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TSI Marc
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Chatham, ON
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reply to elwoodblues

Re: TekSavvy - glorified reseller, not ISP

Sorry dude. It's not a "fact", install TekSavvy cable in parallel and then we can compare. Apples and Oranges.

Each node is different.

We have plenty of capacity on our side, yet, here we are.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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said by TSI Marc:

Sorry dude. It's not a "fact", install TekSavvy cable in parallel and then we can compare. Apples and Oranges.

Each node is different.

We have plenty of capacity on our side, yet, here we are.

Marc, if I'm on Distributel, and my neighbour is on Teksavvy,and he has a problem and I don't what that does say? Does that say that TPIA providers are the problem, or that Teksavvy is the problem?
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TSI Marc
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said by elwoodblues:

said by TSI Marc:

Sorry dude. It's not a "fact", install TekSavvy cable in parallel and then we can compare. Apples and Oranges.

Each node is different.

We have plenty of capacity on our side, yet, here we are.

Marc, if I'm on Distributel, and my neighbour is on Teksavvy,and he has a problem and I don't what that does say? Does that say that TPIA providers are the problem, or that Teksavvy is the problem?

If your neighbour is having problems on TekSavvy but you're not and you're both on the same node. Something is going on for sure. I'd love to hear about that. That's going on right now?
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


elwoodblues
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said by TSI Marc:

said by elwoodblues:

said by TSI Marc:

Sorry dude. It's not a "fact", install TekSavvy cable in parallel and then we can compare. Apples and Oranges.

Each node is different.

We have plenty of capacity on our side, yet, here we are.

Marc, if I'm on Distributel, and my neighbour is on Teksavvy,and he has a problem and I don't what that does say? Does that say that TPIA providers are the problem, or that Teksavvy is the problem?

If your neighbour is having problems on TekSavvy but you're not and you're both on the same node. Something is going on for sure. I'd love to hear about that. That's going on right now?

That's up to him, nothing to do with me, if he's been calling in and complaining , I don't know, all I know he's been bitching about slow speeds to me.
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TSI Marc
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get him to do a traceroute and you do the same, try to see if you have the same node.

can you ask him to PM us his info so we can look at what's going on?

it could be all sorts of things.. could be wiring, could be a router, could be PC issues. Maybe he's surfing places you're not and those places are slower.

There is nothing but speculation that can be said based on this info. Something is going on. What it is, is unknown.
--
Marc - CEO/TekSavvy



elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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He's not on here, but I'll copy your post and email it to him.



TSI Marc
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said by elwoodblues:

He's not on here, but I'll copy your post and email it to him.

ok thanks.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy

The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON
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reply to elwoodblues
That being said, this issue of two homes with totally different experiences despite presumably being on the same node has come up before, and it's interesting. No matter what the two services are, there should be no difference so long as they're on the same profile and there's no POI congestion or weird downstream issues. I'd love to hear what, if anything, comes out of the situation elwoodblues describes.



TSI Marc
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said by The Mongoose:

That being said, this issue of two homes with totally different experiences despite presumably being on the same node has come up before, and it's interesting. No matter what the two services are, there should be no difference so long as they're on the same profile and there's no POI congestion or weird downstream issues. I'd love to hear what, if anything, comes out of the situation elwoodblues describes.

100% agree. In fact, this should be true of Rogers customers also... we should have threads about that. Now that would be interesting.
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elwoodblues
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reply to The Mongoose

said by The Mongoose:

That being said, this issue of two homes with totally different experiences despite presumably being on the same node has come up before, and it's interesting. No matter what the two services are, there should be no difference so long as they're on the same profile and there's no POI congestion or weird downstream issues. I'd love to hear what, if anything, comes out of the situation elwoodblues describes.

I know I'm on McNicol, he could have been moved to Comstock,but how can I tell?
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The Mongoose

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said by elwoodblues:

said by The Mongoose:

That being said, this issue of two homes with totally different experiences despite presumably being on the same node has come up before, and it's interesting. No matter what the two services are, there should be no difference so long as they're on the same profile and there's no POI congestion or weird downstream issues. I'd love to hear what, if anything, comes out of the situation elwoodblues describes.

I know I'm on McNicol, he could have been moved to Comstock,but how can I tell?

Should show up in a tracert...though sometimes the naming can confuse. Either way though, the whole node would move so it wouldn't necessarily help identify the problem. Now if it got moved to Comstock but Distributel didn't have equipment there, THAT could cause some weirdness.


TSI Marc
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reply to elwoodblues
Post a traceroute to say google.ca, we will see if you're on McNicol and we should also be able to see what Node you're on.

