Mask: type 255.0.0.0 (note: a couple of different settings work here, as I mentioned above)
2nd) Telnet to your SpeedStream 5260 on 10.0.0.1.
Q: How do I Telnet? [Moment of truth!]
A: (again in Windows 98) click on Start, then Run... Type 'Telnet 10.0.0.1' without the quotes. A Telnet window will open. It also may try to connect to your ISP (I'm using RASPPPoE and the Dialup Connection widow opens... Just hit the Cancel button). You should see 'Command-)' in the Telnet window. FYI, the connect process only should take a couple of seconds. If it takes longer, it probably won't connect. If that is the case, verify that you don't have any other devices on your network using 10.0.0.1 as the IP address. Also, verify you TCP/IP setup is correct. I have seen mention that the install tech's may disable a telnet session in. I don't ~believe~ that is possible, but I do know that the IP address or subnet mask can be changed. If that is the case, good luck, because I have no answer to that.
3rd) Run commands in the telnet session.
Q: How?
A: It's pretty basic. Use the '?' to get help, either general or specific. For instance, at the 'Command-)' prompt, type '?' (with out the quotes, of course) and hit Enter. you should see:
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Command Description
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show Shows system information, status, IP configuration
set Sets configuration parameters
delete Deletes NAPT server entries, routes, or PVCs
default Sets various parameters to factory defaults
clear Clears statistics
reboot Reboots the router
firmware Downloads new firmware to the router
getconfig Set router configuration from a file
putconfig Save router configuration to a file
quit (exit, logout, logoff) exits command session
logout (exit, logout, logoff) exits command session
logoff (exit, logout, logoff) exits command session
exit (exit, logout, logoff) exits command session
atmping Tests the ATM link by transmitting an OAM loopback cell
ping Sends datagram round-trip to specified IP host
traceroute Traces the route (hops) from the router to an IP address
This is a list of all the top level commands. You are able to type some of the commands without any options. For instance, type 'show' to see the General Bridge Information. Or type 'show ?' to see its options
Some commands do need the options, though. Now type 'set ?' and you'll see:
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Command Description
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bridge Enables or disables the bridge function
bridgefilter Enables or disables bridge filtering
bridgemac Enters MAC address into the bridge filter table
dsl Sets DSL interface state to reset, connected, or disconnect
ethcfg Sets the Ethernet communication mode
ethip Sets Ethernet IP address, and network mask
hostname Sets the system hostname
ipgateway Sets the IP gateway (default route)
password Sets a new password for the router
spantree Enables or disables spanning tree
vc Configures virtual circuits
This is a list of all the second level options. To see what a specific command does type 'set ethip ?' and you'll see:
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usage: set ethcfg (full | half)
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Allows configuration of the data transmission direction of
the Ethernet interface. The interface can be set to 'half'
(one-way transmission at a time) or 'full' duplex (transmission
in both directions at once). The default setting is 'half'.
I believe you can use this notation to get help on every command available in the router, although I haven't tested every command
BTW, the 'set ethcfg full' command shown above is the only thing that I have changed on my SpeedStream 5260. This ~should~ help if you have a full duplex NIC. DO NOT use if you NIC is half duplex or you are unsure.
Warning: Changing some of these settings my make it impossible to connect to the internet. I cannot take any responsibility for any changes you might make. Be sure to save or write down every change so you can change it later if it doesn't work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Also, DO NOT enable Bridgefilter. I have heard from many people saying that it will make you 5260 useless.
Lastly and optionally, remove the TCP/IP... binding from you NIC in the Network window (find you NIC, click properties, then click Bindings, then uncheck TCP/IP) as I have found that if TCP/IP is bound to my NIC, while I am on the internet, there will be a 30Sec. pause every 5min. or so. This will remove the TCP/IP protocol from you computer (unless its bound to another NIC) and will prompt you to restart. At this point you will not be able to telnet to the SpeedStream 5260, unless you add TCP/IP back.
Now that you know how to get in, post any SpeedStream 5260 speed or security tweaks that you come up with, as the only one I've know of is setting it to Full duplex. -Jason
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actions · 2000-Aug-12 10:12 am · (locked) |
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Some additional Info. I have found out that if your TCP/IP protocol has a specific IP address set (as outlined above) it will not exhibit the 'temporary pausing' I mentioned above. So, there is no need to remove the TCP/IP protocol |
actions · 2000-Aug-16 6:42 pm · (locked) |
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But you wouldn't be able to connect to the internet if you have PPPoE or DHCP. you need a static IP, wouldn't you? |
actions · 2000-Sep-5 6:35 pm · (locked) |
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You stated...
