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Slagathor

join:2002-01-07
Merrill, WI

[HSI] Charter + Astraweb = ????

Is possibly Charter slowing down traffic for usenet???

I am using there ssl, with port 443, tried port 563 also.

Have been re signed up with them for the last 3 months, and have only gotten about 120GB total, so they cant complain of overuse...:D

Any ideas or just a bad last couple days....

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msmisfit

join:2004-09-13
Lawrenceville, GA
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1 edit
reply to Slagathor

Re: [HSI] Charter + Astraweb = ????

I didn't know Charter used SSL for usenet.

My Charter setup is unsecured and uses Port 587.

I'm not having any "slow" problems with usenet, but my usenet servers only have text newsgroups. Sorry I can't help.

My mistake, I thought maybe Charter had switched their usenet service provider, and I think you're talking about a subscription to AstraWeb.

Maybe AstraWeb is just having a system overload?


JTY

join:2004-05-29
Ellensburg, WA
reply to Slagathor

I haven't had any issues with Astraweb. That said, Astraweb is known for having slow performance at times when they are under heavy load.



srtboy

@army.mil
reply to Slagathor

try using a different news client like sabnzbd and see if that helps. I have had issues in the past with either the operating system or news client software.



Dogg
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Belleville, IL
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reply to Slagathor

Charter has always limited the DL speed of their newsgroups. You can pull headers at the full speed of your connection. Otherwise you are limited to two (2) streams at a limited rate (I think it is/was 125k).

If you want to use newsgroups, buy a newsgroup account from a reseller. Then your limitations are whatever limits are imposed by your newsgroup account and your Charter DL speed. Charter doesn't limit/restrict access to newsgroups not supplied by them.
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nightshade74
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join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL

said by Dogg:

If you want to use newsgroups, buy a newsgroup account from a reseller.

Um... Astraweb is one of the larger resellers of Usenet access..
With that said I can get 100 Meg from Highwinds.

kbowman

join:2010-10-30
Pasadena, CA
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to Slagathor

If you are using ssl then it is encrypted and they don't even know its usenet traffic. I haven't had any usenet issues with charter just general peak overload. Are you experiencing slow speeds elsewhere because it could be a general charter speed issue or one with astraweb.



oneoone

join:2010-01-20
Lagrange, GA
kudos:1
reply to Slagathor

you need to make sure as well your usenet provider offers unlimited speeds. My old provider would only let me max out at around 30megs and I'm on 100meg service, switched to a provider that offers unlimited speed and I now average 90megs


Slagathor

join:2002-01-07
Merrill, WI

1 edit
reply to Slagathor

It's just from Astra, everything else is fast, using Newsbin pro.

It's not just slow, sometimes theres nothing, been trying to snag a 48gb file for the last 3 days....

Checked the log:
[21:41:35] ERROR NNTPSocket - Server:ssl-us.astraweb.com NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout



mtnarea

@charter.com

1 edit
reply to Anon

He asked a simple question of whether Charter shapes traffic or if he's having another issue. That is a legitimate question. Some ISPs have been known to shape or throttle traffic so it's not completely far fetched to ask.



mmainprize

join:2001-12-06
Houghton Lake, MI
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to Slagathor

said by Slagathor:

It's just from Astra, everything else is fast, using Newsbin pro.

It's not just slow, sometimes theres nothing, been trying to snag a 48gb file for the last 3 days....

Checked the log:
[21:41:35] ERROR NNTPSocket - Server:ssl-us.astraweb.com NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout

I suppose it's on Astra's end, so I can take off my tinfoil hat, eh troll....

You can do a trace route to the news server and see if it hit a slow down along the path. I have had issues in the past where a outside router in the the path was bad/overloaded and my News server paid the price.

With that said my news server had more then one server farm i could connect to and they also had different port that could be used. If i changed port some times that would cause it to be routed differently and i would get better speeds. Other time i would be slow on the east coast server so i would connect to the west coast server and it would be better.

You need to look into these options with Astraweb.


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said by mmainprize:

Other time i would be slow on the east coast server so i would connect to the west coast server and it would be better.

