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Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:01:09 EDT

djlar posted : Damn i want that freaking mount from the headless horseman.. many many attempts and no dice, it must been 4 years of attempts now..

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:50:58 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by DarkLogix:

said by Immer:

said by DarkLogix:

BTW are we going to farm the hallows end boss?

Is gluon fusion the easiest way to produce a Higgs particle?

lol... yes, we will be farming the holiday boss.

That depends on your definition of easy, quantum mechanics says there is a possibility of a Higgs boson just appearing from nothing, though the percent chance is exponentially low it would be "easier".

BAZZZINGA!!!
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Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:47:23 EDT

cymraeg posted : *knock*knock*knock Jobbie
*knock*knock*knock Jobbie

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:47:05 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by Immer:

said by DarkLogix:

BTW are we going to farm the hallows end boss?

Is gluon fusion the easiest way to produce a Higgs particle?

lol... yes, we will be farming the holiday boss.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:46:17 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by cymraeg:

settle down Sheldon.

You are in my spot.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:44:40 EDT

cymraeg posted : settle down Sheldon.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:43:30 EDT

Immer posted :

said by DarkLogix:

BTW are we going to farm the hallows end boss?

Is gluon fusion the easiest way to produce a Higgs particle?

lol... yes, we will be farming the holiday boss.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:42:30 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Ya mages and locks can't use spirit but it's always LET use roll need on it.

In a random heroic just the other day a staff dropped and I said I wish that didn't have spirit, because unlike other mages I flat out refuse to use spirit gear or to ever roll on it.

that's one reason I like ML sometimes, and I worry that LFR will give me an item that's an ilvl upgrade but has spirit.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:41:31 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by djlar:

Oh I forgot another ninja, was before 90, on one of those 87 dungeons... int spirit haste neck piece, last boss, yet another lock rolls need and wins it.. (unless I'm mistaken locks can't use spirit"

That I can pass, still is an item he can use and the spirit while not idea, has its uses for a caster.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:40:31 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by DarkLogix:

BTW are we going to farm the hallows end boss?

You can count on that.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:38:33 EDT

djlar posted : Oh I forgot another ninja, was before 90, on one of those 87 dungeons... int spirit haste neck piece, last boss, yet another lock rolls need and wins it.. (unless I'm mistaken locks can't use spirit"

before I could argue he left party... it seems most douches will roll need on all last boss gear since we can't do anything about it..

I wish they fix that soon, say a str DPS 2 hander dropped and I had the option to roll need, of course I hit DE/Greed, but I could have ninja'd it..

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:37:39 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by Immer:

And no, there is no "I need the shard"... because in MoP chanters can "up-convert" the mats.

Yep thats just crap, you can now up and down convert.
and you can buy shards for SoH.

though I've finally run out and want some for my sha crystal CD, but oh well I can get Sha crystals from LFR now. and I have about 22 so when I get an enchant that uses them I hope to have enough to be helpful.

BTW are we going to farm the hallows end boss?

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:33:49 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by Jobbie:

I love running as a freshly dinged 90, you are not dreading that drop you need for your perfect 463 and you are on your 20th run, anything that drops is an upgrade.

Just awesome.

Ya I just don't like the ones that curse you out for winning.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:32:52 EDT

Jobbie posted : Now that is a douchebag, needing on stuff you can't even use is way out of line.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:29:56 EDT

Immer posted : I'd have put in a ticket and screen cap the conversation for good measure.

still put in a ticket.

the loot is still wonky. Sometimes whoever loots the boss (to start the rolls) just gets the item... no rolls. Is that what happened?

And no, there is no "I need the shard"... because in MoP chanters can "up-convert" the mats.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:26:49 EDT

djlar posted : Just last night I dinged 90 on my Shaman, elemental..

Hit the heroics right away, first 2 were the scarlett ones, got a shield and some bracers from those 2..

Third group it was Scholomance, everything went normal, no drops until the last boss, mail int cirt haste gloves, somehow the LOCK was able to roll need and won them, I ask him to trade them please, he says he needs shards, I told him I really need them can you please pass them over? his response was: "look at this" douche creates shard on log, then he bails

1. Why a cloth wearer was able to roll need on mail gear?
2. I wish that douchebag was on my realm to burn his arse

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:09:34 EDT

Jobbie posted : I love running as a freshly dinged 90, you are not dreading that drop you need for your perfect 463 and you are on your 20th run, anything that drops is an upgrade.

