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<description><![CDATA[AVD posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/755055" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=755055');">OZO</a>:</said><p>... and then we face budget deficit problem caused by the Bob every year :(<br> </p></div>don't worry; he'll smuggle some controlled substance or another from the third world and then sell it in some slum or another over here.<br><small>--<br>--Standard disclaimers apply.--</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[OZO posted : ... and then we face budget deficit problem caused by the Bob every year :(<br><small>--<br>Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[EGeezer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/181601" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=181601');">StuartMW</a>:</said><p>... <br>To be honest I'm much more concerned with what Bob (the NSA et al) collects, stores and analyzes.<br> </p></div>It's getting so Bob can get everything he wants from private business simply by writing a check. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/646423" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=646423');">Ian</a>:</said><p>I'm curious as to why the Ad Industry believes that Microsoft Corporation is under any obligation, legal or otherwise, to make it easy for ad companies to track users. </p></div>Those advertisers are likely customers of Microsoft Corporation as well.  And that will drive the ultimate decision. Some Microsoft customers want privacy for themselvels.  Some Microsoft customers want to invade the privacy of others.  Who spends the most with Microsoft Corporation?  (Of course, there's a little PR involved as well - "we protect Mom and Pop" is worth a little).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Ian posted : I'm curious as to why the Ad Industry believes that Microsoft Corporation is under any obligation, legal or otherwise, to make it easy for ad companies to track users.<br><br>They want an "ad friendly" browser (or more so)? Then write one and publish it. I for one will not be joining the hordes of consumers, afraid about the imminent decline of quality content, who will download and install it. But I'm sure that's just me. ;-)<br><small>--<br>“Any claim that the root of a problem is simple should be treated the same as a claim that the root of a problem is Bigfoot.  Simplicity and Bigfoot are found in the real world with about the same frequency.” – David Wong</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[OZO posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/314530" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=314530');">NormanS</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/156437" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=156437');">dave</a>:</said><p>But of course their only concern is the quality of the 'online experience'.<br> </p></div>Of course, they're concerned about their 'online experience', not mine.<br> </p></div>Obviously...<br><br>It's similar to contemporary TV. I'm sick and tired of TV ads, showing me every 5 min as some one gobbles that f*ng burger or pizza or suggests me "Ask you doctor" for a million time. But some may say - it's a "great TV experience"...<br><br><div class="bquote"><p> it will undercut the effectiveness of our members&#146; advertising and, as a result, drastically damage the online experience by reducing the Internet content and offerings that such advertising supports. This result will harm consumers, hurt competition, and undermine American innovation and leadership in the Internet economy.</p></div>Oh, babe. Please hurt my online experience and remove all your dumb ads, I beg you... ;) <br><small>--<br>Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NormanS posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/156437" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=156437');">dave</a>:</said><p>But of course their only concern is the quality of the 'online experience'.<br> </p></div>Of course, they're concerned about their 'online experience', not mine.<br><small>--<br>Norman<br>~Oh Lord, why have you come<br>~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[AVD posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/181601" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=181601');">StuartMW</a>:</said><p>Yup. In other words it's almost completely useless.<br> </p></div>until the class action is filed. <br><small>--<br>--Standard disclaimers apply.--</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/181601" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=181601');">StuartMW</a>:</said><p>Yup. In other words it's almost completely useless.<br> </p></div>Perhaps.  But the parasites can no longer claim that "consumers" "want" their scrofulous offerings.  It might not be much, but it's a first step.  Maybe in a while we can get some legal teeth behind it.  Meanwhile, our position is explicit in "DNT: 1", and it is clear that a business that ignores this header is intent on fucking us over.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MagnusM posted : It could unfortunately make a lot of stats tools such as Google Analytics completely useless if for example Google were to drop stats for every user who sends this header. Many, many sites rely on Google Analytics (including ours) and so I'm not sure it's a great idea if we're heading in that direction. Like you say, the malicious web sites will just ignore the header.