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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:21:24 EDT

cymraeg posted : for a long time i have missed muti, since cata started it just wasn't fun to play for me. thankfully it is fun again now, i like the dispatch mechanic, it will help new rogues with the spec too. the BnB of muti was FoK now you get it at 66, which makes the quality of life for later leveling in dungeons more fun to me,
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:09:44 EDT

Venom1 posted : /wrists

for serious?!?!? WTF blizz, a glancing blow on myself!!!! Oh, COME ON!!!!

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:51:16 EDT

Immer posted :

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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:24:52 EDT

Curious1 posted :

said by Nick D:

All I know is our combat rogue is tearing it up with a fist/axe combo.

I have been pretty decent lately too, my spec is sub and have been doing between 65-75k ish dps.Boss fight in seige of nizhau temple pushed upto 85k

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:01:42 EDT

Nick D posted : All I know is our combat rogue is tearing it up with a fist/axe combo.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:58:23 EDT

Pryck posted : I understand either dual (fists, maces, or swords) are acceptable and so is a fist/dagger or dagger with any combination listed previously but has anyone found dual slower weapons (2.6) with comparable ilvl yields higher damage than the other option?

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:15:36 EDT

Skittles posted :

said by bTU:

said by Nick D:

Fist/dagger is also acceptable.

Basically go with whatever the highest ilvl is for the offhand slot.

One thing I am looking at is when I get to exalted with Klaxxi they have a 463 1.8 speed dagger and a 463 2.8 speed mace. Not sure which I should pick up for my OH as combat. I have a 476 sword for MH. Or is it worth it to grab two daggers and go muti/sub? I have considered the mace for OH just because I am human and get the expertise racial buff for swords and maces.

I'd probably take mace, with human racial plus the change to combat potency I think thats your best bet.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:55:16 EDT

bTU posted :

said by Nick D:

Fist/dagger is also acceptable.

Basically go with whatever the highest ilvl is for the offhand slot.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:51:58 EDT

Nick D posted : Yes, sorry, that was unclear.

Highest ilvl slow weapon (which should be the highest top-end damage) in the main hand.

Highest ilvl of either slow weapon or dagger in the offhand.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:46:03 EDT

djlar posted : Highest end damage weapon goes in the main hand, because most abilities are tied to main hand damage, say main gauche causes a double main hand attack...

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:35:05 EDT

Nick D posted : Fist/dagger is also acceptable.

Basically go with whatever the highest ilvl is for the offhand slot.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:25:55 EDT

Pryck posted : Having two 2.6 speed weapons (MH & OH) for combat is ok? I must have missed a change to that somewhere along the way. I have been running fist/dagger combination; I will swap to both fists tonight!

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:07:21 EDT

Skittles posted : agree with bTu, I have 2 476 fist weapons and Im a capped enchanter, I can do windsong for nothing and thats what Im running on both.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:40:39 EDT

bTU posted :

said by Curious1:

What enchant would you guys recommend for a sub rogue besides dancing steel (price is at 9k per enahcnt for this on my server)? I currently am using windsong.

sorry mentioned addon instead of enchant..

Mostly for affordability I have double windsong, but my MH is 476 and OH is still a blue 450 so 10k enchants just are not logical for them.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:14:05 EDT

Curious1 posted :

said by Skittles:

here is a mirro site that you should be able to open from work:

»shadowpanther.home.comcast.net/~···panther/

hope that helps.

websensed :(

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:46:24 EDT

Skittles posted : here is a mirro site that you should be able to open from work:

»shadowpanther.home.comcast.net/~···panther/

hope that helps.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:29:32 EDT

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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:08:09 EDT

Curious1 posted : What enchant would you guys recommend for a sub rogue besides dancing steel (price is at 9k per enahcnt for this on my server)? I currently am using windsong.

sorry mentioned addon instead of enchant..

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:17:10 EDT

Curious1 posted : Man , sliceCommander addon rocks !! no more having to look left n then right , all info in one place LOVE it !!! thank you :)

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:38:06 EDT

mettachain posted : i don't like dueling either.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:33:52 EDT

Nick D posted : I'd like to point out that my sum total of duel wins is roughly ... I think 1, for the achievement.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:29:08 EDT

mettachain posted : i'll bring 39 of my other Hordies with me and I'll duel you.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:15:38 EDT

Skittles posted : Rogues are ninjas. A few facts:

1. Ninjas are mammals.
2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.

Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town. My friend said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

<.<

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:37:34 EDT

Nick D posted : rouges r teh best mang i kik ur ass lets deul in sw

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:25:42 EDT

mettachain posted : respect for theiving, shadow crawling, assassins?

