 Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:22 | reply to brianiscool
Re: Samsung But Apple buys from Samsung! So even if Samsung lost the case, Samsung is still making bank. Unless Apple fired them as a supplier ;P |
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 SuntopPremium
join:2000-03-23
Choteau, MT | reply to tshirt
Well I cannot argue that HOWEVER they could have shared the profits later to the guy. Maybe they did with stock or something. I do not know. |
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SuntopPremium
join:2000-03-23
Choteau, MT | reply to tanzam75
My apologies. I did not mean to make you think that. Excuse me for being a lil silly when I WROTE IT. And thank you for letting me know that he did get paid properly for that. I did not know that till now. |
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| Don't worry about it. I've also written silly things from time to time.
Best way I've found of avoiding this is to do my research ahead of time. That way, I can form my opinions based on facts instead of assumptions. |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
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Tim Paterson the guy who wrote it (and designed a basic computer to go with it.) actually worked for MS several times
Rod Brock the guy who hired Paterson to work at SCP go $50k and a lifetime license to MS-DOS made a few million reselling it and then recieved another million when MS bought the license back.
So everyone did ok, but it is business, you plan to buy low and sell high, but holding out for highest may leave you with a bunch of rotting fruit.
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Hardly. There's been "stealing" from all sides.
This is all just stupid. IP law is ridiculous. |
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said by ropeguru:said by cpsycho:I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.
Yes I can because I hold a patent on making boo boo's. You made Honey Boo Boo? |
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said by pandora:said by cpsycho:Thing is Cr-apple should not have won, when prior art said they could not win. Square with round corners, Cr-apple: "yeah we came up with that idea". In reality they did no such thing. They just had the jury stocked with apple supporters and a judge that was an apple supporter.
The round corner thing is ludicrous, but also a juror not indicating a potential conflict in a case of this size is unacceptable. Nobody should own round corners, if Apple does, no car, no flashlight, or door knob, or spoon / spork is safe. Crapple's lawyers are already researching this. |
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said by fuziwuzi:said by brianiscool:You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.
No. Hell No. |
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Come on now. If they guy knew what his OS was going to be worth in the future, he wouldn't have sold the rights to it for $50k.
And if he knew the potential, he would have put together his own way to market and sell it.
Microsoft didn't really owe him anything after buying it. That's how business works. |
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ajac
join:2000-08-15
Norman, OK | reply to brianiscool
hell no asshole |
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 said by tanzam75:
If you want to appear more than 13 years old, I recommend that you cool it with the "M$." That stuff became old in 2002.
No.. its part of the official club handshake.  I know suntop is a member sort of like the handshakes of masons in the past.
I use it all the time, and will continue to use any as a form of derogatory reference to them, crapple and other companies.
If you would like I have some other terms for them which I would be glad to use... but they most definitely are not for the "kumbaya pc" crowd here, so m$ and crapple, crapble will have to suffice.
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The only problem is this is Apple's only win against Samsung. They are losing these suits worldwide. And this one will get overturned.
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sk1939Premium
join:2010-10-23
Washington, DC
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said by NOCTech75:said by ropeguru:said by cpsycho:I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.
Yes I can because I hold a patent on making boo boo's. You made Honey Boo Boo? That would explain so much... |
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 DrModemPremium
join:2006-10-19
USA
kudos:1
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said by brianiscool:You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.
Curse those rectangle thieves. |
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Outland
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said by jjeffeory:Hardly. There's been "stealing" from all sides.
This is all just stupid. IP law is ridiculous.
This is a bunch of guys in a basement filled with gasoline, each has a few matches. Any company stupid enough to light their match, is going to grind all development to a halt while everyone sues everyone (or using the metaphor, while the house burns down).
Apple could find itself mired in a litigation nightmare that won't end.
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | reply to fuziwuzi
It's clear that Samsung _knew_ they were taking ideas from Apple. I think the trial turned to be more about the fact that Samsung _knew_ they were taking from Apple and less about the valitity of Apple's patents to start with. Samsung documents showed they knew they were taking from Apple and Google also warned them.
These appeals are all purely legal moves. They need to send a message to Apple that they are not just going to roll over and collecting on the judgement may take years. It's all an effort to get some type of leverage with Apple and then they can discuss a settlment. A condition of the settlement will be that no one can mention the amount. That there is always the doubt as to the extent of Samsung's guilt as it's not know if they pay $1 less then the judgement or $50.
Samsung will end up paying Apple probably $500k - $750k and work in a deal that Apple won't object to those devices being sold. At the end of the day Samsung will still be the #2 phone manufacture and in the future will pass by Apple by continuing to develop better products. |
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Ok, so if Samsung copied their "rounded corners" and some of their software who gives a care?
Apple copied a hand held device that lets you call people O_o
Smartphones were out before the iPhone came out, they simply put all there was into one neat little package. It wasn't really that innovative. Same with iPad. Sleek design, but tablets had been out for ages. |
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | reply to Suntop
And those companies are welcome to file suit aganist Apple if they feel they have a case. "Stealing" (quoted because I'm not saying they did) is easy against someone who just came up with an idea. I can see a building and make one of my own based on what I saw... this might not be "stealing". It's up to the building owner/designer to prove that something was "stolen".
So saying someone "stole" from someone else is all fine and good... but it's not really saying anything without context. In this case you are throwing in a lot of different things all together and many things that are not related. Xerox/PARC is about the a GUI on desktop computers. Job then claimed that he asked to use it but Gates "stole" it as he did not even ask. Truth is, neither stole it as you claim. To be accurate, they did not invent the GUI that they used.
But again... nothing to do with this. |
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cOOLguy
join:2009-09-10
Torrington, CT | reply to Suntop
In a nice way, I want to tell you that you dont have a clue about what you are talking about.
IBM approached Bill Gates for an OS, but he sent them to Gary WhatsHisName who invented CP/M. The first time IBM tried to talk to Gary, he blew them off because he was flying his new plane. The second time, he blew them off because he refused to sign an NDA.
So IBM played hard ball with Bill (Bill just wanted to write Basic, and leave that OS thing to Gary, another stunningly stupid error just like missing that Internet thing, and 640K of memory thing.)
Bill bought the code from Gary. Bill came up with idea of licensing software but not selling it.
Bill got rich
Gary got jealous.
Read all about it in 'Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" |
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