<br><small>--<br>Mischel Internet Security - Developer of <A HREF="http://www.trojanhunter.com">TrojanHunter</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[StuartMW posted : Yup. In other words it's almost completely useless.<br><small>--<br>Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MagnusM posted : It's just an extra HTTP header line that looks like this: <code>DNT: 1</code>. It's up to the web site owner to decide whether or not he wants to abide by the request.<br><br><small>--<br>Mischel Internet Security - Developer of <A HREF="http://www.trojanhunter.com">TrojanHunter</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[StuartMW posted : I don't know all the technicalities of "do not track" but my understanding is that it's the equivalent of asking a stalker, nicely, to stop. Personally I prefer a .45ACP :D<br><small>--<br>Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[siljaline posted : <b>Top admen beg Microsoft to switch off 'Do Not Track' in IE 10</b> <br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>Microsoft is in hot water with big-brand advertisers over its implementation of Do-Not-Track by default in the latest iteration of its Internet Explorer browser. The ad-slingers say Internet Explorer 10&#146;s Do-Not-Track feature will hurt advertisers, consumers and competition.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>I give high marks to MS for <b>finally</b> giving IE users first dibs on the ability of out-of-the-box non tracking protection. <br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>For advertisers, IE10 will potentially block their ability to collect data on <b>43</b> per cent of netizens in the US using Microsoft&#146;s browser &#150; that statistic is IE&#146;s current market share in the US according to StatCounter. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>This is a good thing assumng DNT doesn't cripple anyone's ability to use sites like this one as you normally would.<br>Sites that you visit often for a look-see that datamine you, why would you want to give those sites the ability to know you other than the referrer header of your IP and Browser, that's assuming you don't accept cookies. <br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>Thirty-nine ANA members have put their names to the letter, including AT&T, Dell, Ford Motor Company, IBM, Intel, Kellogg, Nestle, McDonalds and Wal-Mart.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>The above and many Fortune 500 companies want your data as many have or are already mediaphiles who online bank, shop, etc. Not to mention social networking but we won't go there. <br><br>ANA goes on to say:  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>If Microsoft moves forward with this default setting, it will undercut the effectiveness of our members&#146; advertising and, as a result, drastically damage the online experience by reducing the Internet content and offerings that such advertising supports. This result will harm consumers, hurt competition, and undermine American innovation and leadership in the internet economy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Member of ... your ability to stay on the cash-cow datamining consortium ? Count me in, where do I sign up ?<br><br>My .02  :D<br><br><ahref="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/03/ie_10_dnt_default_advertisers_letter/>Article</a> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[AVD posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/567879" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=567879');">Kearnstd</a>:</said><p>IAds are a security hole,  <br> </p></div>this<br>then this again<br><br>I'm serious, not rationalizing. <br><small>--<br>--Standard disclaimers apply.--</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Kearnstd posted : If advertisers policed their content and ad servers than we would not have an issue.<br><br>Why do I adblock?<br><br>1:  The ads are annoying,  I put up with banner ads and animated gifs,  I closed popups.   But when you started to pump out double volume rich media ads is when I draw the line.<br><br>2: Ads are a security hole,  As someone who worked in tech support I had to help lots of people who got infected by an ad telling them they where infected.    on TV the ads are for lysol and tell me to go to the store and buy some.   On the internet its more like someone sprays your kitchen with salmonella and then says pay us to clean it up.<br><small>--<br>[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Yup..lots of solutions out there<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=976&p=5372" >forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php&middot;&middot;&middot;6&p=5372</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Yes..well your 'highly configurable' Firefox4 really was not all the good. They might do it this way<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.firefoxfacts.com/2009/07/01/firefox-private-browsing-mode-help-and-faq/" >www.firefoxfacts.com/2009/07/01/&middot;&middot;&middot;and-faq/</A><br><br>But my browser of choice does not.. can you explain how proxo blocked atlas and omiture...a link please as to the method. And when you say ghostery detects those..those what ? and how since you say proxo took care of them first ?  