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Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:19:02 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

....I guess it is completely acceptable to steal, misrepresent, blackmail, coerce, con an individual as long as they are NOT on the 'Do Not Call' list?

Pathetic.

That, it is ! :uhh: :huh:

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:45:00 EDT

diskdocx posted : So, if I am to understand correctly, these companies were fined for breaking the do not call list, not for fraudulently calling individuals and lying about their computers being infected?

The CRTC knows who these companies are, and is chosing not to refer to law enforcement?

Seriously, what has this country come to?

I guess it is completely acceptable to steal, misrepresent, blackmail, coerce, con an individual as long as they are NOT on the do not call list?

Pathetic.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:26:37 EDT

fiestaware posted : I'll try both routes. Thanks!

Bell got fined for this stuff a couple years ago. I'm guessing the fines weren't high enough to drive home the point.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:39:51 EDT

sbrook posted : Mebbe they got the message. But privacy takes you somewhere else than the exec office ... and privacy office seems to have a lot of clout!

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:26:53 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by sbrook:

Even that doesn't work. I contacted the Exec office after being promised it was excluded, but I kept on getting calls almost daily from Bell. I told them that never mind the exclusion code on the account ... they were not to call my number for as long as my name is associated with that number ...

Worked for me the first time. I emailed privacy@bell.ca with this.

"Hello,

I wish for my household to be removed from your direct mail &
telephone marketing lists. I have repeatedly told various telephone
marketers calling to sell me Bell services that I do not wish to be
called, yet the calls continue. I also do not wish to receive any more
direct mail advertising.

Please remove the following telephone number & address from your marketing lists."
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Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:55:00 EDT

sbrook posted : Try the ombudsman for Bell.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:26:53 EDT

fiestaware posted : The only 'account' I have with them is the wholesaled landline (via Tek). I guess they think of that as a foot in the door.

Even if it doesn't work (as sbrook suggests) how does one even go about adding a 'telemarketing exclusion code'? They have a dep't for such matters?

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:02:07 EDT

sbrook posted : Even that doesn't work. I contacted the Exec office after being promised it was excluded, but I kept on getting calls almost daily from Bell. I told them that never mind the exclusion code on the account ... they were not to call my number for as long as my name is associated with that number ...

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:49:15 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by fiestaware:

In other news: how do I get Bell to stop telemarketing to me?

Have them add a telemarketing exclusion code to your account. I havent been bothered in years, either phone or by mail.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:46:46 EDT

fiestaware posted :

quote:
The companies have been fined $495,000 and $12,000...

Whoa. Show-stopping numbers.

In other news: how do I get Bell to stop telemarketing to me?

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:11:10 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by sbrook:

The latest scammers aren't even offshore ...

Ontario EcoEnergy....

LAY-ZEE !

Didn't that type used to go door-to-door ?

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:34:54 EDT

sbrook posted : The latest scammersa aren't even offshore ... Ontario EcoEnergy.

Pretending they can get you provinicial energy rebates when those programs were stopped by the gov't earlier in the year. They're the latest new daily caller!

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:27:52 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
And another :

»"I am calling from Windows" scammer calls ARS......

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:22:37 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by HiVolt:

Yesterday I got a funny scam email... LOL....

And on a possibly related topic :

»Association of Parasites upset about 'do-not-track' default

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:18:11 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by HiVolt:

Yesterday I got a funny scam email... LOL....

OK, so 37 past victims are each to receive $1.5M ?

How come nobody called me when the original scam went down ?!

Is it too late to get on that list ? :p

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:11:45 EDT

Jethro86 posted : So the world bank uses Gmail and Yahoo mail. An they don't even try to sound reasonable like saying you can get $100. No they go all for the $1.5 million so someone can call BS so fast. Unless they want the greedier ones.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:19:28 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by TSI Gabe:

wow, the irony

I know eh... hell, if you reply to that, you deserve to get scammed, hehe...

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:10:12 EDT

TSI Gabe posted : wow, the irony

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:56:13 EDT

HiVolt posted : Yesterday I got a funny scam email... LOL....

