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Davesnothere
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Re: Yea or nay on IE 8?

 
Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.

Make It So !

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Browser Layout Annoyances :

IE8 lets you put the Refresh and Stop buttons back where they belong, but IE7 does not.

There is also a registry patch available for moving the Menu bar back to above the address line, which is listed for IE7 but also works with IE8.

I use IE8 on XP SP3 and on Vista SP2 machines, and use FireFox Ver 12/13/14 but not 15, as 15 seems to have deleted the option to put the Tab Bar below the other bars at the top area.

Recent Opera is interesting too, partially as it also still can be installed onto Win2K, where, IIRC, all other recent browsers cannot.

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Mozilla removed it from the normal menus in 15 but you can restore the tabs on the bottom.

Go to about:config and copy and paste this in the search: browser.tabs.OnTop and Toggle it to False.

After a bit the option itself reappears under View - Toolbars or right clicking anywhere in the toolbar area.

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I woke up to one of those shining right through my window (the glass kind) into my eyes.

therube
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> should update to IE 8 on my system?

Yes.

Not sure if you've said, but XP?
And if XP, you can't run IE 9.

And if you have IE 8, it should be kept current - whether you use it (directly) or not. (There are plenty of uses of "IE", from Windows & third-party apps, without opening IE directly.)

Whether you have (just_about_any_program_you_wish_to_name), it should be kept current - whether you use it or not. (Well just about any program that is Net facing & regularly patched for exploits.)

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said by therube:

it should be kept current

Why is that?
New&Improved does not necessarily mean better

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> New&Improved does not necessarily mean better

In the case of IE, new (other then a new version entirely) is almost never "better".
IOW they are not adding new, or improving features of IE.

But security exploits are being fixed.
And that is why you want to keep current.

Davesnothere
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said by kickass69:

Mozilla removed it from the normal menus in 15 but you can restore the tabs on the bottom.

Go to about:config and copy and paste this in the search: browser.tabs.OnTop and Toggle it to False.

After a bit the option itself reappears under View - Toolbars or right clicking anywhere in the toolbar area.

 
Reappears as in ver 12/13/14 ?

I wish the F### that Mozilla would leave well enough alone !!!

I still am grumpy at them for removing 'Bookmark All Tabs as a Group' from the Bookmark Menu, back around version 4.0 or so. - Is there a fix for THAT in about:config ?

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said by Davesnothere:

I wish the F### that Mozilla would leave well enough alone !!!

I still am grumpy at them for removing 'Bookmark All Tabs as a Group' from the Bookmark Menu, back around version 4.0 or so. - Is there a fix for THAT in about:config ?

Bookmark All Tabs as a Group

You might be able to get it back with this add-on offered by a student in Taiwan

Why was Enable Bookmark All Tabs created?
After Firefox 4 ,Because less people are using the Bookmark All Tabs. So it has been hidden.But I love to use Bookmark All Tabswith panorama (Tab Groups), so I think it should be enable by add-on.So I download the Firefox source code, and found the way to enable the Bookmark All Tabs. And try to make an Add-On. Thanks kennyluck's teach, I will try to make more Add-On
What's next for Enable Bookmark All Tabs
Still thinking

»addons.mozilla.org/en-us ··· ll-tabs/

»howto.cnet.com/8301-1131 ··· at-once/

Davesnothere
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said by Name Game:

Bookmark All Tabs as a Group

You might be able to get it back with this add-on offered by a student in Taiwan....

 
Thanks - will investigate.

It turns out though, that if you go [ALT]+[B] rather than mousing to make the menu appear, that the FireFox Bookmark Menu looks different, and only then it INCLUDES that option.

I was hoping for a way to make it universally included.

This was ONE of the few IE functionalities with which M$ did NOT fuck, in the revisions from version 7+ forward.

However, M$ tried to remove the menues entirely.

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said by Davesnothere:

I wish the F### that Mozilla would leave well enough alone !!!

They removed "Close Window" (but "New Window" remains) from the File menu too. No idea why. Fortunately the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-W) still works.

BTW I think I'm out of ammo


Davesnothere
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Another FFFU (FireFox FuckUp) was removing the 'New Tab' from the Right-Click Tab Menu, somewhere between versions 4.0 and 12.0 (aka ver 4.8). - I actually USED that and MISS it !

Can I get it back ? (in the about:config jungle)

BTW, those holes you posted were not from bullets - They happened when Dolly Parton bumped kinda hard into a wall.

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IIRC, you can roll back to IE7. You would need to remove all KB's that installed IE8 (or) Add | Remove Programs > IE7 would be re-instated.

In the day when IE7 was released, many didn't like over IE6.

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Internet Explorer is like inviting the plague into your system.

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said by brianiscool:

Internet Explorer is like inviting the plague into your system.

Probably true for versions older than IE6, but ...

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said by brianiscool:

Internet Explorer is like inviting the plague into your system.

Yawn

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said by brianiscool:

Internet Explorer is like inviting the plague into your system.

Don't be jealous.
Think 19579823 See Profile would like to have this neon sign?


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said by jaykaykay:

I've looked for anything I can find on IE 8 but cannot find anything specific to whether I should update to IE 8 on my system? No. I don't need any lecture on using a different browser...just if updating to this specific one is wise. Is it secure, or at least as much as any MS browser can be on an updated XP and secured as much as possible, system? Any advice on this one will be appreciated. This is one of those times that I am very hesitant on fixing something that "ain't broke".

1. You don't say what version of IE you have now.
2. You DO IMHO need a lecture about using IE. Krebs-On-Security has a great explanation of why:
In a Zero-Day World, It’s Active Attacks that Matter — Krebs on Security
»krebsonsecurity.com/2012 ··· -matter/
The recent zero-day vulnerability in Internet Explorer caused many (present company included) to urge Internet users to consider surfing the Web with a different browser until Microsoft issued a patch. Microsoft did so last month, but not before experts who ought to have known better began downplaying such advice, pointing out that other browser makers have more vulnerabilities and just as much exposure to zero-day flaws.

This post examines hard data that shows why such reasoning is more emotional than factual. Unlike Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox users, IE users were exposed to active attacks against unpatched, critical vulnerabilities for months at a time over the past year and a half.

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"This post examines hard data that shows why such reasoning is more emotional than factual. Unlike Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox users, IE users were exposed to active attacks against unpatched, critical vulnerabilities for months at a time "

So, what else is new! That isn't different than what has been the case with IE forever. Sorry, but I've been around here long enough without the lecture, which is exactly why I said I didn't want it.

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We expect you to show up for Patch Tuesday from now on..40 day/night vacations and no postcards is the pits.

DownTheShore
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said by Name Game:

Are you running that on Win7? I was going to try it out back in 2010 on a laptop..but it had an amd processor that was not compatible at that time. Thanks.

»blogs.cio.com/browsers/1 ··· er-heard

Sorry for the delay. I'm running it on Vista.