(snip) I have seen mention that the install tech's may disable a telnet session in. I don't ~believe~ that is possable, but I do know that the IP address or subnet mask can be changed. If that is the case, good luck, because I have no answer to that. (snip)
If the IP address or subnet mask has been changed, a program such as LANScan can be used to determine the modem's IP configuration. If bridge filtering has been enabled, the modem will not allow itself to be accessed with a telnet program. The bridge filtering must be disabled or the modem must be reset to factory defaults. In either case, this must occur without the telnet interface. I do not know how this can be accomplished, but I sure would like to know. |
actions · 2000-Sep-6 3:38 pm · (locked) |
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I have been looking for "tweak" information for the speed stream 5260 modem for some time now. seems no one really knows how this modem/bridge really works.
I had set my 5260 to full duplex a while ago and didn't notice any difference in my uload dload speeds. did anyone else who changed that setting see any differences?
I would like to thank jman642 for posting this. perhaps now we can learn more about the settings and get these things running to their full potential.
thanks again,
scoobie |
actions · 2000-Sep-6 4:23 pm · (locked) |
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OK...I'm a Goober! What is Telneting and what can I do. Sheesh, I hate being the dummy. -- Reeder |
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>>>But you wouldn't be able to connect to the internet if you have PPPoE or DHCP. you need a static IP, wouldn't you?
Well... I was using RASPPPoE and had no problems with a static IP on my TCP/IP. I believe the PPPoE software is it's own protocal that uses the NIC, so PPPoE and TCP/IP would work in tandem. |
actions · 2000-Sep-18 10:50 pm · (locked) |
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Did you discover telneting in yourself? I've used google to search for the 5260 and can't find anything interesting...
I've set the modem to full duplex:
Command-> show ethcfg
--- Ethernet Configuration Ethernet Mode - Full
But the fd light on my switch doesn't light, I've also tried pluggin directly into a nic, rebooting, etc... so does the fd light up for anyone? Switching from half to full, I have to reboot the modem to reconnect, but going from full to half, I don't have to.
I've changed the ip to 192.168.x.x with no problems.
FTP'd down my config.. that was cool for some reason..
I've played around changing stuff in the vc, without blowing anything up or anyhting happening..
I was originally looking for info on interleaving since I'm with Cavad, but this is all I've found:..
Line Type - Fast or Interleaved |
actions · 2000-Sep-20 9:56 pm · (locked) |
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Great thread!I had fun playing with my Speedstream 5260.... I like the way it tracks it's uptime...mine was up for 33 days until I rebooted it (switch half to full duplex). What I want to know is...if someone knows your modem's hostname (default: SpeedStream) couldn't they theoretically telnet into your DSL modem from the greater Internet and fuck shit up?? Hmmm....beware of Hackers!!! Maybe I should password my Speedstream....? |
actions · 2000-Sep-22 9:12 pm · (locked) |
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Re: Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 5260I know I have a full duplex NIC but when I go to full duplex I can't connect. Could it have to do with my hub? I probably just answered my own question. |
actions · 2000-Sep-23 1:57 am · (locked) |
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Re: Great thread!Since the IP address you can get in on is only 10.0.0.2, that is only available from the inside of your network.. So I (the hacker) know that your speedstream is 10.0.0.2, and so is everyone elses, the info is useless to me.. 10.x.x.x does not get routed by anyone. Hostnames are just a layer over IP addresses, so thats no issue.. |
actions · 2000-Sep-23 2:39 am · (locked) |
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2000-Sep-23 9:31 am
my 5260 is connected to a router so I imagine before telnet I would need to connect modem directly to NIC, right? is there substantive improvement by going full duplex? so happens my NIC supports full duplex but if the change in modem configuration yields little in performance, maybe it's not worth the hassle... -- "in flante delicto" |
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Ohhhhhhhh..... :)Is that why they call 10.0.0.XXX private addresses? Hehe... Funny thing is, now that I have my modem and NIC both running full-duplex, if I download a file fast enough (say, 160 KB/s ) I get mad collisions...I really don't think a network consisting of 3 nodes (2 computers, 1 modem) should have collisions...am I doing something wrong? Should I plug the modem into the uplink port instead of port 1? |
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2000-Sep-29 11:08 pm
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Re: Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 5260Has anyone found a hub that actually shows full duplex? Here is info from Speedstreams website: http://support.efficient.com/KB/5000/30496.HTMProblem or Question: When connecting 5010 or 5250 to my auto-sensing 10/100Bt ethernet adapter, 5010/5250's ethernet led stays amber or never comes on at all when it should turn green. Why? Resolution Summary: There are some 10/100 chips out there that my not detect our 10Bt correctly. Therefore, a work around would be to set your card (or hub port) to 10Bt and half-duplex. Thanks for the help guys! I have a Linksys Model EZXS55W and it DOES NOT sow full duplex! |
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2000-Sep-29 11:35 pm
The Linksys Model EZXS55W is a 10/100 SWITCH/HUB http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=149&grid=7 but it does not show full duplex. Just needed to clarify things a little better. Thanks Guys! |
actions · 2000-Sep-29 11:35 pm · (locked) |
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routing to privite ips?never mind
[text was edited by author 2000-10-05 01:41:50] |
actions · 2000-Oct-5 1:39 am · (locked) |
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HubsA hub is a "dumb", layer 1 device. All it does is link physically link computers connected to it together, it does not care about mac addresses, or any protocols. If one machine sends a packet it goes to every machine connected to the hub regardless of their settings. The machine will then read the higher level protocol headers and trailers to determine whether it will accept the packet. Using a hub is like connecting all the computers on one cable.
