 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to David
Re: Fair warning! 3rd party purchase of U-verse IPDSLAM modem Appreciate the information, as now I'll know why my modem might not work next week. 
Still wish AT&T would be more accepting of the third-party market. Not only does it save the customer some money (making them happier), it's also less wasteful. Tons of AT&T modems are sitting around in closets unused because they try to force brand new equipment on everyone. -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 brg join:2001-01-03 Chicago, IL kudos:1 | reply to David Folks, David did us all a big favor posting relevant information. Don't shoot the messenger. And don't try to pin him down on -- or pin on him -- corporate decisions that he had nothing to do with... |
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| said by brg:Folks, David did us all a big favor posting relevant information. Don't shoot the messenger. And don't try to pin him down on -- or pin on him -- corporate decisions that he had nothing to do with...  -- We can never have enough of nature. We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander. |
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| reply to brg said by brg:Folks, David did us all a big favor posting relevant information. Don't shoot the messenger. And don't try to pin him down on -- or pin on him -- corporate decisions that he had nothing to do with... Agreed.
David is a great help to a many people |
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 ipman join:2010-08-31 San Jose, CA | reply to David any ideas when does the NEW certificate expires? I guess the modem was designed by Mayans? |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to David Well crap. Just got my modem and it has 7.8.7r9.
If it's just a matter of new firmware, why can't AT&T post the firmware file for 7.8.7r27 so we can connect? Does anybody know where to get the firmware? -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 | said by Thinkdiff:Well crap. Just got my modem and it has 7.8.7r9.
If it's just a matter of new firmware, why can't AT&T post the firmware file for 7.8.7r27 so we can connect? Does anybody know where to get the firmware? Rethink possible.
They could have just posted it online for download, but then they wouldn't be the most anti consumer obsolete relic of a monopoly would they |
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 | reply to David Just to clear the mud in my mind am I correct that if I were to get a 2210-02-1ATT with firmware version 7.8.7r27 I would be able to replace my NVG510 and use my old router?
Would it be plug and play or will it require re authorization or something?
As others have said thanks for your info. and help. |
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| said by DesertRats:Just to clear the mud in my mind am I correct that if I were to get a 2210-02-1ATT with firmware version 7.8.7r27 I would be able to replace my NVG510 and use my old router?
Would it be plug and play or will it require re authorization or something?
As others have said thanks for your info. and help. If it has the current firmware, it would work to replace an NVG510. It would be plug and play. As long as it is a good modem, it should work
No promises or warranties though on equipment acquired from sources other than from AT&T |
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 | there has to be a way to get this firmware somehow? like the 2wire 2700 i had, took me a wile to find it but got it |
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| said by alex14464:there has to be a way to get this firmware somehow? like the 2wire 2700 i had, took me a wile to find it but got it I agree, there has to be a way to get it.
Is it possible to rip it out of a current updated 2210? |
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 | said by ILpt4U:said by alex14464:there has to be a way to get this firmware somehow? like the 2wire 2700 i had, took me a wile to find it but got it I agree, there has to be a way to get it. Is it possible to rip it out of a current updated 2210? Generally dumping firmware on modems is no easy task. Usually need an exploit, so I would say unlikely. |
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| Next question then:
David notes that the firmware is still being pushed to active devices on the network that have the old firmware (key word: devices already active)
That says to me that somewhere on an AT&T server that firmware is sitting there to download...
That firmware has to have a location... a URL, an IP, something... |
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 | reply to David me thinks it would be easier to put an non updated model live with a packet trapper in the middle ( any linux box with two ethernet ports should be apt )
Should be able to isolate the file that way.
The fact that you have to do that is ridiculous. |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to ILpt4U Obviously, AT&T could just release the firmware update. But they won't because they want that $100 modem fee and don't care about screwing over the customer.
I'm debating whether or not to dump the contents of the memory chip in the modem and try to locate the certificate. I suppose I'd need an updated 2210 to extract the correct cert (or maybe I can get it from the NVG510 they're sending me). -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to DataRiker said by DataRiker:me thinks it would be easier to put an non updated model live with a packet trapper in the middle ( any linux box with two ethernet ports should be apt )
Should be able to isolate the file that way.
The fact that you have to do that is ridiculous. The issue is you'd have to sniff the DSL packets/frames (which are presumably encrypted, causing this problem in the first place) because you won't see the activity on the LAN side of the modem. -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 | Yes your right the wan traffic would be encrypted certainly.
I didn't think it through |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY kudos:6 | reply to David Not that it needs any more confirmation, but my DSL was activated today and, as expected, the 2210 doesn't work. Fails at authentication.
Still not sure how much effort I want to put into fixing this. Might just purchase a NVG510 off eBay for now until I have more time.
Certainly doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth as a new customer, not that I liked AT&T much to begin with. -- University of Southern California - Fight On! |
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 | reply to Thinkdiff Hey man, you're ic Cali, right?? Simply find a forum over at UCal/Berkeley and talk to some linux/unix geeks.. .. .. problem solved. someone over there will at least be able to point you to how to access/program the darn thing from command line; if you're so inclined. take care. Have A Healthy, Prosperous Day! ---out here.. .. .. ---10th SFG(A) --> 'kill 'em all....let god sort 'em out!" |
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 | said by life :Hey man, you're ic Cali, right?? Simply find a forum over at UCal/Berkeley and talk to some linux/unix geeks.. .. .. problem solved. someone over there will at least be able to point you to how to access/program the darn thing from command line; if you're so inclined. take care. Have A Healthy, Prosperous Day! ---out here.. .. .. ---10th SFG(A) --> 'kill 'em all....let god sort 'em out!" No.
If it were just a matter of linux I could certainly help you out. Most modems have the firmware tightly locked.
Although I don't own nor have ever used this modem, so I could be wrong. |
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