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Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:38:55 EDT

Crookshanks posted :

said by BF69:

B) You're going to get all pissed off and ragey over a letter? Which is the "penalty" for illegally downloading.

Master plan:

1) Tell ISP about infringing account.
2) ISP sends strongly worded letter.
3) One of the following happens:

- Parent/Grandparent yells at teenager, teenager stops pirating music/videos for awhile.
- Spouse A yells at Spouse B, Spouse B stops pirating music/videos/porn for awhile.
- Grandma has no idea what happened, calls technically literate friend, who secures her wi-fi/cleans malware off her PC.
- Letter goes into the pile, never gets opened, account probably never receives another, if it does goto step #1.
- Serial pirate ignores letter, goto step #5

4) End.

5) Serial pirate invests in overseas VPN account OR gets sued in due time.

I suspect that the first example under step #3 accounts for a significant percentage of piracy, and in that instance a scary letter may well prove to be effective.

Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:05:26 EDT

Cyron posted :

said by BF69:

said by dnoyeB:

A) You overestimate the number of people that will be truly falsely accused. It's almost as if you WANT it to happen.

I think your jumping to the conclusion that IP Address = Individual. While I agree that the vast majority of accused IP addresses are accurate, so the person getting the letter pays for the internet account that was responsible, we've seen court cases go both ways on the IP address = person argument.

Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:37:46 EDT

funny posted :

said by dnoyeB:

I think they really intend to do this. It obviously won't have any impact on crime. Might beat up on a few people that make mistakes. Plus, piss off a whole lot of innocent people.

I think Americans do not like being falsely accused. Also, American's have huge balls in groups. Once the piss off that critical mass of people there will be hell to pay.

yes htis is why this is happening cause they have huge balls in groups....hahaha right bend over some more big boy here comes dinnner and you can't do a thing about it...

Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:47:09 EDT

cdru posted :

said by BF69:

B) You're going to get all pissed off and ragey over a letter? Which is the "penalty" for illegally downloading.

I think the same types clueless people that fall for phishing or 419 scams will get all pissed off if/when they are wrongly accused. They'll get all upset because they have a "record" and want to "clear their name".

Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:05:37 EDT

tmc8080 posted :

said by dnoyeB:

I think their timing is key, because they want to implement this, and at the same time are trying to ram down more legislation in the form of CISPA to violate people's privacy even moreso than they do today... it's worth a read and to let your senators know where you stand on it... how popular do you think it will be if people get ratted out by their ISPs.. whether it's true or not?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Inte···tion_Act

Re: I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:21:13 EDT

BF69 posted :

said by dnoyeB:

A) You overestimate the number of people that will be truly falsely accused. It's almost as if you WANT it to happen.

B) You're going to get all pissed off and ragey over a letter? Which is the "penalty" for illegally downloading.

I think they are serious

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:17:45 EDT

dnoyeB posted : I think they really intend to do this. It obviously won't have any impact on crime. Might beat up on a few people that make mistakes. Plus, piss off a whole lot of innocent people.

I think Americans do not like being falsely accused. Also, American's have huge balls in groups. Once the piss off that critical mass of people there will be hell to pay.
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