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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:32:33 EDT

tonyram57 posted : I ordered myself the SB6141 from Amazon on Sunday to replace the SB5101U which is darn good modem to begin with. I want the channel bonding with the SB6141 which suppose to help with network congestion.

I have a question about the SB6141. Is it true that TWC does not push any firmware updates to it? What is your firmware version number? I don't mind asking.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:36:08 EDT

David1997 posted : Thanks jimk. The test results were for a hardwired computer. The test differences for the wireless computer are even greater (like 3 with the SB6141, and in the low 20's with the Arris). The price of the SB5101 is so low, that I might get that to use temporarily until Standard service in my area increases to 20, or the price of faster service drops.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:59:17 EDT

jimk posted : The Arris 502G is a DOCSIS 2 modem, which supports PowerBoost. This will, contrary to what TWC said, result in faster speed tests.

TWC doesn't support PowerBoost on DOCSIS 3 modems such as the SB6141. The brand doesn't have any impact.

If PowerBoost is important to you, you might want to consider the Motorola SB5101 or SB5101U. These DOCSIS 2 modems support PowerBoost, but probably aren't the best choice in the long term. Many providers are dropping PowerBoost as they increase their standard speeds.

DOCSIS 3 modems offer channel bonding, so your speeds will be more stable and less likely to degrade due to network congestion. As the standard tiers get faster, you will be more and more likely to start running into the limitations of older equipment, so I would suggest sticking with the SB6141. It is better in the long term.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:32:23 EDT

David1997 posted : I went from the Arris 502G which I am renting to the Motorola SB6141. I have standard service, and my download speed from speedtest.net dropped from about 24 with the Arris to 15 with the Motorola. Standard service is supposed to be 15. According to TW tech support level 3, the power boost would not result in download speed with the Arris on standard service in the low 20's. In fact, he said that powerboost would not effect speedtest at all. Is there something about my particular Arris that allows the faster speed, or will another Arris get the same speed? I could buy a used Arris and see, but if someone already know that could save me a few bucks. Thanks.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:46:12 EDT

jimk posted :

said by hobgoblin:

First one sounds like your promotion ending.
Postcards were sent believe me.

Hob

Depends on where you live, and possibly when your bill cycle date was. I received my postcard after the bill came with the new modem fee. The only advance notice I had was from this forum.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:45:57 EDT

Mele20 posted : NO. There was NO notice one month in advance on my TWC bill. The bill came, payable when it arrived, and it had the increase on it. THERE WAS NO NOTICE ON THE PREVIOUS BILL.

Stop saying there was prior notification. If there was in YOUR division then you should be accurate and state what division you are in and speak only for your division. In my division there was NO prior notice.
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:28:26 EDT

Fleeced posted : There was also a notice on your bill a month before they even added these.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:50:08 EDT

Mele20 posted : Maybe in YOUR division postcards were sent. In my division we just got our monthly bill with the increase on the bill. It is always that way here. It would have been a shock had I not been reading this forum.
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:13:10 EDT

hobgoblin posted :

said by peteyz24:

I never recieved a post card or anything. One month my rr standard went from 29.99 to 39.99. about 2 months later my bill was 44.14 when they added the modem fee

First one sounds like your promotion ending.
Postcards were sent believe me.

Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:58:22 EDT

peteyz24 posted : I never recieved a post card or anything. One month my rr standard went from 29.99 to 39.99. about 2 months later my bill was 44.14 when they added the modem fee

Re: postcard modem lease

Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:21:05 EDT

Racerbob posted :

said by gmlefty :

If i buy my own modem/router shouldn't they drop both these fees??

Yes.

Re: postcard modem lease

Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:07:45 EDT

anon posted : TWC In Dayton Ohio now charges 4.95 modem and 3.95 router fee on my monthly bill. This is to provide WIFI.
This is almost $9 per month for WIFI.!!
If i buy my own modem/router shouldn't they drop both these fees??

