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Nick D
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join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

reply to Nick D

Re: [Raiding] Mogu'Shan Vaults

Iterating through the possibilities.

On the pull scenarios (these are in theory unique) (and really this is too much, just validating my logic):

Dogs A and B are paired, Dog C is the lone dog.

C is chosen: A and B both have ~20 energy. Pull A over. When A gets to 60, taunt C over to B.

Result:
C explodes, B has 60 energy and is gaining. A stable at 60.

Two choices: A and B chosen
Easy choice: B is chosen.

Result: B explodes, C at 40, A still at 60.

"Harder" choice: A is chosen. Taunt over C (just exploded):
Result: A explodes, C at 40 and gaining, B stable at 60.

Next up, B is chosen, taunt over A, rinse repeat.

So basically after the pull you'll only end up taunting the most recently exploded dog.


Feralmordius

join:2011-01-18

So for clarification, one tank does not maintain two dogs at all time?

Frost and I were swapping dogs and he was maintaining two on him at all time.
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Nick D
Premium
join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

Yeah, we tried one tank for two dogs all the time for a while, but its awkward, and the dogs running across each other can screw up the energy balances you're trying to maintain.

Each tank will take 2 dogs at some point in the fight. Sometimes one tank will take 2 dogs for a long while, if the petrifications just happen to bounce between the same two (they are definitely NOT a pure cycle; just random, and not the same dog twice in a row).

The Rend Flesh mechanic is actually there to keep tank damage consistent despite the number of dogs. The dogs don't melee very hard; tank damage is primarily from the bleed debuff, and having more dogs doesn't make the bleed hit any harder.



McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
kudos:2

reply to Jobbie

said by Jobbie:

No offense at all brother, we all were aware of my gear limitations going in, we also went in without 2 dps. Still was a valuable experience for me since I was able to try my UI and spell rotations on a raid evironment, after losing my tank the first pulls(sry Tib) I started getting the hang of it so when the gear is complete I will be ready.

Having 10 team players like you is what is going to make raiding this expansion fun. We're going places in P&E, I can't wait to see where we end up.
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McBrain#1430

Name's Ash...Housewares.


Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:6
Reviews:
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reply to Feralmordius


So if we start with one of the paired ones being the first to cast petrify (skull)

and then the lone guardian is next

So, now if the "50" starts the cast, the tank on the left will hold them until it explodes. If the "70" get starts the next cast, he taunts over the "boom/0" (that just exploded) and holds them both until the "70" explodes.


Nick D
Premium
join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

Yaus



Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:6

you know you love those mad MSPaint skillz....



Feralmordius

join:2011-01-18

reply to Immer
So the strat should of just been...

Slide to the left, slide to the right, and cha cha cha.

Very nice paint skills.
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Tiermordius on Nathrezim Server (US)
Main Tank for Pride and Ego



Immer
Gentleman
Premium
join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:6

thanks for that.... now I have a goofy wedding reception song in my head... /grrr



McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
kudos:2

reply to Immer

Click for full size
Look what I found when I copied this image to paint and zoomed in...weird.


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:1

said by McBrain:

Look what I found when I copied this image to paint and zoomed in...weird.

I lol'd
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.


JB
Everyday Normal Guy

join:2009-05-14
Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable

Well, Stone Guard down. (In 10man) We have a bunch of shitty melee that don't know how to tank and our 'normal' 3rd tank just dinged so... next week we do 25man. Will kill Feng tonight, we got him to p3 last night. Not bad for only 2 hours of face time. (Total)
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Here's the final bullet,
to put our love to death.



Immer
Gentleman
Premium
join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:6

nice. We are aiming for Saturday night for Round 2. Any tips on Feng from what you guys saw?



JB
Everyday Normal Guy

join:2009-05-14
Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable

It seems pretty simple, we use icy veins. Only thing I can say is do NOT stack up in p3, spread out 'closely' lol.

For Epicenter/p1, we kept boss @ pillar. Stack in mid.
Tank barrier
PWB
Tank barrier
SLT
Tank barrier
Should push p2, if you have another epicenter, use whatever you got left.

P2 is really easy just a lot of healing and dodging the fire.
--
Here's the final bullet,
to put our love to death.



Nick D
Premium
join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

Are you rawr ima bear or jesus beams this expac JB?



JB
Everyday Normal Guy

join:2009-05-14
Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable

Resto Sham atm, I still don't know what the guild wants/needs me as. At first glance it was heals, now it looks like tank.

Probably going to level a monk and go tank/heals as druids aren't quite where I want them to be to tank a 25man guild.
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Here's the final bullet,
to put our love to death.



Venom1

join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA

reply to Nick D

said by Nick D:

We entertained the idea of controlled explosions for a while. Do not recommend.

pulled from the other thread; if you do it right they are all controlled explosions : D
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Harddrive
Proud American and Infidel since 1968.
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join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
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reply to Immer
Latest Loot Table:

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DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
Premium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3

reply to djlar

said by djlar:

Well on BWD you needed 3 tanks on Nefarian, one DPS had to "kite" the adds or make a 3rd full tank, but usually a DK was enough or a mage..

But the DPS add tank was able to be a mage so I wouldn't really call that a 3 tank


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3

reply to Immer
While I'm considering xfering around the 15th, you think ya'll will form a group for LFR night 1?

I figure if we have a good size group queing togather it won't be a wipefest and might give some exposure to the raid

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