You need to look into these options with Astraweb.

Astra has two server farms. One on the west coast and then in Amsterdam.

I would bet that error in Newsbin is causing your slow speeds. With that error you have a connection or connections not being utilized (unless they are reconnecting immediately after disconnection). May try disabling SSL and using a non standard port to see if that eliminates that error.
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NormanS
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reply to msmisfit

said by msmisfit:

I didn't know Charter used SSL for usenet.

My Charter setup is unsecured and uses Port 587.

Port 587 for unsecured Usenet? Unsecured NNTP should be port 119. Port 587 is for SMTP with (usually) TLS. Unless Astraweb is specifying 587 instead of 119.
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cork1958
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reply to Slagathor

Wow!

Almost surprised to find this many replies to a question on newsgroups!

Haven't heard of anyone posting asking about that in a long time.

Would've never guessed anyone still even used newsgroups. Been a LONG time since I have.
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Slagathor

join:2002-01-07
Merrill, WI
reply to Slagathor

tracert results, did one to the ssl and regular:

C:\Users\slagathor>tracert ssl-us.astraweb.com
 
Tracing route to ssl-us.astraweb.com [216.151.153.129]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     1 ms     1 ms     5 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
  2     8 ms     9 ms    10 ms  10.133.20.1
  3     9 ms     9 ms     7 ms  csw01wauswi-gbe-9-29.waus.wi.charter.com [96.34.22.72]
  4    18 ms    16 ms    16 ms  crr02stptwi-tge-0-1-2-0.stpt.wi.charter.com [96.34.16.236]
  5    16 ms    11 ms    12 ms  crr01stptwi-tge-0-4-0-13.stpt.wi.charter.com [96.34.18.56]
  6    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  crr02euclwi-tge-0-0-0-4.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.34.16.194]
  7    19 ms    15 ms    15 ms  bbr02euclwi-tge-0-0-0-0.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.34.2.6]
  8    35 ms    22 ms    37 ms  bbr01chcgil-bue-1.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.0.9]
  9    22 ms    27 ms    21 ms  prr01chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.3.9]
 10    23 ms    24 ms    29 ms  be-10-805-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.231.205]
 11    25 ms    23 ms    23 ms  pos-2-1-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.37]
 12    24 ms    24 ms    23 ms  68.86.88.21
 13    48 ms    47 ms    47 ms  68.86.85.62
 14    60 ms    59 ms    60 ms  pos-1-10-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.129]
 15    96 ms    95 ms    96 ms  pos-0-11-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.37]
 16    90 ms    87 ms    89 ms  pos-2-10-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.189]
 17    89 ms    91 ms    88 ms  pos-0-2-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.10]
 18    88 ms    87 ms    87 ms  66.208.233.234
 19    89 ms   122 ms    88 ms  216.151.153.129
 
Trace complete.
 
C:\Users\slagathor>tracert us.news.astraweb.com
 
Tracing route to us.news.astraweb.com [8.17.249.105]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
  2     9 ms     7 ms     9 ms  10.133.20.1
  3    10 ms    17 ms     7 ms  csw01wauswi-gbe-9-29.waus.wi.charter.com [96.34.22.72]
  4    14 ms    14 ms    11 ms  crr02stptwi-tge-0-1-2-0.stpt.wi.charter.com [96.34.16.236]
  5    21 ms    11 ms    11 ms  crr01stptwi-tge-0-5-0-12.stpt.wi.charter.com [96.34.18.60]
  6    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  crr02euclwi-tge-0-0-0-4.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.34.16.194]
  7    20 ms    20 ms    15 ms  bbr02euclwi-tge-0-2-0-2.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.34.1.140]
  8    30 ms    23 ms    24 ms  bbr01chcgil-bue-1.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.0.9]
  9    28 ms    22 ms    27 ms  prr01chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.3.9]
 10    27 ms    21 ms    21 ms  be-10-805-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.231.205]
 11    28 ms    24 ms    27 ms  pos-2-4-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.161]
 12    32 ms    23 ms    23 ms  68.86.88.41
 13    54 ms    51 ms    53 ms  68.86.89.10
 14    61 ms    58 ms    59 ms  pos-0-4-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.221]
 15    97 ms    95 ms   135 ms  pos-0-14-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.141]
 16   122 ms   138 ms    88 ms  pos-2-9-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.88.57]
 17    90 ms    91 ms    87 ms  pos-0-3-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.18]
 18    91 ms    87 ms    89 ms  66.208.233.234
 19    93 ms   123 ms   118 ms  8.17.249.105
 
Trace complete.
 