Mongoose, can you do it too for fun?
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy


The Mongoose

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Toronto, ON
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I'm on Dupont so not sure I'm of any use in troubleshooting this one, but here's mine:

Tracing route to google.com [74.125.225.32]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms CISCOE4200V2 [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 9 ms 10 ms 10.126.211.129
3 16 ms 18 ms 11 ms 24.156.150.9
4 18 ms 17 ms 8 ms dupont.cable.teksavvy.com [24.52.255.130]
5 11 ms 50 ms 11 ms dupont2.cable.teksavvy.com [24.246.55.117]
6 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 72.14.212.134
7 17 ms 10 ms 12 ms 216.239.47.114
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 216.239.46.160
9 27 ms 26 ms 28 ms 72.14.237.109
10 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms 209.85.250.28
11 26 ms 26 ms 28 ms ord08s06-in-f0.1e100.net [74.125.225.32]

Trace complete.



elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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reply to The Mongoose

said by The Mongoose:

said by elwoodblues:

said by The Mongoose:

That being said, this issue of two homes with totally different experiences despite presumably being on the same node has come up before, and it's interesting. No matter what the two services are, there should be no difference so long as they're on the same profile and there's no POI congestion or weird downstream issues. I'd love to hear what, if anything, comes out of the situation elwoodblues describes.

I know I'm on McNicol, he could have been moved to Comstock,but how can I tell?

Should show up in a tracert...though sometimes the naming can confuse. Either way though, the whole node would move so it wouldn't necessarily help identify the problem. Now if it got moved to Comstock but Distributel didn't have equipment there, THAT could cause some weirdness.

I did have a conversation with one of the techs that frequent here, and he said they had no plans to move to comstock.
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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reply to TSI Marc
Tracing route to google.ca [74.125.133.94]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 14 ms 29 ms 10.140.8.129
3 15 ms 13 ms 20 ms 66.185.89.21
4 15 ms 14 ms 23 ms 24.153.5.217
5 55 ms 48 ms 47 ms gw-google.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34.6]
6 64 ms 45 ms 45 ms 216.239.47.114
7 50 ms 62 ms 62 ms 216.239.46.160
8 60 ms 73 ms 53 ms 209.85.241.22
9 73 ms 59 ms 78 ms 209.85.241.29
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 81 ms 63 ms 59 ms ia-in-f94.1e100.net [74.125.133.94]
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xdrag

join:2005-02-18
North York, ON

said by elwoodblues:

Tracing route to google.ca [74.125.133.94]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 14 ms 29 ms 10.140.8.129
3 15 ms 13 ms 20 ms 66.185.89.21
4 15 ms 14 ms 23 ms 24.153.5.217
5 55 ms 48 ms 47 ms gw-google.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34.6]
6 64 ms 45 ms 45 ms 216.239.47.114
7 50 ms 62 ms 62 ms 216.239.46.160
8 60 ms 73 ms 53 ms 209.85.241.22
9 73 ms 59 ms 78 ms 209.85.241.29
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 81 ms 63 ms 59 ms ia-in-f94.1e100.net [74.125.133.94]

That doesnt look like mcnicoll. I could be wrong but 4th hop isnt one of the 3 IPs.


elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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What else would it be? I live in Scarberia ( the most SW) besides comstock, the next POI would be Bloor (I don't see going up to york)


The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON
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said by elwoodblues:

What else would it be? I live in Scarberia ( the most SW) besides comstock, the next POI would be Bloor (I don't see going up to york)

Someone at TSI will know from the IP, I would think.


travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON

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Seriously though, OP has every right to raise a stink in public and try to get his problem solved. These direct forums can be nice for getting things done, but they also serve to try to shove problems off the public's radar. I think that's the real reason they exist, to try to head off the vocal, knowledgeable user with a problem that frequents these types of forums.

I said in another thread, and I'll say it again, TekSavvy's business model is broken. You can't be the the customer-facing entity whose business depends on the goodwill of a hostile oligopoly like Rogers or Bell or any of the other big telecoms. They can, and will, screw with you relentlessly and there's no fixing it unless you can get the CRTC to put firm rules in place to help solve these types of issues.

I know TSI people have argued that Rogers should see them as a great business partner that makes them lots of money. That might be true, but I can tell you with certainty that Rogers will never see it that way. They want those customers for themselves and TekSavvy is nothing more than a regulator-imposed nuisance.


The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON
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said by travisc:

I said in another thread, and I'll say it again, TekSavvy's business model is broken. You can't be the the customer-facing entity whose business depends on the goodwill of a hostile oligopoly like Rogers or Bell or any of the other big telecoms. They can, and will, screw with you relentlessly and there's no fixing it unless you can get the CRTC to put firm rules in place to help solve these types of issues.

And assuming the CRTC isn't going to ride to the rescue any time soon, what do you propose TSI do about this, other than what they've been doing?

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