 DampierPhillip M Dampier join:2003-03-23 Rochester, NY | reply to txanon
Re: [TWC] Virtually All TWC Customers Face $3.95 Modem Rental Fe said by txanon :my last payment was due oct 15 and the service period says 10/5 to 11/04
it said on the bill that they will start charging me a lease fee of $3.95 starting the next bill
i already activated my own modem yesterday and returned my old modem today..
will i be charged $3.95 on the next bill? Probably not. Otherwise they would have charged you even before they notified you there would be a charge. -- Phillip M. Dampier Editor, Stop the Cap! »stopthecap.com |
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 kontosxyzzy join:2001-10-04 West Henrietta, NY | reply to Dampier Anybody know if it is possible to get away with having a compatible, but not-approved modem activated by TW? |
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 | said by kontos:Anybody know if it is possible to get away with having a compatible, but not-approved modem activated by TW? you can always try
when i activated my sb5101, the tech asked me what my modem model was and if it was docsis 2.0 or 3.0
so you can try lying, but at least have the same docsis version |
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 Elyria join:2011-10-12 Elyria, OH | Might be worth a shot, giving them a legit model number with the non-legit MAC-ID and see what happens once they hit the modem with the provisioning code.
Have no idea if they can "see" an actual model number.
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:9 1 edit | said by Elyria: Have no idea if they can "see" an actual model number. Yes they can see the actual make and model number, along with serial number and the exact version of firmware on the modem among other things.
It's all part of the DOCSIS spec and is done through SNMP. Look at the SP-OSSI documents: »www.cablelabs.com/cablemodem/spe···s30.html -- If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes. |
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 Elyria join:2011-10-12 Elyria, OH | Very well Drew. Guess there's not much getting away with hardware. Limited choices to own, but can cetainly understand the providors position. Can only imagine the headaches trying to trouble shoot some micky-fied model 388 super watchacallit. |
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 kontosxyzzy join:2001-10-04 West Henrietta, NY | reply to DrDrew said by DrDrew:said by Elyria: Have no idea if they can "see" an actual model number. Yes they can see the actual make and model number, along with serial number and the exact version of firmware on the modem among other things. Oh, I never thought for a second that they couldn't see details on the modem when it was in use. It was more of a question of does their system bother to check when the modem is activated by customer service. |
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 scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC kudos:2 | reply to Dampier Got the post card yesterday about the upcoming modem lease fee . Thinking about how I want to deal wth it - right now I'm leaning towards getting a used 5101 that will ROI in 6 months (I'm on 10/1 service). |
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| reply to hottboiinnc said by hottboiinnc:And with any 3rd provider costs are normally higher than with the actual last mile owner.- look at the cost of DSL. Indeed, do! I pay $19.97 for the DSL portion of my phone bill.
$20 for 15M ADSL2+ beats the snot out of $65 for 15M DOCSIS. Why would I pay an extra $45 to double my upload speed? -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| reply to Steve Mehs said by Steve Mehs:As for the prices of DSL, sorry, I dont keep up with outdated and obsolete technology. I dont go online and look at what blank audio cassette tapes are selling for these days, and I definitely dont look at whats going on in the dead land of DSL. Fair enough. But some people still prefer sail over power, some people still prefer archery over firearms, and some people would rather pay under $20 for outdated and obsolete tech; and apply the difference (can be as much as $25 a month in Comcastland!) to other, more pleasurable, things. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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 Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium join:2005-07-16 | And if you live less than a few feet away from the CO your 15Mb speed drops like a rock. DSL is an old outdated technology that has no place in the modern world. Craprizon is my phone company, living in a rural area 10-15 miles from the CO meant no chance of DSL
until remote terminals came about in around 2006. My aunt who lives around the corner, whose house I can see out my back window, can get Craprizons DSL via a remote terminal. I cannot, why I dont know, but I do not care. The max speed she can get is 1.5Mb downstream. I cant live with anything less than my 50Mb Wideband.
Last Sunday I went into work for a few hours, to take care of some stuff. We have a 1.5Mb connection. I brought in my tablet so I could stream some NFL Sunday Ticket and Red Zone. That lame 1.5Mb connection couldnt even stream my football without buffering every few seconds. When people ask me to clean out their computers, I usually do a reformat, but always take their towers at home. Even at a 10 or 20 Mb connection, do you have any idea how much faster it is just to download a few years worth of updates with a 50Mb connection versus whatever they have.
I can just imagine the typical DSL connection completely choking while I stream DirecTV Red Zone on one tablet with the DirecTV app, NFL Red Zone using the TW app on the other tablet, while downloading 10 years worth of update to the neighbors Window XP machine while other things are going on, on my network. With over 20 internet enabled devices in my network, I cannot imagine slooooooooooooooow DSL being much fun to put up with. -- For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track. |
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| reply to Steve Mehs said by Steve Mehs:As for the prices of DSL, sorry, I dont keep up with outdated and obsolete technology. I dont go online and look at what blank audio cassette tapes are selling for these days, and I definitely dont look at whats going on in the dead land of DSL.
