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Spike
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join:2008-05-16
Toronto, ON
reply to DKS

Re: DTV illegal in Canada? What is the legal justification?

said by DKS:

Yes, it is illegal. The silliest argument is "Everybody does it".

Too bad its fact. (Much to your dismay, because everyone should be obeying laws that are there to protect business models and nothing more)

Also, "Limited in distribution" includes the whole GTA, I wouldn't call that "limited" by any means.

MaynardKrebs
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said by Spike:

"Limited in distribution" includes the whole GTA, I wouldn't call that "limited" by any means.

The GTA is just a tiny part of Canada.
Area of GTA ~ 7,124 sq. km »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area
Area of Canada ~ 9,985,000 sq. km »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
GTA comprises about 0.07% of Canada by area

GTA population is about 6MM »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area
Canada population close to 35MM »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
GTA comprises about 17% of Canada's population

Either way, it's pretty limited.
A 17% shareholding might get you 1 or 2 seats on a Board of Directors consisting of 10-12 members. Hardly significant.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to Spike
said by Spike:

said by DKS:

Yes, it is illegal. The silliest argument is "Everybody does it".

Too bad its fact. (Much to your dismay, because everyone should be obeying laws that are there to protect business models and nothing more)

Don't know much about ethics, do you?

Also, "Limited in distribution" includes the whole GTA, I wouldn't call that "limited" by any means.

Compared to the rest of Canada, it is.
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Ian
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reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:

GTA comprises about 17% of Canada's population

And the other 83% also lives pretty close to the US border, for the most part.


Spike
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Toronto, ON
reply to DKS
said by DKS:

Don't know much about ethics, do you?

Ethics also works both ways, and as long as its all one-sided against the public, its fair-game.

The TPP for example also wants to remove cancon requirements.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to Ian
said by Ian:

said by MaynardKrebs:

GTA comprises about 17% of Canada's population

And the other 83% also lives pretty close to the US border, for the most part.

But largely out of signal range of US TV. That's why cable TV became so popular after antennas. The HDTV revolution has brought it full circle.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to Spike
said by Spike:

said by DKS:

Don't know much about ethics, do you?

Ethics also works both ways, and as long as its all one-sided against the public, its fair-game.

The TPP for example also wants to remove cancon requirements.

What is "against the public"? It is a foundationally capitalistic business model based on paying for distribution.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


Spike
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join:2008-05-16
Toronto, ON
said by DKS:

What is "against the public"? It is a foundationally capitalistic business model based on paying for distribution.

Okay, so American DTV on Canadian soil is illegal and can throw you in jail,
yet at the same time the user can simply use P2P and get the same (and more) content (all commercial-free and time-shifted), and fall under civil reaching laws rather than criminal.

Yes, makes sense to me too.

EDIT: Yes, I know in the P2P case the incumbents still get to pilfer you on internet costs.


Ian
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ON
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reply to DKS
said by DKS:

What is "against the public"? It is a foundationally capitalistic business model based on paying for distribution.

Actually, the model you're describing is quite far from capitalistic. So the Government of Canada can sell the right to broadcast a signal to me? Says who? At what point did I give that right to them for them to re-sell it? Did they buy the right from me before re-selling it? If so, I'm still waiting for my cut.

Strictly capitalistic would be for anyone that can afford to launch a satellite to compete with others in getting me to open my chequebook to subscribe to the services of that broadcast. I really don't care if the company is based in the US, Canada, or Latvia.
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olive403

join:2012-10-10
Canada
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·WestNet Wireless
ok so its illegal but dishnetwork still accepts canadian credit cards....... allows SLING access from Canada.

So its illegal for me to be a verizon wireless customer ROAMING in Canada and open up VERIZON TV on my mobile phone?

Verizon EVEN ACCEPTS CANADIANS with CANADIAN CREDIT FILE>....