Re: postcard modem lease

Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:54:50 EDT

anon posted : Just received my postcard from TWC on the 26th, announcing the $3.95 modem lease fee. My internet fee is not being lowered. New increase is actually $4.23/ month, effective immediately on monthly bill received today! Even worse is the fact that the Motorola SB5100 installed 18 months ago by a "qualified" Time Warner installer is not approved for Turbo internet.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:29:01 EDT

hobgoblin posted : "It was placed on the approved list in the last few days, along with several other additions. The comments about the SB6121 in posts above were when it was not yet on the approved list."

Yes...I made a number of posts about the 6121 which should be ignored!

Hob
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:23:50 EDT

Gemutlich posted :

said by docyahoo:

Still planning on purchasing, probably the 6141 [future-proofing]; just wondering why everyone is worried about the 6121 though? This may be a recent change, but they have it listed as approved for ALL tiers at twc.com/approveddevices.

It was placed on the approved list in the last few days, along with several other additions. The comments about the SB6121 in posts above were when it was not yet on the approved list.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:07:56 EDT

Konaguy posted : I have DOCSIS 2.0/eMTA and a Motorola SB6141 D3 cable modem connected through a splitter. Oceanic Time Warner didn't have any D3 eMTA/Cable modems at the time, so I had to do it this way when I upgraded to 20/2Mbps service.

Oceanic received Arris D3 eMTA/Cable Modem/ Wireless Router after I upgraded to the new tier though.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:50:31 EDT

docyahoo posted : Just got my $3.95 modem lease fee line item postcard in the mail today. For anyone who hasn't seen the postcard, mine also says "based on your current service level and monthly rate, your Standard Internet Service price will be reduced by $3.95 per month." At least it wasn't a "tack-on" cost...

Still planning on purchasing, probably the 6141 [future-proofing]; just wondering why everyone is worried about the 6121 though? This may be a recent change, but they have it listed as approved for ALL tiers at twc.com/approveddevices.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:28:03 EDT

raphaeltee posted : Today -- nearly two weeks later -- I got a service call.

The modem, which had been provisioned, kept on rebooting. Turns out I had a bad splitter, despite having paid a premium for it at Staples. Tech installed a new one (free of charge) and was out in twenty minutes.

Service is noticeably faster. Also relieved since in the back of my mind I was afraid the tech would show up and try to tell me the 6121 wasn't acceptable.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:01:15 EDT

anon posted : Just collected the mail from the mailbox tonight and I have a postcard from TWC saying they'll start charging me here in NC $3.95/mth for my "modem" that I bought 9 years ago. Nothing on the card about how to contact anybody [why would they communicate info on how to communicate with a communications company? :( ] I have their digital phone & internet connection (no TV). So I looked online & found this thread. Who do I call to make sure I keep my VoIP & Internet both; are any of their approved "modems" capable of both? I usually get 20+/1 on this nearly decade old modem (I'm less than a half mile from their main switch for this area). I won't pay $4/m.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:06:39 EDT

anon posted : I purchased a SB6141 on eBay for $100 a couple weeks ago just before the prices spiked, and installed it 2 days ago. It took about 15 mins total after calling TWC 800 Customer Support to get provisioned. The L1 Tech took all my information, (account, model, MAC) and plugged it into the system and said it was done. I was unable to connect to the internet, so she passed me to L3, where a very nice and knowlegable Tech said one step had been missed, which he corrected immediately. I'm now seeing consistant 20/2 speeds, which previously varied by a wide margin with TWC's ubee U10C018.80. I'm still doing periodic d/l and u/l tests to see if I'm going to keep the SB6141 before I take the ubee back to TW and stop paying the rental fee. I'm in NC and our rate is going up to $3.95/mo.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:20:43 EDT

tragik74 posted : i got SB6141 from amazon too, it took me 10min with level 3 support. and the speed is not inscrease, just stablized at 10/1 with any jump or drop

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:09:27 EDT

anon posted : I got my SB6141 thru Amazon. I just installed it with tier 3- over the phone and chat - It took them two hours - so be prepared. Also, Amazon has pretty good return policy, they even pay UPS shipping back.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:06:58 EDT

Fleeced posted :

said by mystycs:

I was getting 20/1 on a Ubee U10C018. Then i bought a new SB6141 and now its 10/1? Any ideas about this guys?

