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osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

If the ISP's Were So Scared

of liability and false accusations, then why not tell the RIAA/MPAA to shove it?


BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by osravens:

of liability and false accusations, then why not tell the RIAA/MPAA to shove it?

Most ISPs also provide video services. I'm pretty sure they would like to continue to do that.

osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

The MPAA doesn't sell them the content. Whether they're satisfied or not is merely pleasing someone they don't have to.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

The members of MPAA do.


osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

So the MPAA's going to tell the content providers to refuse selling their products to anyone who's an ISP?

Yea, that's going to end well for them without cable, and surely decrease piracy.......


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

Wouldn't be surprising. The MPAA has never been known for thinking reasonably.



BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by silbaco:

Wouldn't be surprising. The MPAA has never been known for thinking reasonably.

Exactly. The same people that almost killed the VCR because it was going to lead to massive piracy and kill the movie industry.


NormanS
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by osravens:

of liability and false accusations, then why not tell the RIAA/MPAA to shove it?

Most ISPs also provide video services. I'm pretty sure they would like to continue to do that.

Video delivery and Internet access should not be provided by the same company.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by NormanS:

said by BF69:

said by osravens:

of liability and false accusations, then why not tell the RIAA/MPAA to shove it?

Most ISPs also provide video services. I'm pretty sure they would like to continue to do that.

Video delivery and Internet access should not be provided by the same company.

So you are going to force all the cable companies to sell off their internet access? Considering they run off the same lines the new ISPs would have to build out their own infrastructure. Yeah good luck with that.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to osravens
Content ownership and content delivery however should not be the same companies.

They also will not tell the MAFIAA to shove it because they fear harsher laws purchased by MAFIAA lobby groups. If "six strikes" did not get followed by the ISPs the entertainment groups would just buy laws that did far worse things.
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dnoyeB
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join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI

reply to NormanS
Ouch. You just killed UVerse.



NormanS
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said by dnoyeB:

Ouch. You just killed UVerse.

I wouldn't have if it was available. Oh, hark! It is and I don't.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


NormanS
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

So you are going to force all the cable companies to sell off their internet access? Considering they run off the same lines the new ISPs would have to build out their own infrastructure.

They do? Ask Paxio, Sonic.net, LLC or Google about how much last mile coax they are building out!
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Paxio
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join:2011-02-23
Santa Clara, CA
kudos:1

reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

Video delivery and Internet access should not be provided by the same company.

In the largest sense, I agree with you completely. We want to "carry" video services but not be the actual provider. For example we are experimenting with delivery of DirecTV over our fiber in The Sonora in San Jose. The trial is going well, but I'd like to see MORE offerings of video service added -- GoogleTV, SureWest, maybe even Comcast.

Why not? We can build out and maintain our state-of-the-art fiber plant for much less than an old creaky coax network, so we could offer Comcast "wholesale" access to the addresses on our network and everybody wins.

It's the future of data services -- open access. Build a next-gen fiber plant and sell access to any provider who wants to reach your footprint. Everybody competes for the customer's dollar and the customer only needs one clean fiber connection to access the world.

Prices go down, service goes up and people build statues of Paxio in the park! (Hey, its my fantasy and I can end it any way I want!)

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