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Oleg
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Birmingham, AL
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Big Boys Toys qustion

I have a question for all of you who likes electronics. How many of you have bought electronics based on want factor?

I have bought a lot of upgrades for my computer even when what i have had has worked good for me. I have made a promise to my self i will not buy anymore high tech toys that i do not need, but the temptation has taken over, 6 month later



Kilroy
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I have. 3D glasses, back in the 90s, and a monitor calibrator come to mind as things I bought and only used breifly, if at all.

The want factor things don't get purchased if I don't have the money, but if I do, it is "what the heck?"
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Dissembled

join:2008-01-23
Indianapolis, IN
reply to Oleg

My wife has quashed any semblance of "want factor" from me over the last ten years.

I can want whatever the hell I want but it doesn't really matter what I want now does it?



PhoenixDown
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reply to Oleg

I bought the new ipad based on want factor. I dont get nearly as much use from it as I would have liked. Love my iphone though!



mityfowl
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Dallas, TX
reply to Dissembled

said by Dissembled:

My wife has quashed any semblance of "want factor" from me over the last ten years.

I can want whatever the hell I want but it doesn't really matter what I want now does it?

Ten more years and you won't even think the works "I want".

5 more years and all you'll think is "I want out"

nonymous
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join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ
reply to Oleg

Budget is almost nothing. Still want to play with a Rasperry Pi so back ordered one. When it gets closer to shipping will order a case. Think I have everything else though will find and confirm the power supply I think i have.



Oleg
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What i have done recently is i have replace a cheap, but in good working order PSU with Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···17371045



koitsu
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Mountain View, CA
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reply to Oleg

Great question, and a great topic. Very personal too.

Generally speaking I tend to "suffer" from that kind of upgrade choice.

I don't consider myself part of this demographic, but I imagine a very large portion of the "PC enthusiast" crowd does this as well -- that is to say, changing (upgrading or replacing) things that don't really need it. A good example is going from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge CPUs; yes there are speed improvements, but the benchmarks I've seen indicate 4-6% in most things. That isn't enough for me to consider replacing my i7-2600K, you know?

In the past 10 years I've had hardware *need* replacing (as in going bad) maybe 6 or 7 times. Some were hard disks, others were motherboards and PSUs, and another was definitely a PSU. All the rest of my purchases were... well... almost "to relieve boredom". Does that make sense to anyone?

I think I actually get more enjoyment from receiving (and sending) packages than I do from dealing with the excitement of the actual product I've bought. It's a lot like Christmas in some way, even though I know what it is I'm getting. Hard to explain exactly.

Now that I'm unemployed (and have been since late May), money takes on a different meaning. I've been in this situation before so I'm well-aware of how to be responsible (frugal if you will), but I imagine some people haven't. As you get older, you start asking yourself the question "is my money best put somewhere else?" (e.g. retirement fund/investment, savings, etc.) a lot more. Since I've developed health problems, the idea of retiring at age 45 is much more appealing to me than it was when I was 25 (I'm presently 35). I really expected to work until I was in my late 60s/early 70s, but I'm just so destroyed after the past 10-12 years that it's very difficult.

Rambling aside -- I know you can't live life with regrets, but there have been a lot of things I wish I hadn't bought and instead had put the money into my retirement fund so I could retire earlier.

I guess what I'm saying is, it all boils down to what you feel is important (or fun) at that point in time, or what matters in the long term. Try not to have too many regrets, but at the same time be intelligent and reasonable with your purchases. Nobody's going to care if you go out and spontaneously buy a case of Skittles for US$25 -- but what I tend to see online are people going out and spending $8000 or more on insane "gaming rigs" when practically the same thing can be accomplished for $1500. So have fun, but be reasonable! Money doesn't grow on trees.
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Oleg
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I agree with everything you have said. Especially receiving packages. And you are right down the road we all will be asking ourselves " Did i really needed so much? or where did most of my money go?"