You went to a Docsis 3 modem. Your Turbo boost that you were getting before (That shows up in speedtests) is no longer active, so you're only get the standard internet, which is 10/1.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:16:42 EDT

raphaeltee posted : I called last Friday with the MAC address of my 6121 & was told I'd be called within 72 hours to have it provisioned. On Tuesday I still hadn't heard back, so I "chatted" with a representative and asked him please to get it done.

Heard nothing -- and anxious that they would levy the charge, I called yesterday afternoon & waited 20 minutes for someone to get through to "the local office." Finally I was "put through" and started to give another, rather ignorant-sounding grunt of a woman the MAC address. Then she told me in 72 hours, the modem would be provisioned. I started say, "No, no, NO" and she started asking me if I'd filled out a form Q54TH or something. Not quite flying into a rage, I demanded to speak to her supervisor -- she came back on the line 5 minutes later to tell me her supervisor would call me back, which naturally, never happened.

I called the TWC help number once again and somehow got put through to a national help desk line -- a sort of automatic phone line escalation, if I had to guess. I wasn't really thrilled about spending another half an hour on the phone, but at least the woman seemed competent. She said she would see to it the modem was provisioned, and that someone would call me in an hour or so.

Naturally, no one called back last night. I've just spent another three quarters of an hour with another woman on the national help desk line who told me that the modem has now been provisioned. We went through connecting and disconnecting it, only to find that the modem cannot sustain a connection and keeps rebooting. She arranged a service appointment.

My guess at this point after a week of delays, including approximately three hours on the phone is that my little corner of Brooklyn is not outfitted to handle Docsis 3.0 -- this miserable little timewasting scenario sure smells like someone isn't leveling with me

Of course, I was insistent that they not charge me the modem fee since I'm almost certain they will not have this sorted out by Monday when the fee goes into effect -- of course, the woman said "Oh no, of course we won't. And you will not be charged for the service appointment, either."

Who wants to bet me they charge me anyway?

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:54:24 EDT

mystycs posted : I was getting 20/1 on a Ubee U10C018. Then i bought a new SB6141 and now its 10/1? Any ideas about this guys?

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:40:43 EDT

Fleeced posted : You can always bridge the 6580 to act like a modem if you can't get another brand of modem (The 6580s had terrible firmware issues for a while). There's other versions, most newer model gateway modems have a way to bridge them.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:13:48 EDT

grayknight posted :

said by raphaeltee:

said by mackey:

said by rayfield :

Anyone want to give odds on them giving me trouble? I'm on the Standard tier.

A SB6121 is fine for the Standard tier, but you won't be able to use it for Extreme or Ultimate.

/M

Thanks. I finally took a look at the modem: I've got a landline through TWC as well. Unless I'm misreading the TWC "help" and list of supported devices, the only way I can continue to get phone service is through one of *their* devices. Guess I will have to get VOIP for my landline through a third party. Which sucks also.

It's true that if you have phone service with TWC, you'll get to keep what modem they provided you. BUT you can still go an buy your own modem and not get charged the fee. What they will do is when you call in to get the new modem provisioned, they'll disable the ethernet on the original modem.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:07:13 EDT

jeblis posted :

said by vondy:

Well of course I tried to purchase the SB6141 on Amazon but they are out of stock. I've looked everywhere else and it doesn't seem like anyone actually has or ever has sold it.