all very confusing.<br> Now ..I thought that in FX5 they made it more configurable..and your versions is no longer supported <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.julianevansblog.com/2011/06/firefox-5-improves-do-not-track-dnt-accessibility.html" >www.julianevansblog.com/2011/06/&middot;&middot;&middot;ity.html</A><br><br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/27590048?c=2038699&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyNzU4NzEzNi54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="154065 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=549 HEIGHT=545 SRC="/r0/download/2038699~8cd4288438ebb9761417fb32058251bd/2011-09-22-19-10-14-390f53.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sivran posted : Still not sure why all the hoopla over a voluntary program. Did they actually plan to pay attention to the DNT header?  :o<br><small>--<br>Think <A HREF="http://opera.com/">Outside</a> the <A HREF="http://www.seamonkey-project.org/">Fox.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Ghostery finds those but it doesn't detect either Atlas or Omiture at that Microsoft test page (on Fx4) but that is because Proxo has blocked them and gobbled up most of the web bugs also. Ghostery gets the leftovers Proxo doesn't get. <br><br>That Microsoft test page tells me how to enable private browsing in Fx. I know how to do that! But private browsing is worthless because the price for it is way too high. You have no History when you do that and in Fx it screws up my superior cookie settings also so I won't ever do it. History is extremely important and Fx keeps History, as of Fx 4, for as long as is possible given the amount of RAM you have. That is wonderful...no expiring history...well, on my current computer it won't expire for about two years because I am limited in the amount of RAM that the motherboard will support. On a new computer, I will have enough RAM that history will never expire. Why does no tracking mean no history? They should not be tied together like that! Nor should cookie management be tied to no tracking either. STUPID.  So, I use Proxo and Ghostery instead of worthless "private" browsing. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Microsoft Advertising -Atlas Technology<br><div class="bquote"><p>Why Atlas Rich Media?<br>Rich media ads engage audiences and get results. They raise brand awareness and purchase intent. And they enable sophisticated tracking techniques that reveal precisely how consumers interact with your ads. With Atlas Rich Media, you can take full advantage of all of these benefits no matter what sites you advertise on.<br><br>Here&#146;s how we can make a difference for you:<br>Full Integration: You don&#146;t need a different vendor for rich media and in-stream video. Create, test, and deliver creative using a unified platform for campaign planning, reporting, and optimization.  And, after all of the effort you&#146;ve put into your rich media ads, make sure that you&#146;re accurately measuring the ads&#146; contribution to your campaign&#146;s conversions and overall success by using the Engagement Mapping measurement standard.<br>No Compromises: We provide full support across all major browsers. You can create and serve anything in Flash without forced templates or restrictive guidelines. Build any type of ad (in-page, expanding, floating, in-page, in-stream, or in-game video) and track over 70 unique events, such as: rollovers, internal navigation, completed playback times, impressions, click-throughs, and conversions.</p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://advertising.microsoft.com/atlas-rich-media-benefits" >advertising.microsoft.com/atlas-&middot;&middot;&middot;benefits</A><br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted :  :D :D When i go to the Microsoft DNT  Test Page..<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/donottrack/default.html" >ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/brows&middot;&middot;&middot;ult.html</A><br><br>  My Google Chrome Do Not Track Blocker stops this crap on their DNT page.<br><br>2 ad networks tracking you: 2 blocked<br><br>   Advertising opt-out cookies are ON. <br>Microsoft (Atlas Technology)<br>Omniture<br><br>1 company tracking you: 1 blocked<br>Omniture<br><br>That's three Blocks<br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Ad industry says IE10's Do-Not-Track implemenation hurts web<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.techspot.com/news/50392-ad-industry-says-ie10s-do-not-track-implemenation-hurts-web.html" >www.techspot.com/news/50392-ad-i&middot;&middot;&middot;web.html</A><br><br><b>Users can test whether or not their DNT is enabled by visiting Microsoft's DNT test page.</b><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/donottrack/default.html" >ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/brows&middot;&middot;&middot;ult.html</A><br><br>Now..that test page states it is not offered for Google Chrome..but i have news for them..I have been using do not track for a while now in Chrome.