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Re: [TWC] TWC New York Modem Activation I have Earthlink Standard first having the DCM 425 and then going down there to swap it for the Motorola SBG6580 DOCSIS3 modem for about a week. The short story was that I been and still do sometimes are having problems with my connection. When I had that modem I would sometimes during peak hours get slow uploads. When the tech guy came he swapped that modem said I could not have it for a ugly crappy Arris TM602G Telephone modem even though I don't have the telephone service. I since went back and swapped it for a RCA425. Then I started having dead connections. Modem lights showed normal but the connection would go dead. It was all the work that they were doing in my area.
I then bought the SB5101U which is a DOCSIS2 modem. It works good but Friday at around 6:30PM I had a dead connection the lights showed normal but I could not connect to anything. Called the Tier 3 number and the guy put a monitor on my modem. Saturday at 1:30 AM same thing but Sunday till now it is fine. I know it is not the modem since swapping 6 other ones this is my 7th and it still does it.
What I want to know is since I have Earthlink Standard TWC said that I can't even use a DOCSIS3 modem. Also is the SB5101U a good modem even though it is DOCSIS2? Is it as much better than the RCA425? |
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 PacketeersPremium join:2005-06-18 Forest Hills, NY kudos:1 Reviews:
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2 edits | tony, you may want to open a separate troubleshooting thread for that. people here have used the rca425 for years without incident, and yes you can use a docsis3 modem on docsis2 speed rated service. personally i have also had problems with rca425 (modem would drop ISP and have to be power cycled every few days) that the ubee seemed to help stabilize but that could be purely anecdotal since provisioning may have done other things to my line during the modem swap.
i hope the sb5101u i will activate this week is not any worse than the ubee i'll be turning in to avoid monthly fees. even though i didn't clearly know i could get multichannel docsis3 benefits on a docsis2 speed rated line (i though getting docsis3 would simply have saved me the modem upgrade cost should i want to pay for faster speeds in the future), i probably still would have bought the cheap reconditioned modem since the expensive docsis3 one would not have paid for itself by the time FiOS is offered in my building. my reprovisioning wait is already over 48 hours so hopefully today will be the day i'll know my fate. |
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 StraphangerExpress is BackPremium,Mod join:2001-12-08 Jackson Heights, NY kudos:2 Host: TV over IP Other Manufacturers New York Audio/Video Chat
| reply to hchen42 I went to return my modem today at the Queens Center service center...took about 25 minutes of waiting to get it returned.
I asked the rep if a lot of people have been doing this recently. He said yes but was surprised at the backlash against the modem fee stating that it's not economical to replace a modem in the long term and that most users won't even see the benefits of D3 modems. I tried to talk to him about channel bonding but he seemed a bit perplexed at it and then tried to sell me on wideband service. I declined and that was that. This chapter of my 11 year saga with RR is over. -- Please use all available doors...you have 33 to choose from. |
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 | reply to hchen42 You can't even find the SB5101U on Newegg anymore where I bought it and on Amazon it is over $60 now and it is sold by a third party. They still have plenty of SB121 3.0 modems but TWC does not support it on there list and who would want the SB6580 since the router function stinks and your own routet would outperform it to run it in bridge mode is a waste. |
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 StraphangerExpress is BackPremium,Mod join:2001-12-08 Jackson Heights, NY kudos:2 | reply to tonyram57 Didn't someone also say that you could trick RR into provisioning the 6121 by saying it's a 6141? -- Please use all available doors...you have 33 to choose from. |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | said by Straphanger:Didn't someone also say that you could trick RR into provisioning the 6121 by saying it's a 6141? They can't tell the model number from the MAC address (they could only tell they're both motorola modems if they checked the vendor ID), so they'll most likely register it if you say it's a supported model.
The question is if their configuration server has a generic config file for any DOCSIS3 modem. On some systems, the config files are model-specific. I'm not sure how TWC handles it. -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 PacketeersPremium join:2005-06-18 Forest Hills, NY kudos:1 | reply to hchen42 there are still tons of used sb5101u on amazon in the $30's.
the factory reconditioned ones you get from amazon did rise
from $28 i paid on thursday to $38 with NY tax now. |
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 | reply to tonyram57 said by tonyram57:Ywho would want the SB6580 since the router function stinks and your own routet would outperform it to run it in bridge mode is a waste. I've been running SB6580 over the weekend now, (knock on wood), the router is working. I have a trendnet switch, 3 computer, one voip adapter (obi202), 2 phones, 1 ipad, 1 network tv tuner, xbox360, a Sony network TV, ps3, a NAS, a wireless printer connect to it either via LAN or wireless. Of course, they don't all access the router simultaneously. The highest simultaneous usage case I remember was having TV, voip adapter, 1 ipad, 2 computer connections and printer, NAS, switch all accessing at once. I didn't notice much difference than my old one. The wireless signal is weaker than my old router. |
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4 edits | reply to hchen42 OMG - Amazing new precedent setting news! 
my leased ubee modem lost ISP at 7:45pm this evening. as usual i fiddled with it, shutdown, power cycled, etc. and the ISP would not come back.
could it be one of those typical Monthly outages or...