Just awesome.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:06:53 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Wow, Guess the dbags are still around and in force.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:03:12 EDT

cymraeg posted : muahahahahahaa

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:59:11 EDT

Jobbie posted : It was really funny, he had 420 legs, and I told him that there are 458 mail legs from JP, no reason to wear that crap and pray to the RNG gods for a drop.

His answer: "I DON'T NEED TO SPEND MY JP's ON STUFF THAT DROPS FOR FREE LIKE NOW YOU $"#%#$&#%$&#".

My response: "I am so sorry for your loss better save those JPs for next tier right??"
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:55:02 EDT

cymraeg posted : even that is understandable, mail is the primary thing no matter what is on it,save int mail that is another story, shaman and hunter should be rolling on it
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:51:54 EDT

Jobbie posted : I was healing as resto, the thing is that there is no asshattery going on, heroics are the way to gear up both of your main specs (you only get two), there is no MS and OS in there specially when queueing solo, when I tank I fully expect those plater weares to roll on tank gear.

Guild > Pugs
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:50:19 EDT

Nick D posted :

said by Endbringer:

Siege of Niuzao

any other tanks have issues on the trash in this heroic???

Didn't see an answer to this yet.

There are two types of adds in those packs:
1. Resin dudes. They encase a random player in resin, and drop that giant shell which causes them to take no damage. Interrupt liberally, and drag them out of the shell.

2. Big warrior dudes. They random charge people. Nothing you can do about that.

Suspecting it was either you getting encased in resin early (they cast it on the pull), and/or you didn't know about the random charge.

PS Disrupting Shout and Shockwave? Nuthin' castin' nuthin' ever.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:49:29 EDT

McBrain posted : Yeah, if I'm solo in a heroic and the dice is clickable, I click it...My logic is this: If I don't, some other asshole will. So it's either be righteous and receive nothing, or join the asshattery and get loot to vendor.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:47:45 EDT

cymraeg posted : what were you on, enh shammy? if so then fuck him. hell even if you were ele.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:47:23 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Guild groups Rock Am I right?

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:44:45 EDT

Jobbie posted : This morning had an interesting convo with a hunter on a heroic run, agi mail legs drop and I roll and won, so I was automatically labeled as a "scum ninja looter" by him, and I just told them that I won it on a fair roll, It got so bad I had to leave the instance.

Unless I am in a guild run, if an upgrade for any of my main specs drops I roll need hoping I get it, if not I just keep queueing.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:34:29 EDT

Immer posted : lol.. I saw "3 tanks" and instantly thought Sha of Anger, lol... I suck.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:33:37 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by Immer:

You guys are talking about different Sha's. Jobbie is talking about the Sha of Doubt (dungeon boss), and Cymraeg is talking about Sha of Anger (world boss).

From the dispells and such it looks like cym is talking about the dungeon boss, he mentioned going through several tanks due to wipes though)

quote:
the priest wasnt dispelling the nothingness debuff

I don't know if anger has that debuff or not but I know doubt does.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:32:10 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Easiest is just stack on boss then they'll all come to one spot.

Seemed like the logical strat when we first did it on launch day.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:31:35 EDT

Jobbie posted : You can aggro them but they won't target you they will stay on their respective parent, that phase is a dps/healer phase not a tank one. Everybody needs to bring the stuff to the middle for aoe and healer just needs to be able to keep all alive.
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Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:30:49 EDT

Immer posted : You guys are talking about different Sha's. Jobbie is talking about the Sha of Doubt (dungeon boss), and Cymraeg is talking about Sha of Anger (world boss).

edit: or am I the one who isn't tracking?

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:28:35 EDT

cymraeg posted : umm i could aggro them, i would grab the healers every time, cause he was wasting mana on killing his.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:24:25 EDT

Jobbie posted :

said by cymraeg:

agreed dark, all 3 tanks were telling everyone to down their own shade, i kept telling the tanks to aggro them all together so we could aoe them down fast, of course on the final attempt which we killed the sha that was what happened, the dk and myself that were pulling 16k each could down all of them faster.