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/do-not-track-plus/epanfjkfahimkgomnigadpkobaefekcd" >chrome.google.com/webstore/detai&middot;&middot;&middot;baefekcd</A><br><br>And ....<br><br><div class="bquote"><p>Google (GOOG) on Thursday added support for a Do Not Track privacy option in the latest developer build of its Chrome Web browser, All Things D reported. When Do Not Track is enabled it blocks tracking cookies used by advertisers for targeting purposes. The Internet giant has offered an extension in its Chrome Web Store since 2011 that acted in a similar manner, however unlike its competitors &#151; Firefox, Internet Explorer and Safari &#151; the option was not built directly into the browser. A Google spokesperson confirmed that the Do Not Track option is expected be available in a stable version of Chrome by the end of the year.</p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/14/google-chrome-do-not-track-option/" >www.bgr.com/2012/09/14/google-ch&middot;&middot;&middot;-option/</A><br><br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mysec posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/655093" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=655093');">Name Game</a>:</said><p>http://www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/identity-and-trust/library/pp/cookies/<br> </p></div> <br>Great article for explaining these things.<br><br>This stood out to me:<br><div class="bquote"><p>Web tracking is mainly performed by monitoring IP addresses, and using techniques such as cookies, or the more powerful supercookies<br><br>Some sites, such as those belonging to advertising companies, use third-party cookies to track a user across multiple sites. In particular, an advertising company can track a user across all pages where it has placed advertising images or web bugs. Knowledge of the pages visited by a user allows the advertising company to target advertising at the user&#146;s presumed preferences.<br><br>Another study shows that not only are these third-parties increasing their tracking of users, but that they can now link these traces with identities and personal information via online social networks [19]. In [20], a behavioural targeting study was performed on an e-commerce site for a clothing line. The results for the analysed case showed that the web site contained a total of nine tracking tags that linked to eight third-party companies. </p></div> <br><br><br>----<br>rich]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : And the Flash cookie you mentioned..they call Cookie Re-Spawning.<br>Cookie re-spawning is the practice of using ulternative storage locations, such as Flash Local Storage Objects (LSOs), to recreate cookies if they are deleted from the browser, therefore circumventing the consumer's decision.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.softpedia.com/news/European-Advertising-Industry-Association-Condemns-Cookie-Re-Spawning-159824.shtml" >news.softpedia.com/news/European&middot;&middot;&middot;24.shtml</A><br><br> Then there is the "Ever Cookie" stored in ten locations..<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hacker-Releases-Tool-for-Producing-the-Ultimate-Persistent-Cookies-157562.shtml" >news.softpedia.com/news/Hacker-R&middot;&middot;&middot;62.shtml</A><br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Right ..well this is the pdf of the study..your persistent type cookie is discussed ..along  with security risks in section 3. Privacy Concerns section 4.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/identity-and-trust/library/pp/cookies/" >www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/i&middot;&middot;&middot;cookies/</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mysec posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/655093" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=655093');">Name Game</a>:</said><p>..antiquated is good when you publish the code date..and where they were manufactured. :D<br> </p></div> <br>Sorry, I don't know what you are referring to... <br><br>----<br>rich]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : I handle them similar to what you do then..and I never worried about any of them..antiquated is good when you publish the code date..and where they were manufactured. :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mysec posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/655093" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=655093');">Name Game</a>:</said><p>Do you consider that permanent cookie to be a... </p></div> <br>I've always thought that a Permanent or Persistent cookie was one that I authorized to be stored. I have six.<br><br>EDIT: I'm not going to refer to my browser settings, since I've been taken to task for referencing an antiquated version of the browser I use.<br><br>The "alternative," next generation persistent cookies mentioned in the article, such Flash, present a real problem in being able to control whether or not you want them stored.<br><br>That "problem" is taken care of on my system since I use Deep Freeze, whereby anything written to a frozen partition is wiped on reboot, so nothing of that nature is stored. <br><br>----<br>rich]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Name Game posted : Do you consider that permanent cookie to be a... <br><br>ENISA Warns About the Risks of Persistent Cookies<br><br>The agency notes that HTTP cookies were initially created for facilitating browser-server interaction and solving other legitimate technical problems.