 SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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Re: Last Resort After watching last nights show, I had a question.
What measures are in place to prevent a warship or a submarine/aircraft from going rogue?
Sure you have the other crew members to interfere with mutiny attempts, but what if the people in on the mutiny were able to pull a "Red October" like event?
Meaning stage an emergency, evacuate all the non-partisans from the vessel then sail away.
Has anything like that ever happened in the modern navy?
I seem to recall back in the days of the tall ships [sailing ships] that would happen every so often. Though back then it was easier as the ships had no way to communicate with the government.
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SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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kudos:1 | Nah, they'll just do what Hollywood does, unending ammo. 
But I was thinking the same thing. How many torpedoes does a sub that size carry? |
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| From military.com :
The Ohio Class submarine is fitted with four 533mm torpedo tubes with a mk118 digital torpedo fire control system. The torpedoes are the Gould mk48 ADCAP torpedoes.
...their torpedo rooms were made relatively small, with four tubes like the Los Angeles-class but room for only some 12 of the standard ADCAP Mark 48 torpedoes or Mark 30 torpedo-sized decoys. This made sense when the ship's mission, in an anti-submarine context, was purely defensive. But if an Ohio had launched all her Trident C-4 or D-5 missiles, she could then switch to the offensive, acting as an ersatz fast-attack SSN, hunting and engaging hostile SSNs and SSBNs.
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 darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
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Re: Last Resort - Canceled ABC has cancelled freshman series Last Resort. The military drama will still air all 13 episodes of its original order but will not continue past that.
Since debuting in late September, Last Resort was hailed by many critics as one of the strongest new dramas of the 2012-2013 season, but ratings for the show failed to match up to its critical praise. This past Thursday's episode was its lowest-rated to-date, likely sealing its fate.
Can't say I'm surprised.
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SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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kudos:1 | Damn, it was getting interested. they should have done this as a mini series. |
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darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
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| There was definitely some interesting things going but so much of it felt contrived to me and some of it was just plain stupid (who puts prisoners in a brig where said prisoners can talk to the rest of the crew and cause problems? STUPID.)
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Alpha Phoenix
Re: Last Resort said by Alpha Phoenix:They gonna end up running out of torpedo, missiles, and nukes if they keep using them.
They said they had limited torpedoes in Star Trek voyager too. They used those things like they had a torpedo fire hose.
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Re: Last Resort - Canceled said by darcilicious:ABC has cancelled freshman series Last Resort. The military drama will still air all 13 episodes of its original order but will not continue past that.
Since debuting in late September, Last Resort was hailed by many critics as one of the strongest new dramas of the 2012-2013 season, but ratings for the show failed to match up to its critical praise. This past Thursday's episode was its lowest-rated to-date, likely sealing its fate. From: » www.ismyshowcancelled.com/articl···-by-abc/Can't say I'm surprised. Damnit! Damnit!! DAMNIT!!!! 
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 Rook008Miles To GoPremium
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Bad news. I really liked the show.
I've only seen about 5 episodes so far, but they were all pretty good.
I'll probably watch until the end to see how it goes.
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PX EliezerPremium
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kudos:13 | If they provide an answer, there's no point to anyone picking up the show later on.
If they don't provide an answer, viewers will feel pissed off and betrayed. |
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| said by PX Eliezer:If they provide an answer, there's no point to anyone picking up the show later on.
If they don't provide an answer, viewers will feel pissed off and betrayed.
Agreed. 
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Rook008Miles To GoPremium
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Far Rockaway, NY | reply to Snakeoil
Re: Last Resort The final episode of Last Resort was pretty awesome.
Plenty of action and some great dialogue. |
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SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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kudos:1 | Agreed. It ended well. |
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| For those who have seen the whole thing: would you recommend it or should I take a pass? |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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| said by graniterock:For those who have seen the whole thing: would you recommend it or should I take a pass?
I'd recommend it. It covers a lot of bases, the military, politics, warlords (so to speak can't explain Serrat any other way ). It would havee done very well on a cable show.
I was reading a few last episode reviews and they all said the same thing, WTF was ABC thinking putting a "mans" show on Thursday night against Thursday Night Football, and at 8pm where the competition as fierce.
This would have done very very well in a series of 13 episode seasons on a cable channel. It could of run for years, why did the US nuke Pakistan , who was pulling the strings behind the president and so forth.
They did an admirable job tying up lose ends for the season ender.. but it could have been so much...
I wonder what Autumn Resers next project will be ..ahhhhhhh 
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Rook008Miles To GoPremium
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I'd agree with elwoodblues.
There was so much material to work with that on a cable network, it could have lasted a few 12-episode seasons and been a great show.
ABC screwed the pooch on this one with the scheduling.
As it stands, it's a very good single-season show with a somewhat rushed, but pretty awesome, final episode.
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| Please....that was the worst series finale I've ever seen.........the writers should be canned for that crap. 
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 BloggerJedi PosterPremium
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The show was overall mediocre for me but whenever* it aired often that was nothing better to do time so I watched it.
I think that many people that were in the military would have some real issues with that side of it. It starts off really bad right of the bat with the SEALS that they pick up essentially telling the Capt and XO to mind their own business when they ask about their mission but really hits reality rock bottom when they are initiating missile launch. Instead of turning the keys and launching per the order they question it and refuse to launch per protocol. They stop the launch in an attempt to contact their command. The Chief of the Boat then openly berates and lectures to the Capt about his failure to follow orders and what he should do and why he is wrong. Man oh man, in real life that would NEVER happen. If it did the guy would only get about five words out before he would be tossed into the brig for life. Then other members of the crew are uppity with the Capt when he returns to command after the XO places him back in command. Just an impossibility.
Once they got on the island they basically had written the story into a pigeon hole and they still had the continuous unhappy crew being rebellious or disrespectful to the officers.
*Then there was the problem of airing episodes. One never knew when they were going to come on at times with long gaps between them.
I haven't seen the finale so I'll have to wait to catch in on the web.
The show had promise that it didn't live up to with the basic plot but it was plot that couldn't be sustained for the period required for a successful series.
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darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
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kudos:2 | I've never been in the military and even I had some issues with a number of things. It was an interesting premise that mostly failed in its execution...
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