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Re: Samsung

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:15:48 EDT

Suntop posted : Ahh Pirates of Silicon Valley. Great movie.

Re: Samsung

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:11:40 EDT

Suntop posted : Okay I will read it. I do not know much I admit that. Thank you for being kind and telling me I am wrong. I appreciate your post and thank you for the book suggestion. I will go look for it at my library.

Re: Samsung

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 09:52:22 EDT

fuziwuzi posted : Will Apple in-kind pay Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc. for the patents Apple has been stealing and refusing to negotiate a license?
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Re: Samsung

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 00:22:30 EDT

cOOLguy posted : In a nice way, I want to tell you that you dont have a clue about what you are talking about.

IBM approached Bill Gates for an OS, but he sent them to Gary WhatsHisName who invented CP/M. The first time IBM tried to talk to Gary, he blew them off because he was flying his new plane. The second time, he blew them off because he refused to sign an NDA.

So IBM played hard ball with Bill (Bill just wanted to write Basic, and leave that OS thing to Gary, another stunningly stupid error just like missing that Internet thing, and 640K of memory thing.)
Bill bought the code from Gary. Bill came up with idea of licensing software but not selling it.

Bill got rich

Gary got jealous.

Read all about it in 'Barbarians Led by Bill Gates"

Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:34:04 EDT

tcope posted : And those companies are welcome to file suit aganist Apple if they feel they have a case. "Stealing" (quoted because I'm not saying they did) is easy against someone who just came up with an idea. I can see a building and make one of my own based on what I saw... this might not be "stealing". It's up to the building owner/designer to prove that something was "stolen".

So saying someone "stole" from someone else is all fine and good... but it's not really saying anything without context. In this case you are throwing in a lot of different things all together and many things that are not related. Xerox/PARC is about the a GUI on desktop computers. Job then claimed that he asked to use it but Gates "stole" it as he did not even ask. Truth is, neither stole it as you claim. To be accurate, they did not invent the GUI that they used.

But again... nothing to do with this.

Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:00:51 EDT

anon posted : Ok, so if Samsung copied their "rounded corners" and some of their software who gives a care?

Apple copied a hand held device that lets you call people O_o

Smartphones were out before the iPhone came out, they simply put all there was into one neat little package. It wasn't really that innovative. Same with iPad. Sleek design, but tablets had been out for ages.

Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:43:39 EDT

tcope posted : It's clear that Samsung _knew_ they were taking ideas from Apple. I think the trial turned to be more about the fact that Samsung _knew_ they were taking from Apple and less about the valitity of Apple's patents to start with. Samsung documents showed they knew they were taking from Apple and Google also warned them.

These appeals are all purely legal moves. They need to send a message to Apple that they are not just going to roll over and collecting on the judgement may take years. It's all an effort to get some type of leverage with Apple and then they can discuss a settlment. A condition of the settlement will be that no one can mention the amount. That there is always the doubt as to the extent of Samsung's guilt as it's not know if they pay $1 less then the judgement or $50.

Samsung will end up paying Apple probably $500k - $750k and work in a deal that Apple won't object to those devices being sold. At the end of the day Samsung will still be the #2 phone manufacture and in the future will pass by Apple by continuing to develop better products.

Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:23:16 EDT

pandora posted :

said by jjeffeory:

Hardly. There's been "stealing" from all sides.
This is all just stupid. IP law is ridiculous.

This is a bunch of guys in a basement filled with gasoline, each has a few matches. Any company stupid enough to light their match, is going to grind all development to a halt while everyone sues everyone (or using the metaphor, while the house burns down).

Apple could find itself mired in a litigation nightmare that won't end.
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Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:01:13 EDT

DrModem posted :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

Curse those rectangle thieves.

Re: Samsung

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:18:38 EDT

sk1939 posted :

said by NOCTech75:

said by ropeguru:

said by cpsycho:

I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.