C:\Users\slagathor>
 


NormanS
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reply to cork1958

said by cork1958:

Wow!

Almost surprised to find this many replies to a question on newsgroups!

Haven't heard of anyone posting asking about that in a long time.

Would've never guessed anyone still even used newsgroups. Been a LONG time since I have.

I still use them, and will continue to use them until the last NNTP server on the Internet shuts down. Preferred over web-based forums when I have a choice. I use 40tude Dialog instead of Google Groups:

40tude Dialog w/ NNTP service.

Although I don't use NNTP for piracy, it seems much preferred over filesharing protocols such as BitTorrent. There is even an active DSLR forum:

»Filesharing Software
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Dogg
Premium
join:2003-06-11
Belleville, IL
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to nightshade74

said by nightshade74:

said by Dogg:

If you want to use newsgroups, buy a newsgroup account from a reseller.

Um... Astraweb is one of the larger resellers of Usenet access..
With that said I can get 100 Meg from Highwinds.

Yes, I know. But I don't recall off hand whom Charter uses. And I wasn't sure if he if was referring to Charter news or Astraweb direct news.

Thus I also stated he is only limited by the reseller, not Charter.

relax.
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nightshade74
Yet another genxer
Premium
join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL

Charter has never used Astraweb.
They use Highwinds.



mmainprize

join:2001-12-06
Houghton Lake, MI
Reviews:
·Charter

1 edit
reply to Slagathor

said by Slagathor:

tracert results, did one to the ssl and regular:

Well i don't see any real slow downs that would cause the problem you are having, so it most likely is the Astraweb server that is not responding. I had trouble at times with NewsBin program, where it would make connections and drop them then make more and i would also get errors about to many connection from the news server. Like when the news server only allow 20 connection and i make 25 or so, it would slow down and stop at times because of that. So i had to lower the number of connections i allowed NewsBin to make below the max number allow by the news server account i was paying for to stop those error.

Check your log for to many connection errors.

Here is a troubleshooter for astraweb
»helpdesk.astraweb.com/index.php?···rentid=0

a1_Andy
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join:2005-12-29
Oshawa, ON
reply to Slagathor

Might be bumping a old topic here but still I feel I should chime in.
I can confirm the astraweb slowdown. I'm in Canada on bell. After the bell hop's I also hit comcast then astraweb. Comcast does throttle usenet and 'maybe' that is the problem? Or astraweb is just overloaded. It only seems to happen on Sunday nights. Normally I pull the files at 28 Mbps then on Sunday nights (the last 4 weeks) get maybe 2 Mbps on all ports, ssl or not if I'm lucky.
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NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC

1 edit

said by a1_Andy:

Might be bumping a old topic here but still I feel I should chime in.
I can confirm the astraweb slowdown. I'm in Canada on bell. After the bell hop's I also hit comcast then astraweb. Comcast does throttle usenet and 'maybe' that is the problem?

Not on the "Last Mile" connection to their own customers. I doubt that they throttle peering bandwidth sold to other providers, either.

Actually, this is the first time I have heard of Comcast providing upstream bandwidth to other providers!

After really looking at the one tracert, it looks like Comcast provides peering for Astraweb? Anyway, I doubt that they would throttle a peering route.

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cryptic1911

join:2010-01-24
Willimantic, CT
reply to cork1958

said by cork1958:

Wow!

Almost surprised to find this many replies to a question on newsgroups!

Haven't heard of anyone posting asking about that in a long time.

Would've never guessed anyone still even used newsgroups. Been a LONG time since I have.

The first rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club

Cat's out of the bag now :P