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:23:53 EDT

Nick D posted : Um its called dispatch now show sum respekt

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:19:01 EDT

Venom1 posted :

said by Curious1:

said by cymraeg:

sub/muti = dag/dag

com refer to Skittles list

Awesome, one of the daggers i have has lower damage than the heroic one i have .Does it matter which dagger i equip on what hand ?

higher dmg in your mainhand; more damage in your "backstab"/envenom in assassination, and more damage in your backstab/eviscerate in sub.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:17:30 EDT

cymraeg posted : good job mate, glad youre happy ;)

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:14:21 EDT

Curious1 posted : Thanks for all the suggestion guys, i went ahead n reforged my stuff to mastery n haste, thereby lowering my exp to like 3.4 % ish.Went in to try out my stat changes, and have been happy with it.I did 86k on the first boss in nizhou temple (vizir something)...was jumping around posting the meter in gchat :D.I will try out the aadons that you guys have mentioned today.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:18:57 EDT

mettachain posted : Slice Commander tracks every rogue ability that you want it to for every spec.

Also you can set it up to play sounds when something is applied such as SliceNDice, rupture, Hemmorage, etc.

you can these sounds for when it is applied, 3 seconds until it expires, 2 seconds till expire, 1 second, or when it actually expires....

and it has built in timer bars, energy bars, combo points, everything. a one-stop shop that's easy on memory as well.

SliceCommander...you friend in the Diamond [stealing] business.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:49:30 EDT

Fenrogue posted : Rogue Power Bars

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:47:13 EDT

cymraeg posted : if it doesnt quartz/ q procs does

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:45:06 EDT

bTU posted : Does it track just buffs, or can it also track DoT's like hemorrage and rupture? Might have to check it out since they Blizz changed up stuff and it has thrown my timing of refreshing stuff off, so I know I'm losing DPS.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:09:56 EDT

mettachain posted : Anyone ever seen Mutilate rogues with the name "Assassassin" (ass assassin)?

I get it. Assassination spec but at first glance it just seems gay.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:03:01 EDT

Skittles posted :

said by mettachain:

best thing for rogues since free vanishes!

life upgrades for rogues:

no more vanishing powder
no more blinding powder
no more poisons in your bags
no more thistle tea in the bags

and

no more swirly ball......awwwwwwww.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:33:45 EDT

mettachain posted : for a rogue i'd recommend SliceCommander as an addon from Curse.

best thing for rogues since free vanishes!
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:32:48 EDT

cymraeg posted : get some kind of tracking addon, quartz is what i use and quartz procs, so i can have snd right next to my toon so i dont have to keep looking up in the corner, or weak auras something lets know wether or not you have SnD, or any other buff debuff rocking, and a good CP visual aid is great, sometimes its hard to see on certain raid frames just how many you have.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:06:30 EDT

Curious1 posted : Also what are some good rogue addon's you guys recommend ?

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:54:59 EDT

Skittles posted : that or I need to try better syntax....

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:54:40 EDT

Curious1 posted :

said by mettachain:

slice n dice (increase attack speed)

ahh thanks, gona go home n take out some of the reforge i have for exp and put mastery /haste instead

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:53:38 EDT

mettachain posted :

said by Skittles:

lol. My friend in RL plays a warlock

your friend needs to differentiate between games and real life
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:52:32 EDT

mettachain posted : slice n dice (increase attack speed)

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:51:31 EDT

Curious1 posted : sorry to sound like a scrub, but what is Snd ?

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:45:56 EDT

Skittles posted :

said by bTU:

... so you're going to see some rogues looking like they are in seizures.

lol. My friend in RL plays a warlock in my guild and when we run together and I pop killing spree he always says it looks like a damn helicopter crashed into the mobs...love that shit

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:40:44 EDT

bTU posted : For all specs you want the highest DPS weapon in the MH slot. Though for sub and muti you have to have a dagger in MH to use backstab or mutilation. Oddly enough, even muti and sub benefit from SnD being up now, so you're going to see some rogues looking like they are in seizures.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:27:05 EDT

Skittles posted : As of MoP daggers are now 1.8 weapon speed, so if you are playing muti or sub the dagger in your MH will be 1.8 regardless so just use the highest dps dagger.

For combat, which is a very versitile spec to level and dungeon with, use the list I gave in my last post in this thread.

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:37:46 EDT

Curious1 posted : which hand to equip slow or fast weapons was out of the window i remember reading that somewhere, but what hand to equip the lower damage dagger versus the higher damage dagger i am unsure of

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:34:38 EDT

Ginjer posted :

said by Curious1:

said by cymraeg:

sub/muti = dag/dag

com refer to Skittles list

Awesome, one of the daggers i have has lower damage than the heroic one i have .Does it matter which dagger i equip on what hand ?

Does that matter anymore? Same with weapon speed? I thought I read somewhere they changed that? Could be wrong.
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Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:32:26 EDT

Curious1 posted :

said by cymraeg:

sub/muti = dag/dag

com refer to Skittles list

Awesome, one of the daggers i have has lower damage than the heroic one i have .Does it matter which dagger i equip on what hand ?

Re: [MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:19:23 EDT

cymraeg posted : sub/muti = dag/dag

com refer to Skittles list