Another thing is it is a hard let the toys go. I have bought a 2TB external hard drive 2 years a go, and it still has not been moved form the shelf, and I would probably never use it as my 1TB drive is only half full.



jadinolf
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reply to Oleg

I have no needs at all but I still need to receive emails from Newegg.

I am addicted.

Almost every day something arrives.
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Oleg
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I thought i am an addict buying something every 3 month



Krisnatharok
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Latest purchase, because 1.5 GB isn't enough vram at 1440p:

Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition Vapor-X 3 GB.

It fucking rocks.



signmeuptoo
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reply to Oleg

I used to get more excited about new hardware. Interestingly, one of my sisters, this very evening, when asking me to do a build for her, insisted that I might not be able to get her a build that is minimal cost, that I am too in love with quality and the process. If she only knew how that isn't so much so any longer. Koitsu, as always, a very thoughtful post, and though I have a job right now, my trial period isn't up yet and I don't make much, not enough to live on really. So, yeah, it is like Christmas when deliveries come, but to tell you the truth, if this Phenom quad has to last another couple years, I'm ok with it, because frankly, I'm not racing anyone.

honestly, the toy I want is a hybrid car, or A car, for that matter...
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reply to Oleg

I used to, but I tend not to anymore because of cost.

I think the last two purchases I made based off of want were a Macbook Air (didn't really need a second laptop of the same generation), an QNAP NAS, and a Cisco 3560CG.

As far as desktop components go, I used to try to keep up with the latest and greatest, but I find myself not gaming as much anymore which means I can save on keeping up with video cards, and allows me to actually be more productive in work I bring home for the most part. I have bought other things out of necessity (HP ZR24W, an additional 8GB of RAM to make 24GB) but for the most part I'm content where I'm at, which is nice now that funds are increasingly tight (not dipping into my retirement for new components).


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reply to Oleg

I want what I need and I need what I want. See how nice that works.
Now perhaps I had better get to needing and wanting to get my electronics in order. Currently I have an under utilized managed switch, NAS, Raspberry Pi and IBM 7060 mainframe. No real major expenditures and the 7060 was free.



norwegian
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Outback
reply to Oleg

What is in the pocket sometimes slows down the "biggest and best".

To date though I have not over bought hardware - other than 2 x raptors, which now I know was a total waste of funds for my needs. Somehow HDD's I'd prefer to pay more, similar to the motherboard. Just call it what I consider important. I'd love to have WDD RE4 or a more industrial HDD than a cheap green drive any day, similar to a good quality motherboard.

But alas, funds are not my forte for extra toys - computers included. Families tend to push limits without extras.
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signmeuptoo
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This brings to mind, Oleg brings up an interesting point!

Guys, let's say some of us won the lottery, really big, say over 10 million after taxes and cuts from the cash option (Pipe Dreaming Again!)

Let's say I wanted to outfit myself and my new home with several computers. Let's say 10 of them identical and for F@H and BOINC (Cancer and other diseases distributed computing research).

Let's say 2 more would be HTPCs, one for my entertainment room and one for my bedroom.

Let's say 2 more computers for guests who stay is separate rooms.

Let's say a system for the kitchen for cooking and wine and shopping and database of food and non food stored in the home.

Let's say, for the gaming room, a super super beast, with 4 monster monitors, LAN party capability, Tri or quad SLI, multi processor (probably can't do that right now, yes?), a system built with all the ultimate hardware.

A guardshack system.

Home security system computer with redundency, and every camera and sensor possible.

And finally, a musician's system with professional sound card and tons of MIDI, optical, and other connections, and replete with fantastic speakers. The system could do multitrack recording.

And a big pile of every network, printing, scanning, VOIP, EVERYTHING else a self absorbed lottery winner could want...

Ok, what hardware would you get? You don't have to respond on all of that, but generally, what top of the line items would you focus on for the assorted uses above?