Switches, on the other hand, are a layer 2 device, meaning that they read mac addresses. If computer A wants to send to computer B, the switch will read the mac address and give the two machines a dedicated connection (not shared), so A's packet would not go to C, D, and E, as it would on a hub. This dedicated connection allows for Full duplex communication, there is not a hub that can do full duplex. You need a switch or a router to do that. A router is a level 3 device, by the way, which means it handles IP addresses. |
actions · 2000-Oct-11 6:39 pm · (locked) |
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Re: Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 5260What is a bridge then? |
actions · 2000-Oct-12 10:46 pm · (locked) |
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2000-Oct-13 3:59 pm
A bridge is a layer2 device designed to connect network segments together. It keeps local traffic from travelling to the other network by reading the mac addresses. So if Pc a on segment 1 wants to send to pc b on segment 1, the bridge would say hey, this frame is for a pc on this side, I won't send it over to the other side. |
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said by unreged: Did you discover telneting in yourself? I've used google to search for the 5260 and can't find anything interesting...
I knew about telneting before I got the 5260 and knew that some sort of communication must be possible, even thought the booklet said that there was 'no user configurable parameters'. I got my info from posts here at dslreports.com and usenet (deja.com searches). Essentially all of the info was spread across many posts and I just put it together in an easily readable format [text was edited by author 2000-10-17 12:20:46] |
actions · 2000-Oct-17 10:15 am · (locked) |
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Anon
2000-Oct-17 6:41 pm
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i tried this with 5250 and i get timeout (i use windows 2000) and i have 2 network cards in this computer... but i "think" i tried everything.... any idea what else i can do? |
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said by speeder: i tried this with 5250 and i get timeout (i use windows 2000) and i have 2 network cards in this computer... but i "think" i tried everything.... any idea what else i can do?
Not a lot of info to work from, but I've got some random thoughts: 1st) the 2nd NIC adds a fair amount of complexity... possibly pull it and see what you can get. 2nd) Do you get a response when you PING 10.0.0.1? ...you should. Mebby the 5260 is setup differently, try LANScan (do a hotbot.com search for it) to track it down...? 3rd) Are any other devices on you LAN using the IP 10.0.0.1? |
actions · 2000-Oct-18 2:39 pm · (locked) |
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Am I capped?show conn shows RX RATE = 1184, TX = 128 my plan is 1.5/128 am I capped within my 5260???
-- "You're only as fast as your slowest link." [text was edited by author 2000-10-23 22:57:40] |
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Re: Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 520i used to use 5250 w/ my prev isp(nic->5250->world) and one night i desided to scan all private ip ranges w/ port 23:) nothing... however 5250 must have some type of config util becuase i flashed it's bios to newer ver.. would be interesting to run connection monitor during that bios flash to see where/how it's connecting.
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actions · 2000-Oct-25 3:36 am · (locked) |
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Re: Directions on Telneting to your SpeedStream 5260Crap... i read your post today because i enabled bridge filtering on my speedstream...
I now see at the bottom this was a no no....