The shadows don't have a threat table they fixate on their respective target, that is why they all need to bring to the middle for aoe.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:19:25 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Ya as a fire mage there's almost always some splash AOE.
then if they're stacked I'll pop an AoE and those shades don't last long. (also dragon's breath if I'm in position to get them all in it.)

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:07:50 EDT

cymraeg posted : agreed dark, all 3 tanks were telling everyone to down their own shade, i kept telling the tanks to aggro them all together so we could aoe them down fast, of course on the final attempt which we killed the sha that was what happened, the dk and myself that were pulling 16k each could down all of them faster.
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Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:01:53 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Well in the doubt phase (guessing that's the add phase) all should stack up in the boss, for AoE splash damage and healing.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:58:40 EDT

cymraeg posted : the sha fight has a ton of melee during the doubt phase, the priest wasnt dispelling the nothingness debuff, the tank kept argueing with me about it too, but w/e. i thought vengeance was instant to 2% of the hit dealt, even if he only had aggro of 3 of the shades thats what 6k extra ap, i could be wrong. guess i need to do some more tanking to understand what the hell.
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:51:22 EDT

Immer posted : pally tank damage output is still low. As for the warrior, if he wasn't tanking a bunch of melee adds... then I can see having low dmg due to slow vengeance building.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:48:23 EDT

clawfury posted : I don't know, cy. I've levelled only my DK - and I usually topped the charts in dungeons (from 85 on), even starting heroics (unless Muzzle was along). Once dps got more gear I fell behind in heroics, but it took at least a week. i have no clue why tanks would be that low.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:43:11 EDT

cymraeg posted : ok not heroic related but dungeoning in general, last night, i spent 45 min wiping to the sha in jade serpent reg, the tanks yes there were 3 we went through, were barely pulling 11k , i havent tanked in probably a good 8 mos. but everything that i have read says that they should be doing more than me in lower gear not the opposite, granted i was on my ele but still i should not have been a good 5k higher than 2 pally tanks and a warrior. any knowledge about early Mist tanking gear to explain why this was i would appreciate, thanks.
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:43:49 EDT

s1deout posted : Yea I hit 461 ilvl and I am now doing 10K HPS solid in 5mans for the most part.

It makes it easier on an undergeared healer.

My pally tank , who was my cata main , is still level 87.
I dinged my warrior to 90 because it was my JC toon. Haven't tanked a heroic on him yet.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:39:06 EDT

clawfury posted : JB, I haven't healed this xpac, so I can't really comment with any authority - but so far on my blood DK, I've had healers (almost every run) telling me to pull more, more - I'm bored, you don't take any healing. I'm ilvl 461 now - but this was happening at 445+.

EDIT: A lot of those healers were mistweavers, though, thinking back on it.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:35:41 EDT

Endbringer posted : Siege of Niuzao

any other tanks have issues on the trash in this heroic???

im not geared all the best but was able to do 6 of the heroics with no problems at all but this one...wow...just couldnt hold agroo on the begining trash...twice

i felt like the first time my dps was just to well geared but for it to happen twice i thought i would ask the community if this one was extra hard for some reason

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:55:57 EDT

stonhinge posted : Indeed, my monk is actually a draenei. The only problem is, you have to actually target the statue in order to AoE taunt. But, it can be across the room when you do so, so if you know a group of adds you need to pick up are going to show up someplace, you can put the statue there ahead of time. However, your healers would probably appreciate the statue being somewhere close enough to the reast of your party/raid so that they get bubbles.
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Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:31:12 EDT

cymraeg posted : swing and a miss

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:30:33 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Monks don't have to be bears.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:02:50 EDT

Thaler posted : They're bears. They ain't gotta explain shit.

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:49:27 EDT

Threatco posted : Monks have an AoE taunt? Bears lost theirs. Where is the logic?

Re: [MoP] New heroics - my first experiences

Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:47:20 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Its always been like that, a full pre-made doesn't get it's loot rules auto changed to need before greed.