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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
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reply to cymraeg

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

I don't know, cy. I've levelled only my DK - and I usually topped the charts in dungeons (from 85 on), even starting heroics (unless Muzzle was along). Once dps got more gear I fell behind in heroics, but it took at least a week. i have no clue why tanks would be that low.


Immer
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reply to cymraeg
pally tank damage output is still low. As for the warrior, if he wasn't tanking a bunch of melee adds... then I can see having low dmg due to slow vengeance building.


cymraeg
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the sha fight has a ton of melee during the doubt phase, the priest wasnt dispelling the nothingness debuff, the tank kept argueing with me about it too, but w/e. i thought vengeance was instant to 2% of the hit dealt, even if he only had aggro of 3 of the shades thats what 6k extra ap, i could be wrong. guess i need to do some more tanking to understand what the hell.
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DarkLogix
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Well in the doubt phase (guessing that's the add phase) all should stack up in the boss, for AoE splash damage and healing.


cymraeg
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agreed dark, all 3 tanks were telling everyone to down their own shade, i kept telling the tanks to aggro them all together so we could aoe them down fast, of course on the final attempt which we killed the sha that was what happened, the dk and myself that were pulling 16k each could down all of them faster.
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."



DarkLogix
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Ya as a fire mage there's almost always some splash AOE.
then if they're stacked I'll pop an AoE and those shades don't last long. (also dragon's breath if I'm in position to get them all in it.)



Jobbie
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reply to cymraeg

said by cymraeg:

agreed dark, all 3 tanks were telling everyone to down their own shade, i kept telling the tanks to aggro them all together so we could aoe them down fast, of course on the final attempt which we killed the sha that was what happened, the dk and myself that were pulling 16k each could down all of them faster.

The shadows don't have a threat table they fixate on their respective target, that is why they all need to bring to the middle for aoe.
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cymraeg
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umm i could aggro them, i would grab the healers every time, cause he was wasting mana on killing his.



Immer
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You guys are talking about different Sha's. Jobbie is talking about the Sha of Doubt (dungeon boss), and Cymraeg is talking about Sha of Anger (world boss).

edit: or am I the one who isn't tracking?



Jobbie
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reply to cymraeg
You can aggro them but they won't target you they will stay on their respective parent, that phase is a dps/healer phase not a tank one. Everybody needs to bring the stuff to the middle for aoe and healer just needs to be able to keep all alive.
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DarkLogix
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reply to cymraeg
Easiest is just stack on boss then they'll all come to one spot.

Seemed like the logical strat when we first did it on launch day.



DarkLogix
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reply to Immer

said by Immer:

You guys are talking about different Sha's. Jobbie is talking about the Sha of Doubt (dungeon boss), and Cymraeg is talking about Sha of Anger (world boss).

From the dispells and such it looks like cym is talking about the dungeon boss, he mentioned going through several tanks due to wipes though)

quote:
the priest wasnt dispelling the nothingness debuff
I don't know if anger has that debuff or not but I know doubt does.


Immer
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lol.. I saw "3 tanks" and instantly thought Sha of Anger, lol... I suck.



Jobbie
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This morning had an interesting convo with a hunter on a heroic run, agi mail legs drop and I roll and won, so I was automatically labeled as a "scum ninja looter" by him, and I just told them that I won it on a fair roll, It got so bad I had to leave the instance.

Unless I am in a guild run, if an upgrade for any of my main specs drops I roll need hoping I get it, if not I just keep queueing.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.



DarkLogix
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Guild groups Rock Am I right?


cymraeg
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reply to Jobbie
what were you on, enh shammy? if so then fuck him. hell even if you were ele.



McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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Yeah, if I'm solo in a heroic and the dice is clickable, I click it...My logic is this: If I don't, some other asshole will. So it's either be righteous and receive nothing, or join the asshattery and get loot to vendor.



Nick D
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join:2010-02-04
Orange, CA

reply to Endbringer

said by Endbringer:

Siege of Niuzao

any other tanks have issues on the trash in this heroic???

Didn't see an answer to this yet.

There are two types of adds in those packs:
1. Resin dudes. They encase a random player in resin, and drop that giant shell which causes them to take no damage. Interrupt liberally, and drag them out of the shell.

2. Big warrior dudes. They random charge people. Nothing you can do about that.

Suspecting it was either you getting encased in resin early (they cast it on the pull), and/or you didn't know about the random charge.

PS Disrupting Shout and Shockwave? Nuthin' castin' nuthin' ever.


Jobbie
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reply to cymraeg
I was healing as resto, the thing is that there is no asshattery going on, heroics are the way to gear up both of your main specs (you only get two), there is no MS and OS in there specially when queueing solo, when I tank I fully expect those plater weares to roll on tank gear.

Guild > Pugs
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.


cymraeg
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even that is understandable, mail is the primary thing no matter what is on it,save int mail that is another story, shaman and hunter should be rolling on it
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."


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