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reply to Goober
Way Kool-Aider!

I prefer my Kool-Aid with Splenda!

reply to fcisler
I wasn't suggesting/hoping Apple would make a FW-Lightning cable but I was pointing out that it was a technical possibility.

USB on the go could be very useful. Hooking up printers, cameras, etc. would all be possible.

Of course money plays a huge role - but this level of control also ensures Apple can maintain quality in the 3rd party accessories available.

I think you Android people are just upset that no one makes really high end accessories just for your devices and with Lightning that trend will continue
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reply to skeechan
I disagree. I honestly feel that Apple has that "elitist" crowd mentality going for it.

As in "Every Apple makes is the Best (Irregardless of fact), and I only want the best: I buy Apple".

IE it's as much a social status symbol effect as anything related to the actual products.

"I have Apple: I am the Best." mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I think Apple makes great products that are slick looking and work well... but the actual Apple Corporation acts like douchebags and rips off their users at will.

I'm not the one who has to always run out and get every new iAnything, but I know several people who do just that, irregardless of price.
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reply to Count Zero
Because we want to pay more for the word "Lightning"? But you have a point there. Why pay $1.25 shipped for a microUSB cable when I can pay $25 for something called Lightning!

It just somehow rolls off the tongue so well. It reminds me of this commercial.

Well if you enjoy plugging a $1.25 shipped MicroUSB cable into a piece of shit phone that's fine.

I'll buy a few lightning cables now and will use them for the next 5-10 years since Tim Cook has publicly stated that Lightning will be a long-term interface for Apple going forwards.

And the fact remains: At least people can buy "Made for iPhone" devices unlike any android phone I've ever seen.

You see anything like this for ANY droid out there? »www.bose.com/controller?url=/sho···ndex.jsp

reply to KrK
There is definitely a status symbol to Apple products but their customer satisfaction simply cannot be merely due to that factor alone - it would be a gross oversimplification.

Case in point: I've had 3 friends buy Android based tablets after I couldn't convince them an iPad was worth it (2 Galxy Tabs and 1 Sony thing) - they all returned their Android tablets and bought an iPad within a month because the other tablets just weren't as good. They all love their iPads now and highly recommend them to other people looking for tablets - but clearly getting one as a status symbol was not the biggest factor to them.

My mother is computer illiterate (she still has an AOL.com email address) and would buy whatever the cheapest computer is for the longest time - but once I got her setup with a Mac mini (several years ago) she hasn't mentioned buying a Dell or HP or some other Windows based computer since. I've even heard her tell her friends "Oh you should just get a Mac, it just works".

People like Apple's products because they're well designed, they are typically very high quality and even just their appearance in a room is pleasing which really can affect people's perception of their devices. That's why we finally sell Dell, Samsung and others paying attention to the aesthetics of their products (though still not as much as Apple does).
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reply to Count Zero
10 years - 10 microUSB cales - $12.50
10 years - 1 Lightning cable - $25

But, if I understand correctly, you enjoy plugging cables into phones. For you then, Lightning is the way to go. Welcome to the distortion field!
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reply to Count Zero
Weird. My dad looks at my sons' Transformer Prime and Galaxy Tabs and makes comments about how he likes those and the stuff they can do that he can't. He hates iTunes.

It only makes sense that many prefer non-Apple stuff. After all, 49% of tablet users can't be wrong.
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reply to Goober
Actuallly since the iPhone comes with 1 - and every future iPad/iPhone that I buy will come with one too I probably won't have to spend any additional for a single other Lightning cable for the next 10yrs anyways as I've already bought a few extras.

But I guess you just like using devices without any 3rd party accessories available

reply to Goober
49%?
»www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/ipa···2q-2012/

Try: A fragmented portion of the market driven mainly by fad products like the Kindle Fire.
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reply to Goober
btw - what can a galaxy tab or transformer prime do that an iPad cannot? I mean aside form downloading porn apps.

reply to Count Zero
I have an Asus Android tablet. I think it's great - but I think I am more suited for an iPad. Should have bought the iPad from the start.

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reply to Count Zero
It isn't. Apple makes slick products that work well. They also are highly standardized and designed to be simple--- so you learn how to do something, and it remains constant and works.

People naturally contrast Apple products to Android products because that's the way it exists in the marketplace... but we have to realize that that market isn't anything like the Apple one company-makes-all. It's hundreds of products, many very different in usage, quality, price, and build. The devices are often customized and skinned by the manufacturers and vary in usage and learning curve.

I've used a cheap phone. For the price, I felt it was good value, but it was clearly slow and laggy and a compromise.

I like my GS3. It's a great phone, slick, powerful and fast... I like the large screen due to my big fingers.... messaging on a small phone was a chore.

I also have custom ROMs I use on the phone and I love it's interoperability with my PC. I understand that all this customization is not for everyone, it's extra effort....

I do understand the appeal of the Apple devices. I think they are quality devices that are generally well designed and have a good user experience so I see why they are popular with the general public....

... having said that I believe things like the lightning are examples of milking the public, and I know people who buy the latest Apple product every time they are released.... irregardless of cost or need. I believe this behavior is clearly the status and social aspect in display.

I guess in summation I would say I believe Apple products are good, but consistently overpriced and deliberately lacking key technological features for purely control reasons.... and they have many extremely vocal fans who trumpet constantly about their personal superiority for using Apple.

You have to admire their success in the market, no doubt. Their corporate attitude, however.... no thanks.
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reply to Goober
So widgets.....
Everything else you mentioned is trivial or actually exists on the iPad in some fashion.

reply to EdmundGerber
Thank goodness people with your lack of insight don't run Apple.