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Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:17:26 EDT

DarnellP posted :

From your comment it seems that you don't know what your talking about. Bailed on wimax? lol

No, he usually doesn't know what he's talking about though he likes to pretend he does. He's got some kind of weird obsession against Sprint.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:41:58 EDT

JamesPC posted :

said by hottboiinnc:

Sprint will run out of cash and that's their limit. Sprint never was focused enough to start off with. If they would have been busy doing this to start off with they'd be in a better postion than they are now. They bailed on WiMax before it was even off the ground. They launched what? 2 Cities before killing the idea and selling everything? They then played the wait and see game and now that got them no where. Sprint should have been behind CLEAR and pushing out their WiMax service and killing everyone on that, they could have easily deployed a full size national WiMax network by now instead of in the hand full of cities that they are in.

And i know TMO has MVNOs on their network, but not to the size of Sprint.

From your comment it seems that you don't know what your talking about. Bailed on wimax? lol

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:40:56 EDT

iansltx posted : You can't run a nationwide mobile network on 2500Mhz. Clear/Sprint learned this the hard way.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:26:19 EDT

Jim Kirk posted : Sprint launched WiMAX in a hell of a lot more than 2 cities, bub.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:53:50 EDT

hottboiinnc posted : Sprint will run out of cash and that's their limit. Sprint never was focused enough to start off with. If they would have been busy doing this to start off with they'd be in a better postion than they are now. They bailed on WiMax before it was even off the ground. They launched what? 2 Cities before killing the idea and selling everything? They then played the wait and see game and now that got them no where. Sprint should have been behind CLEAR and pushing out their WiMax service and killing everyone on that, they could have easily deployed a full size national WiMax network by now instead of in the hand full of cities that they are in.

And i know TMO has MVNOs on their network, but not to the size of Sprint.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:46:55 EDT

iansltx posted : ...and not focused enough on what?

Sprint's network build-out is limited by the speed at which its contractors/subcontractors are working. You're seeing 200+ sites getting upgrades of some kind per week now (counting new Network Vision sites or upgrades to support another tech out of the pool of 3G, 1x800 or LTE), and that number will keep on increasing as the rollout gains momentum. Sprint doesn't have the network it needs to be competitive right now, but in a few months it will be competitive with AT&T on LTE footprint, with parity with Verizon and T-Mobile (TMo will probably outrun Sprint initially due to backhaul setups) eventually.

FWIW T-Mobile has MVNOs of its own. SIMple Mobile etc.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:15:17 EDT

hottboiinnc posted : i refer people to the Sprint and VZW network- especially since on Sprint's side you can roam now. I have told people also to get ST sims and use TMO. Or just TMO directly.

But i see TMO out doing Sprint- Sprint is too focused on their MVNOs.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:16:20 EDT

hottboiinnc posted : kiosks cost money. There is no point in having them, especially Corp owned when you can find a dealer that will manage them for you. Especially the gas stations and the payment center stores that offer ever carrier under the sun, or even Best Buy. It makes much more sense from a busienss stand point to move to dealers and allow the company as a whole to focus their money in places it makes sense. That is why a good share of the CLEAR "stores" are dealers, especially in the malls. Sign master agreements with these companies and let them have at it- the same as DELL did with their "new" stores. Which by the way are closing after Christmas.

Re: Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:14:05 EDT

ltecajun posted : Even for those that can't get postpaid the fact that someone can go to Walmart and get Straighttalk or similar MVNO's on those networks causes even more pressure on the little guys. I myself have recommended Straighttalk on the AT&T network due to very good coverage around here.

Metro PCS (and the competive market).

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:50:37 EDT

IowaCowboy posted : The Metro PCS kiosk at the Eastfield Mall (Springfield, MA) and the Holyoke Mall (Holyoke, MA) went out of business recently. The deal is that they can't compete with AT&T and Verizon (which have much better coverage). Also, the big carriers have been much more lenient with credit checks as some people I know with bad credit got approved with no deposit on one of the major carriers (not an MVNO) so the alternative carrier market is declining. Pocket wireless (which took low credit customers) already folded and got acquired by Metro PCS. And they are competing with the free SafeLink cell phones (which I would not take even if I was eligible).

I am happy with my Verizon iPhone and look forward to upgrading to iPhone 5 when I am eligible for an upgrade. I recently added mom and grandma to my Verizon plan (even though they have dumb phones).

The fact that Verizon has been approving low credit customers (at least the ones I know of) with no deposit is that they don't want to lose the sale to a competitor.
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