Yes I can because I hold a patent on making boo boo's.

You made Honey Boo Boo?

That would explain so much...

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:20:31 EDT

Anonymous posted : The only problem is this is Apple's only win against Samsung. They are losing these suits worldwide. And this one will get overturned.
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Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:52:51 EDT

TuxRaiderPen posted : :D

said by tanzam75:
If you want to appear more than 13 years old, I recommend that you cool it with the "M$." That stuff became old in 2002.

No.. its part of the official club handshake. :p :p :p I know suntop is a member sort of like the handshakes of masons in the past.

I use it all the time, and will continue to use any as a form of derogatory reference to them, crapple and other companies.

If you would like I have some other terms for them which I would be glad to use... but they most definitely are not for the "kumbaya pc" crowd here, so m$ and crapple, crapble will have to suffice.
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Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:41:29 EDT

ajac posted : hell no asshole

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:34:24 EDT

anon posted : Come on now. If they guy knew what his OS was going to be worth in the future, he wouldn't have sold the rights to it for $50k.

And if he knew the potential, he would have put together his own way to market and sell it.

Microsoft didn't really owe him anything after buying it. That's how business works.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:04:53 EDT

PapaMidnight posted :

said by fuziwuzi:

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

No.

Hell No.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:14:15 EDT

NOCTech75 posted :

said by pandora:

said by cpsycho:

Thing is Cr-apple should not have won, when prior art said they could not win. Square with round corners, Cr-apple: "yeah we came up with that idea". In reality they did no such thing. They just had the jury stocked with apple supporters and a judge that was an apple supporter.

Crapple's lawyers are already researching this.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:13:45 EDT

NOCTech75 posted :

said by ropeguru:

said by cpsycho:

I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.

Yes I can because I hold a patent on making boo boo's.

You made Honey Boo Boo?

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:52:54 EDT

jjeffeory posted : Hardly. There's been "stealing" from all sides.
This is all just stupid. IP law is ridiculous.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:07:12 EDT

tshirt posted : Tim Paterson the guy who wrote it (and designed a basic computer to go with it.) actually worked for MS several times
Rod Brock the guy who hired Paterson to work at SCP go $50k and a lifetime license to MS-DOS made a few million reselling it and then recieved another million when MS bought the license back.
So everyone did ok, but it is business, you plan to buy low and sell high, but holding out for highest may leave you with a bunch of rotting fruit.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:56:14 EDT

tanzam75 posted : Don't worry about it. I've also written silly things from time to time.

Best way I've found of avoiding this is to do my research ahead of time. That way, I can form my opinions based on facts instead of assumptions.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:34:35 EDT

Suntop posted : My apologies. I did not mean to make you think that. Excuse me for being a lil silly when I WROTE IT. And thank you for letting me know that he did get paid properly for that. I did not know that till now.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:32:29 EDT

Suntop posted : Well I cannot argue that HOWEVER they could have shared the profits later to the guy. Maybe they did with stock or something. I do not know.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:26:04 EDT

Smith6612 posted : But Apple buys from Samsung! So even if Samsung lost the case, Samsung is still making bank. Unless Apple fired them as a supplier ;P

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:45:57 EDT

EdmundGerber posted :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

Hey brianisStunned?

No.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:27:16 EDT

tanzam75 posted :

said by Suntop:

Oh on a side note, Microsoft is just as bad. But they stole from APPLE who stole.... It is so sad no one remembers computer history. For example M$-Dos was bought for around $50,000 from Seattle Computer. Which is not even 10% of what Microsoft should of given the creator of DOS. They should have at least given the creator a few million.

If you want to appear more than 13 years old, I recommend that you cool it with the "M$." That stuff became old in 2002.

As a matter of fact, the creator of MS-DOS did get millions -- at least a few, possibly more.

Tim Patterson later went to work for Microsoft over three separate stretches. The pre-IPO stock options he got would've made him a deca-millionaire, assuming they vested before he left.