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:29:03 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by grunze510:

What? Arrest, or waste people's time? :D

Either has its merits. :p

However, I was talking about the virtual machine sandboxing stuff. - Have not done that so far.

Another basic angle on the 'time waste' would be that the longer you can keep such an arsehat 'on the line', as it were, the later he/she will get to [trying to rip off] the next victim - a standard tactic which some folks use on ordinary telemarketers.

Personally though, I'm for reaching thru the phone line and wringing their fucking necks - which is why I don't answer such calls anymore - in case I ever got motivated enough to find out how to DO that, in which case y'all might have to email me in the pen. :o ;)

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:59:06 EDT

mr_hexen posted : yet i receive calls to have my ducts cleaned almost daily. . . .

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:53:18 EDT

grunze510 posted : What? Arrest, or waste people's time? :D

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:30:07 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by grunze510:

If these scammers get fined and arrested and whatnot....

Sounds gratifyingly evil.

Please, somebody teach me how to do that.

Muahahahahahaaaaa ! :D :D

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:24:46 EDT

grunze510 posted :

said by Davesnothere:

said by andyb:

....Why the fuk do they call them telemarketers?

They are imposters/thieves/scammers....

Sadly, some of these are BOTH.

Any who are more than simply 'honest' telemarketers should be dealt with under other laws than our already toothless DNC list.

If these scammers get fined and arrested and whatnot, then you can't keep them on the phone for an hour while they mess with a virtual machine that you created to screw with them, eventually getting to the point where you unleash your anger while they pretend they don't know what a scam and lies are. :p

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:21:22 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by andyb:

....Why the fuk do they call them telemarketers?

They are imposters/thieves/scammers....

Sadly, some of these arses are BOTH.

Any who are more than simply 'honest' telemarketers should be dealt with under other laws than our already toothless DNC list.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:37:30 EDT

andyb posted : As I said to Goldberg earlier.Why the fuk do they call them telemarketers?They are imposters/thieves/scammers.Dont fine them for not signing up to the DNCL list.What message are you sending?Sign up for the list and continue on with no worries? Fukin idiots,dont worry about the crimes committed just pay our DNCL penalty...

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:11:10 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by sbrook:

Maybe they'll get Bell et al to use technology to block at least some of these fraudsters.

They should force Bell et al to fix this!

Who this they, Kimo Sabby ?

I agree that it would be the right thing to do for phone providers to block this shit - at least block the known bad callers.

In recent times, I never pick up my phone unless I recognise on my CID who is calling - and sometimes even THEN.... :D

Sites like »www.800notes.com are very good to learn the identity of many unsolicited callers, and I have managed to avoid having to even HEAR some of the spiels such as the above-posted ones by not answering, and checking there first.

BTW, just who is this AL fellow who hangs out so much with BH#$ELL, and what is HIS part in all of this ? ;)

--

We have only 2 things about which to worry :
(1) That things may never get back to normal
(2) That they already HAVE !

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:23:30 EDT

Jack17 posted : falsely warn them that their home computer was infected with a virus

I have been call for those 2 times already...

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:46:12 EDT

sbrook posted : Maybe they'll get Bell et al to use technology to block at least some of these fraudsters. They should force Bell et al to fix this!

Re: FRAUD & PHISHING too

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:54:20 EDT

bt posted : I'm sure these fine, upstanding ~~fraudsters~~ corporate citizens will pay their fine without any hassle.

FRAUD & PHISHING too

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:19:19 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
But wait, there's more ! (than just DNCL violations)

quote:
....An investigation carried out by the CRTC alleges these companies would contact consumers and falsely warn them that their home computer was infected with a virus.

They would then encourage them to purchase online technical support or anti-virus software, and in some cases even request remote access to the computer....

....at which time the potential for identity theft would be imminent.

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:10:33 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
CBC's link :

»www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2···ion.html

Re: CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:25:06 EDT

Crowbar1 posted : They can't even enforce the fines in Canada , how will they collect anything from foreign companies ......

CRTC fines foreign telemarketers for do-not-call violations

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:18:21 EDT

AkFubar posted : »news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/crtc···ations-1

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