They had them in stock last Thursday for $120. There's just a surge in demand right now. You may need to pay the rental fee for a month or two until they are available again.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:47:11 EDT

mackey posted :

said by vondy:

Turns out the Motorola SB6141 and the SBG6580 are the only two in Texas that are "certified". Well of course I tried to purchase the SB6141 on Amazon but they are out of stock. I've looked everywhere else and it doesn't seem like anyone actually has or ever has sold it. The SBG6580 is available but I don't need the WIFI because I already have an airport extreme.

I bought one from these guys a couple weeks ago when they were still $99. Although you can find a few auctions in the $150 range, at this point unless you're on the Extreme or Ultimate tier you're better off getting a cheap D2 modem and holding off on the 6141 for a few months.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:30:18 EDT

Wilsdom posted : my wife threw away the box for the 6141 so I doubt Amazon is going to take it back.

You can try making the same "mistake" on the phone...

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:10:52 EDT

vondy posted : Looks like I picked the wrong week to get Time Warner. I purchased the Motorola SB6121 from Amazon after I called TWC to instal my cable. The guy on the phone said any cable Docsis 3.0 modem would work. Well apparently that was not the case when the installer showed up. He installed the TWC modem and I spent the rest of the day on the phone trying to figure out what to do.

Turns out the Motorola SB6141 and the SBG6580 are the only two in Texas that are "certified". Well of course I tried to purchase the SB6141 on Amazon but they are out of stock. I've looked everywhere else and it doesn't seem like anyone actually has or ever has sold it. The SBG6580 is available but I don't need the WIFI because I already have an airport extreme.

What do you guys think? Wait around for the 6141 to become available, if ever, or get the wifi version and eat the extra cost.

Oh and to make matters worse, my wife threw away the box for the 6141 so I doubt Amazon is going to take it back.

Anyway, at least my internet is now about 5-10 times faster than my AT&T DSL.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:47:49 EDT

raphaeltee posted :

said by mackey:

said by rayfield :

Anyone want to give odds on them giving me trouble? I'm on the Standard tier.

A SB6121 is fine for the Standard tier, but you won't be able to use it for Extreme or Ultimate.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:04:44 EDT

mackey posted :

said by rayfield :

Anyone want to give odds on them giving me trouble? I'm on the Standard tier.

A SB6121 is fine for the Standard tier, but you won't be able to use it for Extreme or Ultimate.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:18:36 EDT

anon posted : Last week I bought the SB6121 by accident -- after checking the list of "approved" modems, I plugged "SB6141" into a search at NewEgg, and it spit out the SB6121 at me, and I went ahead and bought it. I didn't realize until this morning that I'd gotten the wrong one. Not really sure I'm willing to shell out $130 for the SB6141 in any case.

But when I called TWC yesterday to ask for the provisioning, the operator didn't blink when I gave her the model number along with the MAC address, though that doesn't prove much. She told me "someone from IT" would be calling me in a few days. Anyone want to give odds on them giving me trouble? I'm on the Standard tier.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:48:13 EDT

bghs posted :

said by SteveNYC:

Have you guys seen everyone bumping up the price of the SB6141? Amazon's price went from like $109 to $124 and the only other place I've seen is eBay where they're going for something around $150 to $200.

I called to activate my 6120 with TWC last night. They first asked where I bought it (yes, really, that was the first question). Then they asked what model it was. I said 6141. I don't want to listen to their nonsense about how it can't be a 6120 because it has to be a 6141. It's DOCSIS 3.0. Then they asked for the MAC ID. Then I had to laugh when they said it would take up to 3 days for the MAC to be put in the system. If it's not connected when I get home, I'll call Tier 3 tech support. They're usually good if you get a supervisor.

They're worse than the government and that's saying something because I actually work for the government! I know how bad we are!

Wow, glad I bought my 6141 a few weeks back.

Im planning on getting standard tier, then upgrading to extreme. Ill note any stupid questions they ask.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:42:33 EDT

SteveNYC posted : Have you guys seen everyone bumping up the price of the SB6141? Amazon's price went from like $109 to $124 and the only other place I've seen is eBay where they're going for something around $150 to $200.