He also went back to work for Microsoft post-IPO, in 1990. This time, he stayed 8 years, so those options definitely vested. He would've become at least a millionaire, even if he sold immediately upon vesting. If he held onto them until he left, he would've become a multi-millionaire.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:52:53 EDT

BF69 posted : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S_JgkiW3qI

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:46:41 EDT

BF69 posted :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

Try paying attention.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:44:33 EDT

tshirt posted :

said by Suntop:

It is so sad no one remembers computer history. For example M$-Dos was bought for around $50,000 from Seattle Computer. Which is not even 10% of what Microsoft should of given the creator of DOS. They should have at least given the creator a few million.

They paid (what was at the time) a huge amount, for an O/S they weren't sure they could resell. BTW at that time MS didn't have a few million, even the $50k was risking everything. Had the IBM thing not worked out, MS would likely have been a blip on the PC timeline.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:42:29 EDT

birdfeedr posted :

said by fanboiiscool :

the hampster cage

where any good lawyer can uncover dirty laundry to defend his assertion the deck was stacked. Lift the lid and you'll see it's all a card game.

Thanks for the really mixed metaphor. :D

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:27:39 EDT

mob posted :

said by TheHelpful1:

QFTFT???

Quoted For The Fvcking Truth

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:10:23 EDT

Suntop posted : You sir are a fool. Apple stole ideas SINCE THEY STARTED... Xerox anyone? And you Apple fan, do some research and find out about that company you are defending! Example, the iPAD the design was based on a media device that was released by another company that made it in 2005 or 2006 before the iPad was released.

Oh on a side note, Microsoft is just as bad. But they stole from APPLE who stole.... It is so sad no one remembers computer history. For example M$-Dos was bought for around $50,000 from Seattle Computer. Which is not even 10% of what Microsoft should of given the creator of DOS. They should have at least given the creator a few million.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:26:30 EDT

TheHelpful1 posted :

said by mob:

said by fanboiiscool :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

Sorry fanboiiscool, but they lost because of a stacked deck. And now the world is getting a peek under the covers of the hampster cage that is the american court system. Fair and just my left butt check.

The courts have become about popularity and who you can buy !

+1 and QFTFT!

QFTFT???
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Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:06:35 EDT

decifal posted : Um, no, and if you want to get technical, Samsung has patents on the 4g technology apple is using in their Iphone5..

Personally I'm looking forward to a retrial and hopefully see a smackdown on the crying.. I would rather apple come back with an even greater product than to just sue the competition...

Lame

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:57:04 EDT

cpsycho posted : :D

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:52:08 EDT

mob posted :

said by fanboiiscool :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

+1 and QFTFT!
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Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:36:44 EDT

ropeguru posted :

said by cpsycho:

I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.

Yes I can because I hold a patent on making boo boo's.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:35:19 EDT

cpsycho posted : I made a boo boo, you can sue me for a billion dollars.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:32:28 EDT

ropeguru posted :

said by cpsycho:

Was it really "square with round corners"? If so, they certainly should not have won as their devices are rectangles with round corners.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:28:14 EDT

pandora posted :

said by cpsycho:

The round corner thing is ludicrous, but also a juror not indicating a potential conflict in a case of this size is unacceptable.

Nobody should own round corners, if Apple does, no car, no flashlight, or door knob, or spoon / spork is safe.
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Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:25:39 EDT

anon posted :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:11:05 EDT

cpsycho posted : Thing is Cr-apple should not have won, when prior art said they could not win. Square with round corners, Cr-apple: "yeah we came up with that idea". In reality they did no such thing. They just had the jury stocked with apple supporters and a judge that was an apple supporter.

Re: Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:07:55 EDT

fuziwuzi posted :

said by brianiscool:

You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.

No.
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Samsung

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:56:24 EDT

brianiscool posted : You lost deal with it! You are thieves and stole from Apple.