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John Galt
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Re: Why only 1 ground terminal and 2 hot/neutral on receptacles?

The 'proper way' is to pigtail all conductors prior to connection to the device.

In my jurisdiction that is mandatory, even though the Code requires it only on MWBCs.


alkizmo

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Pierrefonds, QC
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said by John Galt:

The 'proper way' is to pigtail all conductors prior to connection to the device.

In my jurisdiction that is mandatory, even though the Code requires it only on MWBCs.

I don't deny the advantage of pigtailing. I'll give it a shot, see if I can tolerate the extra carpal tunnel.

Out of curiosity, what does your jurisdiction say about connecting receptacles downstream of a GFCI? Can't pigtail the load side of a GFCI right?

Speedy Petey

join:2008-01-19
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said by John Galt:

The 'proper way' is to pigtail all conductors prior to connection to the device.

Sorry, but this is NOT the "proper" way. It is one way.

said by John Galt:

In my jurisdiction that is mandatory, even though the Code requires it only on MWBCs.

Is this in writing somewhere? Or do they just like to see it?


alkizmo

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Pierrefonds, QC
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said by Speedy Petey:

Sorry, but this is NOT the "proper" way. It is one way.

What is the "proper" way? Or were you just saying that there is no one "proper" way?

Zach1
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NW Minnesota

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said by alkizmo:

said by Speedy Petey:

Sorry, but this is NOT the "proper" way. It is one way.

What is the "proper" way? Or were you just saying that there is no one "proper" way?

If the circuit in question is NOT a MWBC, either feeding through the device and pig-tailing is generally acceptable. Some AHJ's require and some ECs prefer to pig-tail. For MWBCs, feeding through the device isn't allowed on the grounded conductors. Obviously, in the case of GFCI receptacles, you have no choice but to feed through if you are also protecting loads down-stream.

Edit to add:

300.13 Mechanical and Electrical Continuity - Conductors

(B) Device Removal. In multiwire branch circuits, the continuity of a grounded conductor shall not depend on device connections such as lampholders, receptacles, and so forth, where the removal of such devices would interrupt the continuity.

I always tail where possible.
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Zach


Jack_in_VA
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said by Zach1:

said by alkizmo:

said by Speedy Petey:

Sorry, but this is NOT the "proper" way. It is one way.

What is the "proper" way? Or were you just saying that there is no one "proper" way?

If the circuit in question is NOT a MWBC, either feeding through the device and pig-tailing is generally acceptable. Some AHJ's require and some ECs prefer to pig-tail. For MWBCs, feeding through the device isn't allowed. Obviously, in the case of GFCI receptacles, you have no choice but to feed through if you are also protecting loads down-stream.

They don't have to be pigtailed on non MWBC circuits but:

the neutrals must be pigtailed on MWBC installation.

300.13 Mechanical and Electrical Continuity — Conductors
(B) Device Removal In multiwire branch circuits, the continuity of a grounded conductor shall not depend on device connections such as lampholders, receptacles, and so forth, where the removal of such devices would interrupt the continuity.

Losing a neutral on a MWBC

Zach1
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said by Jack_in_VA:

They don't have to be pigtailed on non MWBC circuits but:

the neutrals must be pigtailed on MWBC installation.

300.13 Mechanical and Electrical Continuity — Conductors
(B) Device Removal In multiwire branch circuits, the continuity of a grounded conductor shall not depend on device connections such as lampholders, receptacles, and so forth, where the removal of such devices would interrupt the continuity.

Posts and edits must have crossed. Since I don't usually feed-through, I had to find the text.
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Zach


Jack_in_VA
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I was doing an edit sorry

bigjoesmith

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I love that power point!

MaynardKrebs
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said by alkizmo:

said by Speedy Petey:

Sorry, but this is NOT the "proper" way. It is one way.

What is the "proper" way? Or were you just saying that there is no one "proper" way?

The 'proper' way is whatever code says in your jurisdiction. Canadian & US electrical codes differ in some areas of practice.