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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to peterboro

Re: Dalton's anti-smoking minions have had enough.

said by peterboro:

said by DKS:

Nope. It's across Ontario. The Medical Officers of Health are united on this one.

Gone was referring to Dalton's support base. Of course the Medical Officers of Health are united when funds are raining down on their units , some with no oversight, from the MOH budget.

No, folks who are dying support this, too. Dying from COPD is a hell of a way to go. The payback, however, in reduced health costs, is quite high. The next campaign will be to promote moderation in consuming alcohol.
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peterboro
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said by DKS:

said by peterboro:

said by DKS:

Nope. It's across Ontario. The Medical Officers of Health are united on this one.

Gone was referring to Dalton's support base. Of course the Medical Officers of Health are united when funds are raining down on their units , some with no oversight, from the MOH budget.

No, folks who are dying support this, too. Dying from COPD is a hell of a way to go. The payback, however, in reduced health costs, is quite high.

Of course those dying support this. There are plenty of other things that could be addressed that have a dramatic effect on health care costs. Of course those are left alone as smokers are the low hanging fruit for harassment and easily demonized by the majority of the population reminiscent of the 30s in Germany.

said by DKS:

The next campaign will be to promote moderation in consuming alcohol.

But..but..but alcohol probably causes as much or more death, injury and expense to the health care system so start clamping down on it like cigarettes. Oh, that's right, it's enjoyed by far more of society and would be harder to demonize those who drink even moderately.


elwoodblues
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said by DKS:

said by peterboro:

said by DKS:

Nope. It's across Ontario. The Medical Officers of Health are united on this one.

Gone was referring to Dalton's support base. Of course the Medical Officers of Health are united when funds are raining down on their units , some with no oversight, from the MOH budget.

. The next campaign will be to promote moderation in consuming alcohol.

Thank you Tea Totaler DKS. Cigs are one thing, cutting off people's booze , now you are ready to entice a riot!
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DKS
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to peterboro
said by peterboro:

But..but..but alcohol probably causes as much or more death, injury and expense to the health care system so start clamping down on it like cigarettes. Oh, that's right, it's enjoyed by far more of society and would be harder to demonize those who drink even moderately.

Just wait about 6 months.
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DKS
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reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues:

Thank you Tea Totaler DKS. Cigs are one thing, cutting off people's booze , now you are ready to entice a riot!

I said MODERATION, not prohibition.
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elwoodblues
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Define "Moderation".

Does Dalton increase taxes on booze in the name of "Social Responsibility".
Does Dalton curtail the hours of the LCBO to make it harder to get booze.
Does Dalton shut down the Wine Stores?


DKS
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said by elwoodblues:

Define "Moderation".

Does Dalton increase taxes on booze in the name of "Social Responsibility".
Does Dalton curtail the hours of the LCBO to make it harder to get booze.
Does Dalton shut down the Wine Stores?

Nope. Those aren't on the radar. Sin taxes are a revenue matter, not a health matter. Moderation means developing a culture where binge drinking is strongly discouraged, among other things.
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elwoodblues
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said by DKS:

said by elwoodblues:

Define "Moderation".

Does Dalton increase taxes on booze in the name of "Social Responsibility".
Does Dalton curtail the hours of the LCBO to make it harder to get booze.
Does Dalton shut down the Wine Stores?

Nope. Those aren't on the radar. Sin taxes are a revenue matter, not a health matter. Moderation means developing a culture where binge drinking is strongly discouraged, among other things.

BUT DKS,you've hit the nail on the head, Moderation leads to less revenue, and thus has to be made up elsewhere.
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No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......