I called to activate my 6120 with TWC last night. They first asked where I bought it (yes, really, that was the first question). Then they asked what model it was. I said 6141. I don't want to listen to their nonsense about how it can't be a 6120 because it has to be a 6141. It's DOCSIS 3.0. Then they asked for the MAC ID. Then I had to laugh when they said it would take up to 3 days for the MAC to be put in the system. If it's not connected when I get home, I'll call Tier 3 tech support. They're usually good if you get a supervisor.

They're worse than the government and that's saying something because I actually work for the government! I know how bad we are!

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:45:21 EDT

mackey posted : No, no technical reason, they just have it disabled in the modem config file.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:16:04 EDT

anon posted : "Dear Time Warner Cable Customer:

As of Oct. 15, 2012 an internet modem lease fee will be applied to Time Warner Cable provided internet modems at a rate of $3.95 per month."

I live in brooklyn. F TWC. I am going to buy a 6141, not paying these thieves any more money.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:49:00 EDT

Dampier posted :

said by mackey:

No, you will not see a speed increase unless you're on a congested node. In fact, you'll most likely lose speed (assuming you currently have a D2 modem) as most TWC divisions do not allow Power Boost on D3 equipment.

Is there any technical reason for this? I was aware my 30/5 service would never have PowerBoost, but I didn't really care. But why should someone with a D3 modem provisioned for 10/1 standard service also lose this?
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:22:17 EDT

vvilliamm posted : um i have a 6120 modem on my 30/5 connection 0.0 maybe i got lucky?

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:22:07 EDT

swintec posted :

said by mackey:

Are you sure about that? My (limited) research shows the 6121 uses a Broadcom chip whereas the 6120 and 6141 use a TI chip.

»www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Vid···S-EN.pdf

From the 2nd page:
"Benefits:
Easily add the SB6141
to a deployed family of
SB6120s and SB6121s,
all three models utilize
the same firmware
image. This reduces
qualification time
for an Operator and
eliminates configuration
management headaches."
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:15:31 EDT

mackey posted :

said by swintec:

said by mackey:

Sorry, the SB6121 is NOT approved by TWC.

Which is odd to me since both the 6121 and the 6141 use the same software versions, one would expect they would both run the same on the network.

Are you sure about that? My (limited) research shows the 6121 uses a Broadcom chip whereas the 6120 and 6141 use a TI chip.

As far as TWC not approving the 6120 and 6121, I'm assuming it's an administrative prohibition. Even though it does bonding, it only bonds 4 channels. With 38 Mbps channels, someone on the Ultimate (50) tier will be using almost 50% of all 4 channels by themselves. That's not gonna play nice with D2 equipment also trying to use those channels!

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:30:18 EDT

swintec posted :

said by mackey:

Sorry, the SB6121 is NOT approved by TWC.

Which is odd to me since both the 6121 and the 6141 use the same software versions, one would expect they would both run the same on the network. This is eventually what has allowed comcast users to start owning the 6141, since that model was never on their allowed list.
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Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 10:02:06 EDT

mackey posted :

said by ericn32:

Also, you might not need the SB6141. It bonds up to 8 channels, giving you about 300 Mbps throughput. The SB6121 bonds 4, giving you about 150 throughput. If you don't think you'll ever want more than 150 Mbps during the life of the router, you just need the SB6121, which retails for $80 on Amazon.

Sorry, the SB6121 is NOT approved by TWC. People have reported here that they were able to talk TWC into provisioning it for the Standard tier, but TWC will NOT provision it for use with the Extreme (30) or Ultimate (50) tiers. Either save your money and get a cheap D2 modem, or spend the extra $20 and get the approved SB6141.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:28:19 EDT

motorola870 posted :

said by ericn32:

By the way, there's a new discussion about the Modem Fee going up to $3.95 per month. I've been eyeing the SB6141, and expect a 25-month ROI.
About the increased speed - here's how it works (correct me if I'm wrong).
Each cable channel gives you about 38 Mbps, and when you're tuned to one channel that's almost fully used, and another has open capacity, the modem has to tune to the other channel to use the available bandwidth. With DOCSIS 3.0, you can tune to 8 channels at once and get bandwidth from all of them, up to your 10 Mbps cap. I imagine that this would deliver more consistent bandwidth.
Also, you might not need the SB6141. It bonds up to 8 channels, giving you about 300 Mbps throughput. The SB6121 bonds 4, giving you about 150 throughput. If you don't think you'll ever want more than 150 Mbps during the life of the router, you just need the SB6121, which retails for $80 on Amazon.
You could also get a DOCSIS 2.0 modem, which are cheaper and most similar to the DCM425 and won't perform any better/worse, just make sure to get one that's DOCSIS 2.0+IPv6 certified. Now would be a bad time to invest in IPv4 equipment.

actually I would not recommend getting a DOCSIS 2.0 modem simply because they will probably EOL'd by the end of 2013 or 2014 the way things are going. TWC in Dallas already has bonding on the upstreams we are the third or fourth cluster to get upstream bonding behind NY, and Hawaii.

I am betting an upstream speed increase is in my future soon now that I am bonding four upstreams.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:54:53 EDT

ericn32 posted : By the way, there's a new discussion about the Modem Fee going up to $3.95 per month. I've been eyeing the SB6141, and expect a 25-month ROI.
About the increased speed - here's how it works (correct me if I'm wrong).
Each cable channel gives you about 38 Mbps, and when you're tuned to one channel that's almost fully used, and another has open capacity, the modem has to tune to the other channel to use the available bandwidth. With DOCSIS 3.0, you can tune to 8 channels at once and get bandwidth from all of them, up to your 10 Mbps cap. I imagine that this would deliver more consistent bandwidth.
Also, you might not need the SB6141. It bonds up to 8 channels, giving you about 300 Mbps throughput. The SB6121 bonds 4, giving you about 150 throughput. If you don't think you'll ever want more than 150 Mbps during the life of the router, you just need the SB6121, which retails for $80 on Amazon.
You could also get a DOCSIS 2.0 modem, which are cheaper and most similar to the DCM425 and won't perform any better/worse, just make sure to get one that's DOCSIS 2.0+IPv6 certified. Now would be a bad time to invest in IPv4 equipment.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:59:03 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by shade45:

So i shouldn't buy the Motorola SB6141 and it will be waste of money? Should i just keep paying $2.50 per month then?

Thanks

This is the first time I heard monthly fee $2.50 for internet modems in NYC area, I know I don't. If you are paying monthly fee for your modem, do not buy a modem instead go to a TWC local office and ask/exchange for a D3 modem, you deserve to have one if they are charging you monthly for it.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:34:25 EDT

mackey posted :

said by shade45:

Why did you say i will lose the speed? i'm on RCA DCM425 DOCSIS 1 modem that time warner provided for $2.50 per month.

Like I said, you'll probably lose Power Boost if you switch to a D3 modem. »[TWC] No more perboost? A quick Googling shows that's actually a DOCSIS 2 modem.

As for rent vs buy, that's all up to you. I personally just bought a SB6141 even though they're not charging me a rental fee as I'm not getting Power Boost as it is and am planning on upgrading to the 30/5 "Extreme" tier soon and didn't want their crappy all-in-one gateway they insist on providing.

/M

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:22:26 EDT

Gemutlich posted : I debated the same thing in my mind a while back. I figured it would take about 3.5 years at $2.50/month to pay back the price of a new SB6141, and they may be cheaper at that time or newer technology come along. Plus I wasn't sure if I would even stay with TWC for 3.5 years. The D2 modem I'm using with my own router is working OK.

Re: [TWC] RR Standard with Motorola SB6141 Speed Increase?

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:57:34 EDT

swintec posted : In general I think yuo will see more CONSISTENT overall speeds for extended downloads. If you just browse the web and stuff I do not think you will see better speeds.
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