And, of course, 5 systems, each team, for to donate to the two distributed computer teams I am in (Discovery and Helix)

Also, a good quality basic use system, a few of them, that I keep around to give to needy people here and elsewhere, maybe a stockpile of a few of them. Something rock solid stable that CAN came at moderate level, with plenty of everything needed.

Also, a SAN or some other data storage networked system.

On top of this, what other systems would YOU build for your million dollar residence?

I'd have 3 homes, one in CT, one in CA, and one in Cebu, Phils. The CA home (in the Big Sur or Santa Cruze area) would be for part of the year, the place in CT would be the primary residence and would be out in the country where I can design my own geodesic energy green structure. Yes, I'd have windmills, solar arrays, generators, home water heating... So whatever computer is needed for a millionare.

Also, keep in mind, a LOT of money will go to charity, such as Saint Jude's, Post 911, Wounded Warriors, mental health, drug addiction, homeless families, and a health clinic in my girl's home bario on Cebu Island.

Also, a beater system that can be moved to garden shack and/or garage for dirty hands uses...

Yeah, I sound like I'm on drugs, but I only had one beer, 3 days ago...

Also, I'd get the best internet connection reasonably available, say FTTO/H, or several separate cableco connections, or, what, T1 stuff?
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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to Oleg

I bought a whole computer based on want factor. My older one would have worked fine for med settings, but yeah I built a beast desktop because want.


nonymous
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Glendale, AZ
reply to Oleg

If I had some money I would get matching larger monitors for my main computer. Then put its monitor on the secondary computer. Then maybe put ssd drives into the computers for the OS and a couple programs I use.
Probably pocket the rest incase something broke later and needed fixing. Computers are not that great but fast enough for my needs.
Like the Raspberry pi probably buy and play with some arduino and the like small things for fun.


jobond

join:2004-10-21
Raleigh, NC
reply to Krisnatharok

Latest purchase, because 1.5 GB isn't enough vram at 1440p:

Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition Vapor-X 3 GB.

It fucking rocks.

Why do you have to use obscene language?



El Quintron
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said by jobond:

Latest purchase, because 1.5 GB isn't enough vram at 1440p:

Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition Vapor-X 3 GB.

It fucking rocks.

Why do you have to use obscene language?

Because the card is obscenely powerful?


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Archivis
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reply to jobond

said by jobond:

Why do you have to use obscene language?

Because the card is fucking awesome.
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Krisnatharok
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My life has been validated. GG all.



Steve Mehs
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reply to Oleg

Everything I buy is on a want factor. No I didn’t really need a new tablet, but I wanted one anyways. No I don’t really need a smartwatch, but I bought one. No, there was nothing wrong with my $1200 2011 model year Sony ES A/V receiver, but I bought the new 2012 model that replaced it. I can use the excuse I needed a 5th HDMI input and my previous receiver only had 4, but I’m addicted to this stuff and have no problem admitting it. Hell, in December of 2011 I spent $7,000 on Christmas presents for myself in for of electronic toys. For the past few years I’ve kept a list of ‘Things I Want’. And cross them off as I buy them. Most items that have been added in the past few months have been things to replace items I previously purchased and already crossed off. Aside from a few movies on Blu Ray (The Raven, Promethious and The Dark Knight Rises) the only items on my list are the Jawbone Big Jambox Bluetooth speaker, which I will probably be ordering in the next week, and laser jammers for my car. And then that’s it! Now of course I’d really love to have a fully loaded 2013 Lincoln Navigator L for $70,000 or that Sony 84” 4K TV for $25,000, but I keep my ‘Things I Want’ list to more realistic items.

Personal computers are a little bit different. I buy the latest and greatest at the time, use the thing for four years and then configure and buy a new one. My 1 year old HP laptop is still looking pretty nice with a 1080p 3D display, 2.3 GHz quad core processor and 16 GB of RAM. I can still get 3 more years out of it. Hopefully by then real laptops will still be around and I’ll have more options than these stupid puny ‘ultrabooks’ things with their dinky displays.
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