Any way to get in now? Telnet is out.. any hardware reset anybody knows of? -- Eric Davis Eric_Davis@Mindspring.com |
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2000-Nov-11 2:03 am
I did the same thing by enabling bridefiltering. I called speedstream Co and they told me bluntly that it is not possible to undo this since what has been enabled filters out all packets that go in to the router. In basic he said that telneting voids warranty and that I have an expensive paperweight on my hands. |
actions · 2000-Nov-11 2:03 am · (locked) |
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Anon
2000-Nov-11 11:31 pm
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Several questions have been asked, and not responded to, so I would, respectfully, submit them again!
First, does changing the 5260 from half to full duplex REALLY make any difference? I have been trying to tweak out at much speed as I can, i have a full duplex Linksys card, but I am not going to risk screwing with it, if it doesnt matter that much, so what is your experience those who have done it?
Second, I have two computers connected to a netgear switch and into the modem. Can I get to the modem through the modem? Or do I need to disconnect everything and run straight from the NIC to the modem?
Third, I am using the router to establish the link to the PPPoE service provider, so I dont have the PPPoE software installed as the router negotiates the connection, and the software was bloated and I got rid of it; so do I have to reload all of the software and have an internet connection to do the direct telnet to the modem (perhaps stupid question, but lets get them all out here shall we?)
Fourth, if I disconnect everything, hook directly to the modem from the NIC, change the TCP/IP settings, telnet to the modem, are the settings I change (the duplex) in memory or will they be destroyed by turning off the juice (electric) to the modem?
I think that is about it...by the by, my modem has been rock solid, no probs. I just want to tweak if I can.
Thanks in advance...
Bruce |
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2000-Nov-12 11:13 am
Hi I have not been as lucky as some of you are. I tried getting flashcom to come and install dsl, and they tried covad and northpoint to come do the installation, and it did not work. All I got from them are 2 modems (3 COM SDSL) and Efficient Speedstream 5260 modems at no charge. One of them even installed the network jack into my wall. Apparently the problem is with the phone company or something like that.
Anyway, my question to you is this: Can I use any of those modems to get any kind of dsl service? They even gave me the IP addresses but I don't think they work. Any help you can provide me will be appreciated. Remember, I have been unable to get DSL from anyone.
Thank you. SOrry for sounding like a dummy. Kash p_ld@hotmail.com |
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said by phaethon: First, does changing the 5260 from half to full duplex REALLY make any difference? I have been trying to tweak out at much speed as I can, i have a full duplex Linksys card, but I am not going to risk screwing with it, if it doesnt matter that much, so what is your experience those who have done it?
Specifically, I have no idea if it truly and actually helps by setting it to full duplex. Mostly because I have, nor have I read of anyone, doing any specific tests on this. In theory it will help. said by phaethon: Second, I have two computers connected to a netgear switch and into the modem. Can I get to the modem through the modem? ( you mean switch, I'm sure ) Or do I need to disconnect everything and run straight from the NIC to the modem?
You do not need to disconnect the switch to telnet to the 5260... more info in the next answer... said by phaethon: Third, I am using the router to establish the link to the PPPoE service provider, so I don't have the PPPoE software installed as the router negotiates the connection, and the software was bloated and I got rid of it; so do I have to reload all of the software and have an internet connection to do the direct telnet to the modem (perhaps stupid question, but lets get them all out here shall we?)
You've got a bit of a mix of stuff here, but lets see... You do not and should not have the PPPoE software on any of your computers connected to the router... the router will take care of that for you. The problem is that once you put a router in between a computer and the 5260, you lose the ability to telnet to the 5260. I have not figured out any way to get around this and my requests for help on this issue have gone unanswered. said by phaethon: Fourth, if I disconnect everything, hook directly to the modem from the NIC, change the TCP/IP settings, telnet to the modem, are the settings I change (the duplex) in memory or will they be destroyed by turning off the juice (electric) to the modem?
The 5260 will remember all changes until they have been changed. Turning the power on and off will not change them... if fact, there is no known way to reset this modem back to factory defaults. I have spoken with many who have pulled this thing apart to no avail. That is why you must never turn on Bridge Filtering, 'cuz once its on, then you can never get in to turn it off or to reset it. |
actions · 2000-Nov-12 2:44 pm · (locked) |
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2000-Nov-12 10:19 pm
Cool, thank you for responding!
OK, you answered most of my questions, the only one I still have is...assuming that I bypass the router, and, by going through the switch (you were correct on your correction, sorry), telnet to the modem, may I do so without connection to the internet or any of the software stuff on?
You also mentioned later removing the TCP/IP protocol from the network properties attached to the NIC, should I do this given my set up? If I want to communicate over my LAN, will I be able to without the TCP/IP function? And may the router still work without the TCP/IP function?
Thanks in advance!!!
Bruce |
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