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Re: Canadian comes home from GuantanamoOr a Canadian performing an act of treason taking up arms with the enemy against Canadians and their allies as they liberated Afghanistan from the Taliban & Al Qeada....
Now what would have happened to a Canadian who left Canada and took up arms with the Nazis in France when the Allies where liberating France?
PS: he was not defending his homeland or anyone's homeland. He was protecting a terrorist organization led by their families friend Bin Laden... |
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2012-Oct-2 5:18 pm
said by vue666:Or a Canadian performing an act of treason
Doesn't matter how much you try to thump the "treason" thing, or whatever your mind is fantasizing about. He wasn't convicted of treason. He is a child soldier. Come on, you can say it... C h i l d - S o l d i e r. |
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2012-Oct-2 5:28 pm
Just because he wasn't convicted of treason doesn't mean he did not commit treason. Kindly look up the definition of treason.... quote:
(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
AND sorry you can't play it both ways claiming Khadr should be allowed into Canada as it is his homeland... AND then claim he was defending his homeland in Afghanistan... So which is his homeland Canada or Afghanistan? |
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2012-Oct-2 6:05 pm
said by vue666:Just because he wasn't convicted of treason doesn't mean he did not commit treason.
Kindly look up the definition of treason....
You expect a child who left here at what age to know that. Or who was brought into some war when he was 14 to know what treason is, and what side is right or wrong in mass killings? Sorry I missed the Canadian court case on that one. As well as all the other child soldier cases where they were declared to have committed treason because their father brought them to another country as... come on... you can say it... C h i l d r e n. You are still fantasizing about a little boy who left Canada all by his lonesome to join a war and fight for what he thought was right, but was instead treason. And then this little boy knew all the ins and outs of law. etc, etc, etc. As you, yourself, state over and over again, there is no rehabilitation in your fantasizing and make believe. To me, in my opinion, it goes beyound comprehension. said by vue666:AND sorry you can't play it both ways claiming Khadr should be allowed into Canada as it is his homeland... AND then claim he was defending his homeland in Afghanistan... So which is his homeland Canada or Afghanistan?
I never stated that. Maybe you can correct yourself and direct your question at the one who did? |
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said by vue666:Just because he wasn't convicted of treason doesn't mean he did not commit treason.
Kindly look up the definition of treason.... quote:
(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
AND sorry you can't play it both ways claiming Khadr should be allowed into Canada as it is his homeland... AND then claim he was defending his homeland in Afghanistan... So which is his homeland Canada or Afghanistan? And kindly look up section 11(d) of the Charter. Unless he has been convicted of treason, he is innocent of treason. |
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Again just because he wasn't charged does not mean he did not act out the crime... I'm sure there are plenty of murderers & thieves running lose who have not been charged.... He fought with the enemy against his country and it's allies... Now what do you call that? By your logic if I drove 60 kph in a 30 kph zone and wasn't caught I would not have been speeding...  |
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You expect a child who left here at what age to know that. Or who was brought into some war when he was 14 to know what treason is, and what side is right or wrong in mass killings?
Ignorance of the law is never an acceptable excuse or reason... As far as age, he sure knew what killing is... |
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2012-Oct-2 7:00 pm
said by vue666:Ignorance of the law is never an acceptable excuse or reason...
Come on... You can say it... Except when it's a C H I L D. Seems to me you slandering him for something he was never been convicted of, yet spouting it as the god honest truth of is also "ignorance of the law". What would you do if you sued you?  Plead ignorant? Plead fantasy? ...And he likely could. People have been sued for less. You appear to have this mental block with C h i l d r e n. Seems to me there have been enough cult cases in various countries (and our own) to maybe help guide you in what a vulnerable part of society is. And to help you along a... Come on... you can say it... C h i l d is considered vulnerable. That is one reason why Canada is signed onto to international agreements about child soldiers, and also why Canada is now being slammed as ignoring its duty by every organization on the face of the earth. But you can chose to pretend none of this exists in your world. Not much more can be said to you. You live in a fantasy. |
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said by vue666:Again just because he wasn't charged does not mean he did not act out the crime... I'm sure there are plenty of murderers & thieves running lose who have not been charged....
