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Re: [iPhone] Bigger Fail Than Maps ... That was HDMI not microUSB. So far, ALL my microUSB cables work on ALL my microUSB devices.
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kudos:6 | That was my point though. Many cell phones try to stuff many different signals down the microUSB plug. In this case, Samsung changed the way they send video out requiring a $30 adapter.
Lightning isn't just a modified USB connector. It does a lot more.
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| And again, that is for the HDMI output ONLY. If you want to connect your phone to an HD television you need the adapter. The microUSB plug (for charging and data transfer to a computer) is a different connector that has not changed.
If I bought the SIII I wouldn't need to buy an adapter because I don't need my phone hooked to my television. If I bought an iPhone 5 I would need to buy 4 adapters just so I can charge the phone.
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 Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | How would you need to buy 4? 1 comes with the phone, 1 for the car and 1 more for work/travel? For over a year you haven't had to plug the phone into the computer to sync so you don't need one for your desk really... |
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| The only difference I have seen is that lightning is two way while micro usb is one way. Both use the same power and power the same things.
And btw, usb can power monitors and sound. |
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Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | USB can power low resolution, high latency monitors. USB does do sound.
You should read about the Lightning design - it goes a lot further than two-way plugs. 9 dynamically reconfigurable pins gives it a world of expansion - more than MicroUSB has. |
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said by Count Zero:How would you need to buy 4? 1 comes with the phone, 1 for the car and 1 more for work/travel? For over a year you haven't had to plug the phone into the computer to sync so you don't need one for your desk really...
Cords right there. Then add on adapters and it becomes a ridiculous amount of money. |
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said by Count Zero:You should read about the Lightning design - it goes a lot further than two-way plugs. 9 dynamically reconfigurable pins gives it a world of expansion - more than MicroUSB has.
Here is what it gives you the way I see it:
1) Hunting for a proprietary cable when you need to charge your phone and forgot your own charger. At any given time we have at least 50 microUSB cables in the office between employees. While traveling any hotel front desk has a box of chargers that people left behind, your chances are much higher of finding a micro usb than this apple "innovation" if you left your charger at home.
2) You say its a way to do expansion, I see a way to mess with users. They can rearrange 2 pins and make everything on the market obsolete just to force you to buy more iStuff.
3) iPad and iPhone now use different connectors even though the two devices were probably going through design stages at the same time. So Apple can't even standardize their own devices? But if they would have released the new connector with the iPad 3 (or the new iPad or whatever they called it), then iPhone 5 would have had nothing to show as "revolutionary".
Yes Samsung SGSIII (which I don't have and don't like) needs an adapter for HDMI, but the number of people who actually hook up their phones to TVs is fairly small. |
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kudos:3 | Good point about the iPad. If I was to buy an iPad now, I'd have to carry around two sets of cable. Bah.. will wait then on considering purchasing an ipad.
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| said by Rob:Good point about the iPad. If I was to buy an iPad now, I'd have to carry around two sets of cable. Bah.. will wait then on considering purchasing an ipad.
The Ipad 3s? Or the Ipad S?
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kudos:3 | said by elwoodblues:said by Rob:Good point about the iPad. If I was to buy an iPad now, I'd have to carry around two sets of cable. Bah.. will wait then on considering purchasing an ipad.
The Ipad 3s? Or the Ipad S? I'm going to assume the S is the mini? I want the regular iPad. I see a few on the refurbished website (I want one with wireless broadband) that I am considering
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said by Count Zero:How would you need to buy 4? 1 comes with the phone, 1 for the car and 1 more for work/travel? For over a year you haven't had to plug the phone into the computer to sync so you don't need one for your desk really...
I forgot about one coming with the phone so I would still need to buy at least 3. I manually sync and back up everything and the wireless sync crap would be shut off right away. I don't need nor do I want everything from my phone on all my computers and I sure as hell don't want or need to share all my pictures with everyone. I have so many microUSB cables that I have them everywhere. I have one on my nightstand, one at my main home computer, one at my hobby/telescope/armory computer, one In my truck, one in my telescope laptop bag, two 2 at my work computer and one or two in my cable/charge drawer.
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Winston Salem, NC | Ok so you'd buy 3 ($60) and use them the next 5-10 years. The 30-pin cable wound up working out the same way (buy a few extra ones early and all future iDevices come with one so you wind up with extras in the long run). If that $60 is breaking your bank then you've got other problems. |
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| Notwithstanding your Apple apologist stance, going with a worldwide standard makes things a lot easier if/when a person leaves a cable behind (or loses it somewhere) to get a cheap cable anywhere or knowing that there's likely one at whatever destination a person happens to be going. It's really simple common sense.
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Winston Salem, NC | Very true that having a standard is helpful if you forget a cable. But having a proprietary standard isn't always bad if it allows for Apple to ensure the user experience is better by enforcing standards onto the third party community. Plus it keeps Android users from getting access to all the bells and whistles of made for iPhone accessories and that's fine by me  |
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2 edits | Proprietary is only good if it offers more FUNCTIONALITY. Micro USB isn't proprietary and I have no problem getting quality cables.
Meanwhile Apple-proprietary means great vendors like Hypermac getting sued even when they bought official Magsafe devices to cut the ends off for use in their battery products. So now you have to buy the battery and a stupid airline connector or do the soldering yourself.
The rest of that statement is silly. All made for iPod and no one else means is higher cost for those devices. If they have universal connectivity for Android and iPod it means they sell more and thanks to a little thing called economy of scale we get those goodies cheaper. I don't give a piss what Android users buy but the stuff I buy would be better without an Apple tax. |
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Re: [iPhone] Bigger Fail Than Maps ... said by skeechan:Proprietary is only good if it offers more FUNCTIONALITY. Micro USB isn't proprietary and I have no problem getting quality cables.
Meanwhile Apple-proprietary means great vendors like Hypermac getting sued even when they bought official Magsafe devices to cut the ends off for use in their battery products. So now you have to buy the battery and a stupid airline connector or do the soldering yourself.
The rest of that statement is silly. All made for iPod and no one else means is higher cost for those devices. If they have universal connectivity for Android and iPod it means they sell more and thanks to a little thing called economy of scale we get those goodies cheaper. I don't give a piss what Android users buy but the stuff I buy would be better without an Apple tax.
It's the "Instagram Phenomenon". I've never understood that attitude . . .
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Re: [iPhone] Bigger Fail Than Maps ... said by Count Zero:Ok so you'd buy 3 ($60) and use them the next 5-10 years. The 30-pin cable wound up working out the same way (buy a few extra ones early and all future iDevices come with one so you wind up with extras in the long run). If that $60 is breaking your bank then you've got other problems.
No, $60.00 wouldn't break the bank and like I said, "if I were to buy an iphone 5". That won't happen so Apple can change the connector with every version for all I care.
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