I hooked up my own $28 factory reconditioned Motorola. the indicator light sputterred for a minute or two till I finally got the ISP back on this new MAC added modem.
I did NOT get ANY Call VoiceMail or Email from TWCable.
BTW I was two hours over the 72 hour since ordered call, but in fairness, that 72 hours was over a holiday weekend.
the new modem is running at 3mb basic internet speed, but i'll leave it on overnight to self update, and if not i can always have them adjust it over the phone in the morning. I'm just glad I have connectivity on my new modem without having to play a lot of telephone tag while on a MagicJack.
UPDATE: I did in fact get a human voice message after the fact informing me to change over to my own modem and return the leased one to my local TWC center as soon as possible.
You received a new 0:26 minutes voicemail message, on Monday, October 08, 2012 at 07:45:47 PM
Based on reading elsewhere on the web my firmware is outdated; Software Version: SB5101NU-2.1.7.0-GA-00-388-NOSH Hardware Version: 1 MIB Version: II GUI Version: 1.0 So I'll report here when I notice TWCable pushed a newer version, which should be 2.4.X.X or better (below is for USB PC connection). »download.cnet.com/Motorola-SURFb···249.html if you have this modem you can see your current Versions here; »192.168.100.1/RgHelp.asp |
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 StraphangerExpress is BackPremium,Mod join:2001-12-08 Jackson Heights, NY kudos:2 | I noticed my SB6141's firmware is a little out of date too. It's version 1.0.6.3 when the latest seems to be 1.0.6.6. -- Please use all available doors...you have 33 to choose from. |
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 kilrathi join:2005-04-22 Rockaway Park, NY | Same here, hopefully TW sends updated one to users with 6141 sometime, but with their schedule with these things could be a year |
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| said by kilrathi:Same here, hopefully TW sends updated one to users with 6141 sometime, but with their schedule with these things could be a year Why would they if the current one is not causing issues? -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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| well with that kind of mentality we could still use old software and firmware on a lot of devices, key is if there is new firmware out officially by maker of the modem, too bad there is no way to find out what the changes are or at least I can find out but comcast did roll out this firmware to their customers with 6141. |
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| reply to swintec I asked about pushing software to my modem 3 days ago when i registered my new MAC, and the Tier-3 guy says their system automatically pushes it out as needed - I'm hoping over night or over a weekend... so by the 15th if I don't see an update, I'll call support and annoy them with our concerns. I read other forums that claim TWCable is very conservative with new firmware since they often have problems with such updates and end up having to roll it back. So the latest supported version may vary from cable system to cable system. |
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 swintecPremium,VIP join:2003-12-19 Alfred, ME kudos:4 | reply to kilrathi i think modem firmware is tested in house extensively to make sure it works with the network in all the areas. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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4 edits | reply to hchen42 a 3 day auction just came up - get it fast; SB6141 only $100 shipped
»www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Motorola-SB···37059853
Morning Update: sorry, that ebay sold within the hour. also my own modem software did NOT update overnight.
here's a non-primetime Standard 10/1 service speed test;
 but my speed varies widely during prime time to half of this.
Afternoon Update: dropped off modem with no problems other than the long wait... was told 45min turned into 90min easy, but i got some shopping done nearby, so it was no big deal.
thus my oddessy endeth... i just hope i don't later regret having not spent quadruple the money on a docsis3 modem. |
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 | Level III support is great. Took about 5 min to activate my SBG6580. Thanks for the number! |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to Packeteers Your modem will update only if there's a TWC-approved update available. Just because the latest Motorola puts out is higher than your current version does not mean your current one is outdated for use on the TWC network.
If there are no issues resolved in the newer firmware that pertain to TWC's network, then they may not bother going through the process of certifying it for use and distributing it. "If it ain't broke...". -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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| think i figured as much 
what about clicking on the "factory default restore" in the firmware before i go to sleep - might that force an update from TWCable? or should i just leave well enough alone. |
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