 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to ekster
Re: [game] Crazy Game - The Battle for Demacia said by ekster:I don't think you can say anything has precedence over anything.
It's circular.
Blocks can't have precedence over switches because if switcher switches player A and B, and blocker switcher, then switcher is blocked and cannot switch (which is fine.) But if the blocker blocks player A, and it takes precedence to the switcher, then player A remains blocked (not fine!)
It should be more of finding the unaffected players, perform their actions first, and from there, deal with the rest. Precedence should never be set in stone. I think that's Apples and Oranges.
Scenario 1: Action: Blocker blocks Switcher Net effect: Switcher can't switch and no one else is modifying Switcher so no one is switched.
Scenario 2: Action: Blocker blocks player A Action: Switcher swaps Player A and Player B Net effect: Blocker blocks Player B.
We're discussing precedence of actions occurring to the same person. In which case swap > kill = block > investigation; save > kill
Why kill = block? They aren't mutually exclusive events. You can be both blocked and killed and each action doesn't affect the other. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | reply to ekster Oh well, that just brought end to the possessor role in my book maybe it should have changed to let town stay in fear from the role. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword. |
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 GoggalorPsychonautPremium join:2009-06-09 Your Mind! kudos:1 | reply to Antonica said by Antonica:You do realize, even being drug out (which EVERY game does at some point, some more than others).... those 3 people were town? If you would have pushed for them, even being inactive, you would have hurt the town and could have lost the game?
The point of the game is to win, not to make it go fast. If you want a fast game (and believe me, I was the only mod who would do timed games because I hated how long they took :P), then you can ask for someone to host a timed game or host one yourself to try it out. Well, the point for me this game was to hurt the town, though.  -- From Psychonauts - Lungfish Civilian: (describing Goggalor) He's impervious to bullets! ... and love! -- |
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 GoggalorPsychonautPremium join:2009-06-09 Your Mind! kudos:1 | reply to Jobbie said by Jobbie:Oh well, that just brought end to the possessor role in my book maybe it should have changed to let town stay in fear from the role. Or just make it a one-time only ability. I think it has its uses. |
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 | reply to Jobbie said by Jobbie:Oh well, that just brought end to the possessor role in my book maybe it should have changed to let town stay in fear from the role. yeah... flavor should never elude to anything game related...
I know arch before has almost done things like that, but it was 100% pure flavor and even as a mod he had to come in the game and post that the flavor was just that, flavor. No hints etc should be in flavor. -- »Re: [game] Crazy Game - The Resurrection - Day 2 Corrupt Politician - tmodelt You may privately message the rest of the mafia: ekster, Rook008 & Kristopher. You win with the mafia. |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | reply to Goggalor said by Goggalor:said by Jobbie:Oh well, that just brought end to the possessor role in my book maybe it should have changed to let town stay in fear from the role. Or just make it a one-time only ability. I think it has its uses. There are other kinds of possesor in the roles like the Masons used as a third party "faction" that possess a townie and die if they try to posess mafia.
It is pretty cool.. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | Oh and Snatcher and Roleblocker ARE DIFFERENT ROLES!!!!!!!!!
Roleblocker specifies a night time ability, and snatcher does not specify a time, which implies that the mod could make it a daytime or entire cycle (1 night, 1 day) role as well, such as preventing the person from voting or being lynched. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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 KristopherI got a 4Premium join:2002-10-11 Tyrinaria kudos:4 | reply to Antonica said by Antonica:yeah... flavor should never elude to anything game related... allude
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | reply to Krisnatharok said by Krisnatharok:Oh and Snatcher and Roleblocker ARE DIFFERENT ROLES!!!!!!!!! They are not. The snatcher is a town roleblocker. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword. |
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 KristopherI got a 4Premium join:2002-10-11 Tyrinaria kudos:4 | reply to Krisnatharok I laughed so hard at Portus Dwight picure. But I would consider the snatcher a roleblocker. Why have both on town side in the same game? -- Play DSLr Mafia: »Pub Games |
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| said by Kristopher:I laughed so hard at Portus Dwight picure. But I would consider the snatcher a roleblocker. Why have both on town side in the same game? To fuck with the townies.  |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | reply to ekster said by ekster:I think they mean about the part where it was hinted that Jim died because he tried to possess Kristopher. It kind of made things a bit easier instead of guessing why he was killed. Yeah I agree and I will adjust for future games, still it was not game changer in my opinion. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword. |
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 | reply to Jobbie said by Jobbie:said by Krisnatharok:Oh and Snatcher and Roleblocker ARE DIFFERENT ROLES!!!!!!!!! They are not. The snatcher is a town roleblocker. Actually that just proves KrisN right. One is a town role, one is a mafia role :P.
Yes both are BLOCKERS. but One is town, and one is Mafia :P. -- »Re: [game] Crazy Game - The Resurrection - Day 2 Corrupt Politician - tmodelt You may privately message the rest of the mafia: ekster, Rook008 & Kristopher. You win with the mafia. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to Kristopher You guys fail at attention to detail.
Notice both of these are separate entries under "Town-aligned roles":
Roleblocker/Saboteur - You may choose to block someone at night, preventing them from making a night choice.
Snatcher - Captures a player and blocks them from performing any actions. If the snatched player is targeted, there is a 50% chance that the Snatcher is hit instead.
Not only is the snatcher risking himself when he blocks someone, but he is not limited to acting at night. IE a snatched player is lynched, the snatcher has a 50% chance of dying. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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 | reply to Kristopher f u. Not my fault dslreports doesn't spell check :P |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to Antonica said by Krisnatharok:Notice both of these are separate entries under "Town-aligned roles": Mafia have their own roleblocker--it's actually entered twice under Mafia-aligned roles:
Roleblocker - May block one player’s action each night. Works within the mafia. Mafia Roleblocker - You may choose to block someone at night, preventing them from making a night action. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | Both of you are going in circles, both roles are about blocking somebody to make an action meaning roleblocker. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword. |
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 eksterHi there. join:2010-07-16 Lachine, QC kudos:1 | All that stuff is nonsense anyway. Mod makes whatever roles he wants in a CG, so it's moot on what the list says. It's all for reference only.  |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1 | Exactly |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7 | reply to ekster said by ekster:All that stuff is nonsense anyway. Mod makes whatever roles he wants in a CG, so it's moot on what the list says. It's all for reference only.  Exactly. Town won for the wrong reason ("there CAN'T be two blockers!").
Ima mod a game and punish people for that. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening. |
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