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.softpedia.com/news/ENISA-Warns-About-the-Risks-of-Persistent-Cookies-185216.shtml" >news.softpedia.com/news/ENISA-Wa&middot;&middot;&middot;16.shtml</A><br><small>--<br>Gladiator Security Forum <br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/" >www.gladiator-antivirus.com/</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mysec posted : That would be quite an impressive feat!<br><br>However, all the articles I've read stress the cookie. Here's an interesting one: the "policital cookie":<br><br>Campaigns to Track Voters with "Political Cookies"<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428347/campaigns-to-track-voters-with-political-cookies/" >www.technologyreview.com/news/42&middot;&middot;&middot;cookies/</A><br><div class="bquote"><p>Using so-called browser cookies, advertisers can track a given Web surfers' habits and serve them relevant ads. <br><br>This election year, a related type of targeted ads-one relying on "political cookies"-is coming into widespread use.<br><br>With the help of advertising exchanges and media partners, a political campaign can use cookies to serve specific ads <br><br>Most major campaigns this year will use cookie-based political advertising, says John Phillips, CEO of Aristotle International, which sells voter records combined with information like people's hobbies and income brackets. </p></div> <br> <br><br>----<br>rich]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1295721" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1295721');">mysec</a>:</said><p>how can a profile for my computer be built and used for tracking? </p></div>I've no idea how the big boys do it, but if I wanted to, here's what I'd try:<br><br>1.  Take a bunch of whatever relatively fixed data points I can find out about your machine from a web page. (Any ids I can find, disk size, blah blah).<br><br>2.  Boil 'em down to a signature.<br><br>3.  Store the signature on a central server somewhere.<br><br>4.  Now anyone else that uses dave's fingerprint service can identify you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mysec posted : High Stakes in Internet Tracking<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428044/high-stakes-in-internet-tracking/" >www.technologyreview.com/news/42&middot;&middot;&middot;racking/</A><br><div class="bquote"><p>An Amazon ad for a book by science fiction writer Cory Doctorow recently appeared on my computer screen. "What a coincidence!" I thought naively. I'd been reading an opinion item by Doctorow on Internet privacy (to be published this week as part of this month's Business Impact series) and had looked up his past writing. That was all it took for a crowd of ads to start following me.<br><br>On the network, it's an IP address or the browser cookies that tell other computers who you are. </p></div> <br>I'm a bit confused.<br><br>I store a permanent cookie on Amazon because I like the suggestions for books/music based on my purchasing, that appear  on my page when I log in.<br><br>But I've never seen any subsequent advertisements based on that information, appear (or follow me) anywhere else I'm browsing.<br><br>So, I'm a bit confused. Since my IP address is dynamic, and I don't accept 3rd-party (tracking) cookies, how can a profile for my computer be built and used for tracking?<br><br>Evidently one can't be built, since I haven't experienced what the writer describes (advertisements following me around the web).<br><br>Please enlighten me!<br><br>thanks,<br><br>----<br>rich]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[siljaline posted : And older article from VentureBeat:<br><ahref="http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/13/how-do-not-track-could-destroy-the-internet-as-you-know-it/>Do not track could destroy the Internet as we know it</a>.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sivran posted : Meanwhile, they're planning to just quietly ignore Do-Not-Track, and track anyway.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[siljaline posted : This reminds me of MS baking Flash into IE10 on Win8 RTM, cited:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27515606-Microsoft-to-deliver-Flash-update-to-Windows-8-shortly">Microsoft to deliver Flash update to Windows 8 shortly</A><br><br><b>Ad industry blasts Microsoft over Do Not Track defaults in IE 10</b> From Ed Bott: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/ad-industry-blasts-microsoft-over-do-not-track-defaults-in-ie-10-7000005185/" >www.zdnet.com/ad-industry-blasts&middot;&middot;&middot;0005185/</A><br><br>If <ahref="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_not_track>DNT</a> is enabled by default in IE10, what's holding anyone from opt-ing out ?<br>It would seem to me <i>DNT</i> would | could pose issues many sites that would not allow you to some some or all functions, such as logging in, being ad-ridden. <br><br><i>Edit to add:</i><br><b>How Do Not Track could destroy the Internet as you know it</b><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>&#147;If advertisers can convince people to smoke and eat Micky D&#146;s, they can convince them to disable Do Not Track.