He fought with the enemy against his country and it's allies... Now what do you call that?
By your logic if I drove 60 kph in a 30 kph zone and wasn't caught I would not have been speeding...
You would be presumed innocent just like he is. Deal with it, or file a private prosecution. |
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2012-Oct-2 10:04 pm
said by NCRGuy:said by vue666:Again just because he wasn't charged does not mean he did not act out the crime... I'm sure there are plenty of murderers & thieves running lose who have not been charged....
He fought with the enemy against his country and it's allies... Now what do you call that?
By your logic if I drove 60 kph in a 30 kph zone and wasn't caught I would not have been speeding...
You would be presumed innocent just like he is. Deal with it, or file a private prosecution. He killed an American medic. A Canadian (Khadr) killed an American who was our ally... sorry but that's treason whether or not he is convicted. Besides he admitted to the crime... So he is not innocent... |
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said by Shrug :said by vue666:Ignorance of the law is never an acceptable excuse or reason...
Come on... You can say it... Except when it's a C H I L D. Seems to me you slandering him for something he was never been convicted of, yet spouting it as the god honest truth of is also "ignorance of the law". What would you do if you sued you? Plead ignorant? Plead fantasy? ...And he likely could. People have been sued for less. You appear to have this mental block with C h i l d r e n. Seems to me there have been enough cult cases in various countries (and our own) to maybe help guide you in what a vulnerable part of society is. And to help you along a... Come on... you can say it... C h i l d is considered vulnerable. That is one reason why Canada is signed onto to international agreements about child soldiers, and also why Canada is now being slammed as ignoring its duty by every organization on the face of the earth. But you can chose to pretend none of this exists in your world. Not much more can be said to you. You live in a fantasy. He's a terrorist with very close ties to Bin Laden... |
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said by NCRGuy: Deal with it, or file a private prosecution. I don't think a JP would even consider that regardless of the evidence vue had. |
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I found this person's comments rather interesting.... Born into a family which was legally in Canada, emotionally in Pakistan and philosophically in 8th century Arabia, his childhood could not be considered ‘normal’ by any standards.
Both his parents were religious fanatics (his mother still is, his father gave his life to conduct violent jihad). He was physically bumped around, from living in the ‘Secular West’ at some points to a Muslim school in Pakistan to terrorist training camps. His sister was given in marriage at the age of 15 to an Al-Qaeda buddy of her father (the wedding is said to have been attended by Osama himself), his brothers actively conducted violent jihad (not all survived), and so on. » blog.xanthippas.com/2009 ··· un-laws/He makes other interesting points too. |
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I was looking up what happened to all the kids in gitmo and else-where. I never realized there were, so many aged 13 and up. Hundreds that are known of. Maybe thousands that are unknown of.
Kids murdered at gitmo or various other US torture houses.
Kids sent back home to be tortured further.
Kids sent to UNICEF (and others like UNICEF) for child soldier rehabilitation.
I read as many of their stories that I could muster. It hit me a little bit.
If they weren't murdered by their American torturers, they were re-tossed into torture or prisons where they came from, some made it, some snapped and became suicide bombers. It's all over the board.
Some kids were just picked up off the streets and sold to the Americans for 10$, then they ended up being tortured, or died, or let go 8 years later.
It's mind numbing how many there were. And how many were just randomly picked up and labeled.
A true American atrocity committed. A crime that no one will ever punish. But History at least is documented.
I think the only "rants" I came across that made sense to me was those by Canadian Senator, Roméo Dallaire in defending the child soldiers.
He himself have worked with them in Rwanda and else-where.
I don't know about the rest of you, but that is one Senator that commands respect when he speaks. He put down the Canadian government as well in regards to their obligations to Child soldiers and Canada's responsibility to Kadhar. And has been for years.
It's sad really.
As said above, these kids have seen things, been through things in a short period of time that many of you people who frown upon them will never (luckily) get to experience in a whole life time. |
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Yet chooses to selectively ignore others. Read it. |
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said by vue666:By your logic if I drove 60 kph in a 30 kph zone and wasn't caught I would not have been speeding...
By your logic we should suspend your driver's license because you're a dangerous habitual speeder, even though you've never been convicted of speeding. |
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