None of what you said applies to me personally. Time Warner has no caps, as a Signature Home customer it appears Ill be exempt from the lease fee, and I have no desire to host a server. Hear, hear my good man!
I would certainly understand if a Signature Home customer might also wonder why the little people were taking mass transit (or even a personal wheeled vehicle) across town when they could take a limousine or helicopter instead. Seems rather silly, don't you think, to concentrate on the price of an item when there's so much money available to satisfy our every whim?
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 Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium join:2005-07-16 | I'd rather take my Lincoln SUV around town then take a private helicopter. My Lincoln probably has a better audio system |
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| reply to Steve Mehs said by Steve Mehs:And if you live less more than a few feet away from the CO your 15Mb speed drops like a rock. I think you meant to type ... and at 9,156 feet my mother still gets 4.8Mb/s.
DSL is an old outdated technology that has no place in the modern world. Damned if I am going to pay $50 a month for cable Internet. I will do with dial-up, or do without; absent "outdated and obsolescent" DSL technology.
Craprizon is my phone company ... I cant live with anything less than my 50Mb Wideband. Some of us (more than a few of us) can live without 50Mb/s Wideband. And we have the choice with DSL technology.
Last Sunday I went into work for a few hours, to take care of some stuff. We have a 1.5Mb connection. I brought in my tablet so I could stream some NFL Sunday Ticket and Red Zone ... I can absolutely live without NFL, MLB, and the rest.
... With over 20 internet enabled devices in my network, I cannot imagine slooooooooooooooow DSL being much fun to put up with. I can't imagine having over twenty Internet connected devices; even in the 2200 sq. ft. "mansion" I had been living in, much less my current studio apartment! -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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 Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium join:2005-07-16 | Yes, I meant more. Thank you. Sorry, 5Mb is unacceptable for almost 2013. Considering all you have to do is read the front page of this very biased anti-cable site to see stories about the telcos bleeding DSL subscribers to the cable companies, its pretty obvious that people want more speed and are dumping DSL in droves for cable broadband. And the lame telcos like A Fee&Fee and Craprizon are completely abandoning their DSL infrastructure to focus on their extremely low capped wireless services. As a sports fanatic (NFL, NHL, MLB, NASCAR, some NCAA football and trying to get into the UFC), I cannot live without both TV and online access to my favorite teams, players and drivers. Its really not much out of ordinary to have 20 internet devices, considering just about every electronic device you buy these days is wifi enabled or has an Ethernet jack. I miscounted, I actually have only 19 internet enabled devices. Two desktops, laptop, TV, two blu ray players, A/V Receiver, Xbox 360, PS3, two tablets, smartphone, MP3 Player, two DirecTV DVRs, Sprint Airave, two ancient Windows Pocket PCs, internet enabled printer. -- For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track. |
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 Pervis join:2011-04-07 Chapel Hill, NC 1 edit | reply to Dampier Well, I just got the postcard (TWC-NC) and it says that the internet service price will be reduced by a corresponding $3.95 so it's a wash. Still, I'd rather own my own equipment. What is the group consensus for the best one to buy?
Oh, I currently have standard Road Runner service with a Motorola SURFboard SB5101 modem. |
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| said by Pervis:What is the group consensus for the best one to buy? Some tech info on SB6141 problems in this thread: »Re: Best DOCSIS 3.0 Equip?
It's not worth it for me to buy DOCSIS 3 due to high demand right now. -- USNG: 16TDN2870 Find your USNG coordinates: USNGWeb |
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 scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC kudos:2 | reply to Pervis Yeah mine said the same - and yes -I'm currently using a SB5101U also.
I don't see paying for more speed for awhile, anyway, so the 10 M DOCSIS 2 should be plenty fast enough for now. |
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| reply to Steve Mehs said by Steve Mehs:Sorry, 5Mb is unacceptable for almost 2013. The year is irrelevant. And 5Mb/s is an acceptable alternative to surrendering my first born son AND left nut for "blazing fast" cable Internet.
We aren't all millionaires with Porsches and Jaguars. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY kudos:8 | reply to Steve Mehs " I miscounted, I actually have only 19 internet enabled devices. Two desktops, laptop, TV, two blu ray players, A/V Receiver, Xbox 360, PS3, two tablets, smartphone, MP3 Player, two DirecTV DVRs, Sprint Airave, two ancient Windows Pocket PCs, internet enabled printer."
You are using them all at the same time?
Hob -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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