&#148;<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>So says Christopher Soghoian, a security and privacy researcher at the <ahref="http://www.aclu.org/>ACLU</a> who argues that one of the biggest problems advertisers face with <ahref="http://donottrack.us/>Do Not Track</a> is convincing web surfers that they don&#146;t need to use it. <br><br>For advertisers, behavioral tracking is an effective way to develop a strong profile on web users so they can better target ads. But for privacy groups and web users, it&#146;s a massive breach in privacy that goes against the most basic tenets of the web. Originally proposed in 2009,  Do Not Track is the &#147;Do not call&#148; of the digital age, a way for users to tell advertising companies that they want to opt out of behavioral tracking. Even <ahref="http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/08/advertisers-still-arent-happy-with-microsofts-do-not-track-plan/>Microsoft jumped onboard</a> the of the Do Not Track effort.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Snowy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/156437" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=156437');">dave</a>:</said><p>But of course their only concern is the quality of the 'online experience'.<br></p></div>The proposed default setting of Internet Explorer 10 is just one battle in the war to define who owns the browser session, the advertisers or the consumer.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[rcdailey posted : The feedback that still matters to advertisers is from sales.  Analyzing the web traffic is useful in that it will help to tell you if all that web traffic is actually having any positive impact on sales.  Then you can decide to pull your ads from Facebook, if you want to.  Privacy is probably gone forever, unless you go completely off the grid and live in a cave somewhere.<br><small>--<br>It is easier for a camel to put on a bikini than an old man to thread a needle.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[StuartMW posted : I wouldn't call the ANA "parasites". They're just an organization, like any other, trying to represent their members.<br><br>Years ago when all there was only print media (newspapers. magazines), radio and TV the only feedback advertisers got was by sales. With the advent of the internet they got a lot more info (cookies, clicks etc). Obviously they don't want to give that up.<br><br>That said we all have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I  use &#8220;do-not-track&#8221; but my understanding is that it's not worth much. One can use other measures if desired.<br><br>To be honest I'm much more concerned with what Bob (the NSA et al) collects, stores and analyzes.<br><small>--<br>Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow!</small>]]></description>
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<title>Re: Association of Parasites upset about &#x27;do-not-track&#x27; default</title>
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<description><![CDATA[Martinus posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/156437" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=156437');">dave</a>:</said><p>But of course their only concern is the quality of the 'online experience'.<br><br><div class="bquote"><p>By setting the Internet Explorer browser to block data collection, Microsoft&#146;s action could potentially eliminate the ability to collect web viewing data of up to 43 percent of the browsers used by Americans.</p></div>Like that's a bad thing?<br> </p></div>"43 percent of the browsers used by Americans" is a good thing.<br><br>At least, it does not include me - or folk in "the old country"  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:35:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Association of Parasites upset about &#x27;do-not-track&#x27; default</title>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : But of course their only concern is the quality of the 'online experience'.<br><br><div class="bquote"><p>As ANA&#146;s Board of Directors, we write to renew the request of the Association of National Advertisers (ANA) that Microsoft reverse its position regarding the so-called &#147;do-not-track&#148; default setting for the forthcoming Internet Explorer 10 browser. We believe that if Microsoft moves forward with this default setting, it will undercut the effectiveness of our members&#146; advertising and, as a result, drastically damage the online experience by reducing the Internet content and offerings that such advertising supports. This result will harm consumers, hurt competition, and undermine American innovation and leadership in the Internet economy.</p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.ana.net/content/show/id/analetter-microsoft#_ftn2" >www.ana.net/content/show/id/anal&middot;&middot;&middot;ft#_ftn2</A><br><br><div class="bquote"><p>By setting the Internet Explorer browser to block data collection, Microsoft&#146;s action could potentially eliminate the ability to collect web viewing data of up to 43 percent of the browsers used by Americans.</p></div>Like that's a bad thing?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:14:33 EDT</pubDate>
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