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reply to Chubbysumo
said by Chubbysumo:when we had the Northeast Blackout of 2003, you could smell the diesel in the air... said by pnh102:
The New York Times? Sorry I gotta presume that whatever they report is completely false until proven otherwise.
I'll stick with Silicon Valley's opinion on this one, simply because what they are doing, for the most part, works.
Well, what this probably came out of is the fact that an MS data center was under their quarterly usage contract and was going to get billed anyways, and decided to use what they paid for. I think it would help if these large use contracts would get rid of the minimum usage that the buyer is getting billed for(so they get billed for actual usage), but the power companies want to know how much energy they will need, so I cannot blame them either. It will take some time and negotiation, but someone will come up with something that works. Also, backup generators are only used when the main power source is more expensive than running the genset, when the main power goes out or is unstable, or if the main power is not enough and they need more.
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The times is in the liberal pockets.
NYT - They want us to ship our datacenters to China too?
Diesel - OK every rig in this country uses it.
NYT - Shall we stop intercommerce traffic and go back to roller carts
Lead acid batteries - That one is hilarious. Every one of the hundred million or so cars on the road have them.
NYT - Shall we take them out, pull out AC/radios/lights, and bring back the Ford crank on a Model T
They use power, but a virtual server can run 100 machines on it, whereas 10 years ago that was one.
NYT - Shall we go back to paper news and not have any computers.
I think the NYT is nostalgic of the Darrrow days and had nothing else better to do. I read the "investigation" and it is littered with incongruous numbers and what is the point of the article?
1. Datacenters are in secret locations. Ok lets let the terrorists know where they are
meh outsourcing datacenters to china china wouldnt allow it theyed shut it down they dont want anything to encourage free speech
reply to elefante72
They're not all that secret. I've been in many data centers. Some are just not that visible. Others are 'hardened' to take tornado/hurricane weather and some (for public sector) are like a military compound.
Servers don't take nearly the power for what they deliver compared to what they did 10 years ago, and even more so compared to the 80's - don't even get me started with the old mainframe style.
This is more of a 'transfer' of power use from slash/burn of forests for paper and driving every where to deliver catalogs/messages, creating catalogs, etc. to having it available online 'globally'.
reply to IllIlIlllIllAnd be glad places had them, just like im sure NYT has a few in their basement. Hypocrites at the best right here.